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Looks like beefed up Pepsi Can Stove,,,
But has anyone seen one of these in action? Do they have any significant advantage over other designs?
chili36
11:34:36 AM
2/17/04

link
chili36
11:35:08 AM
2/17/04

Father Goose has one of those. I've seen him use it a couple of times. Seems to work pretty good.
bitpusher
11:39:16 AM
2/17/04

My brother owns a specialty metal shop in Ft Lauderdale and the fabricate copper gutters, and roofing.

I asked him to look at the design and give me his input. He saw the pepsi can stove design and was pretty sure he could improve efficiency. I might be going that route pretty quick.

I am thru hiking the OHT next spring and will be packing lite.
chili36
11:44:08 AM
2/17/04

The one they show in the photos doesn't appear to have jets. I thought jets increased the burning efficiency of the alcohol? I can't recall if the one that FG has has jets or not.
bitpusher
11:47:18 AM
2/17/04

Gforce has one and they are everything they say they are.
Nigal
11:51:51 AM
2/17/04

Well hell, I was just in Ocala with gforce and could have seen it then.

Well, I am leaning toward obtaining one, or having one built in the shop at Ft Lauderdale. Surely my brother can knock one one for me.
chili36
11:53:12 AM
2/17/04

And their little fuel bottles are cool too. Well worth the cash. It has a 1 oz. reservoir that you squeeze the bottle and it fills the reservoir. Then you pour the 1 oz. out perfect every time. This help with not having a bunch of extra left over when you're done cooking.

Maybe $5 or $6.
Nigal
11:57:48 AM
2/17/04

No offense, but I'm a trangia guy. I like them better than this model. You can carry the fuel right inside the stove (just be careful not to heat up the rubber O-ring, or it will leak)

Comes with pot and lid (that can double as a frypan), holder, stand and a simer ring...all for under 30.00. Outstanding gear!

http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?productId=4332909&storeId=8000&catalogId=40000008000&langId=-1
laqtis
12:08:06 PM
2/17/04

[Throws up hands!]

Just make a Pepsi stove or buy one off eBay!
StoveStomper
12:30:26 PM
2/17/04

Well, stovestomper, that is where I was heading with this. I mean for $40, I would want this to be much better than pepsi can stove.

Just looking at this point. However, I do think I will have my brother put me one together off of the brasslite design.
chili36
12:37:16 PM
2/17/04

Yeah, I checked out the one gforce has while I was at the Ocala hike. I like the simmer ring and the overall design of the Brasslite.
MDSHiker
12:51:54 PM
2/17/04

chili - MY opinion is if one has the money to burn, a Brasslite is a good but heavy option.

I don't like the pressurized alcohol burners because any fuel savings are negated by the amount of fuel needed to prime them. The figures used to claim great fuel savings rairly include the primeing fuel needed.
The open center Pepsi Stoves are fiddlefree, just pour fuel in and light. K.I.S.S. is the way to go.
StoveStomper
12:54:16 PM
2/17/04

And the great thing about the Trangia is that it's not an afterburner stove - you can actually control the heat and really cook on it as well as just boil water.
ynamiynami
12:54:22 PM
2/17/04

I'm considering the Turbo F for my AT thru. There's two of us and, since alcohol boils slow, I'll have two stoves - a pepsi (of my own design, of course) and maybe a Brasslite. The Brasslite should certainly be more durable, which might be important over 2100 miles. The turbo F is 0.8 oz, including the pot stand, which makes it comparable to a pepsi in weight (maybe even lighter). I just can't decide whether or not to spend the $30.

I don't believe the new brasslites are pressurized. The ones on the website now are a few versions past Father Goose's model. They look to be hollow resevoirs.
MileMonster
1:26:00 PM
2/17/04

Dang MileMonster, you are right.
The new designs are a modified cat can stove type. These stoves are designed for speed.
These look pretty good!
StoveStomper
1:31:40 PM
2/17/04

Chili - Please ignore my comments four or five posts up.
Those comments are for the old design Blasslites.

Note to Self: Read links before stateing opinions. ;-)
StoveStomper
1:44:33 PM
2/17/04

No problem StoveStomper. I have been studying desingns on several models and I am pretty sure I will be going with a Brasslite and a silnylon tarp for my hike next spring.
chili36
1:49:56 PM
2/17/04

Just crawled out of the sack a bit ago...
I have 2 Brasslite stoves, one is the older Duo, which has a priming pan and fuel is added through a small hole in the center which is then covered by a set screw, and the other is the Turbo two, which is the open-top design. Of the two, I like the Duo best. It will bring 16 oz. of 50-degree water to a rolling boil in 5.5 minutes with 1 oz. of fuel. I have not been able to get the Turbo to do that. My Turbo is actually a defunct design as well. I will bring them both to Sipsey, chili, so that you may have a closer look at them.
Father Goose
3:27:50 PM
2/17/04

Thanks, FG.
chili36
3:34:56 PM
2/17/04

chilli
I've got the Turbo II-D model which has significantly changed over the, now discontinued, Turbo II. It weighs 2.5 ozs., will hold up to 2 ozs. of fuel, and the simmer sleeve works very well. No priming is required unless it's really cold . . . and then any alcohol stove will need some type of preheating.

The stove is extremely well made and is now being manufactured overseas by Asian jewelers. So, unless you know someone capable of soldering jewelry, the stove would be hard to replicate . . . without adding additional weight from using excessive solder.

It is an excellent alcohol stove. However, an alcohol stove is only as good as the rest of your cooking system. By that I mean stove, windscreen, heat reflector, and pot. It's just as important to have a windscreen that fits close enough to your pot to trap the heat around the pot, and, yet, not so tight that it will suffocate the flame from the stove. The diameter of the cookpot is important also. The larger the base of the pot, the greater the amount of area for the flame to heat at one time, and the quicker the water will boil.

If you're planning on taking an alcohol stove on an extended trip, take time get to know it first! If you do get one let me know and I'll post some pics of my cooking system to give you ideas.
gforce
6:58:25 PM
2/17/04

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