John Kerry for President!!!!!

“Kerry's tax increases will destroy productivity and send the economy down quick.”

“Would you like fries with that?”

“Thats from the last election Upurs, let's have some new stuff.”

“And for the commie fanatics ----


>Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 23:49:34 -0500
>
>Dear Friends,
>
>I too was sucked in by the Linux Revolution, until I saw what it is
>leading to. I fear that Linux is the most subtle Communist Plot yet.
>Consider the following facts.
>
>[1] Linux was developed in Finland. What country is next to Finland? >Russia!
>[2] Linux is FREE. Sounds like Communism to me!
>[3] What do Comrades wear? Red Hats!
>[4] The Red Chinese have referred to the US as Yellow Dogs.
>[5] Mandrake Linux? What's next, the Batguano distribution?
>[6] The first three letters of Open Source, OPE, are the Recall Code for
>Wing Attack Plan R.
>
>Finally, consider that Linus Torvald's middle name is Benedict. As in
>Arnold.”

“"Kerry's tax increases will destroy productivity and send the economy down quick."
Miss Anne Thrope
08:34:32 PM
04/02/04

This is based on what? Your intuition?”

“Bison! Your Right! How's This?

”

“OK, it has to be representative of Democrats though, make it a screaming donkey baby.”

“Do you have a picture I can borrow?”

“In light of the decisions and actions of the Bush Administration over the last couple of weeks I am sure that the insurgents in Iraq want Bush reelected.

He is doing more to turn the #&%!$es against the coalition and force a fight on two fronts then the enemy is.

Shutting down the newpaper and arresting the aid of Muqtada al-Sadr without grabbing him was a catistrophic strategic error.
Assuming that the civic leaders in Fallujah would speak against the combatants showed a complete misunderstaning of reality. They actually forced the leaders to speak in support of the insurgents.

The approval of the use of violence against the coalition by the splinter #&%!$e group has gone from 12% to 20% in 24 hours and may force the #&%!$e leaders to reccoment taking up arms against the Coalition.

Bush now has to send more troops, which the administration did not want to do, and delay rotation out of some of the troops due to come home.

So on the one hand he is smiling at the cameras telling the public how under control and on schedule Iraq is, while the American death Toll is rising and the military presence has to be increased since the "end of hostilities"

If ever anyone needed motivation to get rid of "Little Napolean Bush", the last week should be all they need.

Bush has proven very capable of ripping defeat from the jaws of victory”

“According to the latest Pew Resaerch poll
http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=210
more people dissaprove of Bush's overall performance than approve(47% to 43%).

He gets low marks for his handling of the economy (53% approve, 39% disapprove) and energy policy (48% disapprove, 29% approve).



Time to start packing George.”

“That's 53% disapprove, 39% approve of his handling of the economy.”

“Adios, Jorge.”

“Kerry has been off the campaign trail for the large part of the last month because of surgury and vacation. Bush has hardly been able to take advantage of it. The so called surge has been relatively small considering he hasn't been really had any competition from Kerry for about 3 weeks now. I think that this is a bad sign for Bush.”

“Please no don't let the Demonrats get power back :)”

“Wow you people really believe this BS.”

“Kerry Inflates Combat Action in 'Meet the Press' Account

In his account to "Tour of Duty" author Douglas Brinkley, Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry described his first encounter with enemy forces in Vietnam as an inconsequential skirmish that "hardly qualified as combat."

But on Sunday's "Meet the Press," Kerry's recollection of the episode was far more dramatic, with the top Democrat saying the confrontation not only was "frightening" but also was probably the worst combat his unit had experienced during the entire war.

Defending himself against charges that he put in for a Purple Heart for a relatively minor flesh wound after the Dec. 2, 1968 skirmish, Kerry told NBC newsman Tim Russert:

"We were in combat. We were in a very, very - probably one of the most frightening - if you ask anybody who was with me, the two guys who were with me, was probably the most frightening night that they had that they were in Vietnam."

But in his account to biograpger Brinkley, Kerry dismissed the altercation as "a minor skirmish."

"It was a half-assed action that hardly qualified as combat," he confessed, in a discrepancy first reported Sunday by FreeRepublic.com.

"I felt terribly seasoned after this minor skirmish," Kerry continued to Brinkley. "But since I couldn't put my finger on what we had really accomplished or on what had happened, it was difficult to feel satisfied."

"Meet the Press" moderator Tim Russert was apparently unaware of the contradiction and did not question Kerry on his newly dramatized account.

Kerry's earlier, much tamer version of his first encounter with the enemy appears on pages 146 and 148 of "Tour of Duty."

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/4/19/11810.shtml”

“So, he wasn't there?

It was HIS experience, he can describe it any way he cares to.”

“So, how does George Bush describe HIS experience?”

“Consistantly.

Funny how Kerry finds himself running for pres and suddenly the action that night was just so over the top. L I A R...”

“They're all freakin' liars, Nigal. You can't have this job and not lie. It seems impossible.


Boy, am I the cynic today or what? :)”

“I'd love to say this is lying, but before I go off the deep end like the libs on this board, I think I'll categorize this as exaggerating for effect.”

“How desperate are you guys to deflect attention from AWOL’s record?”

“Who cares?
Well, I can guess who cares.

And just what has THAT got to do with the man's ability?

I've seen some of Kerry's testimony from '71.
He didn't need no script, unlike our current "president".”

“What’s funny is these are the same guys who (for some reason) shout, “support the troops” whenever someone disagrees with the policies of this pretendident but seem to have no trouble minimizing the heroics of a decorated veteran.

I think all veterans, decorated or not, deserve our gratitude.

Attack his voting record, his appearance or whatever - leave his service alone.”

“YEAH, like violin says, leave 'em alone. After all, character issues don't matter... unless you're running for office as anything other than a democrat.”

“Attack his service, if you'd like.

I like to know who's who.”

“"Attack his voting record, his appearance or whatever - leave his service alone."

It ain't his service record I'm attacking. It's his politisizing and lying about his service that I'm pointing out. Just like when he gets elevated above the every day grunt that paid a much higher price for wounds that made him miss a grand total of, what?, two days service? They are all heros. It's when he makes himself ouit to be a Hero (with a capitol H) that I smell bullshlt.”

“Here is the account of how Kerry earned his first of 3 purple hearts excerpted from Brinkley's book. It sounds pretty frightening to me. I really can't see the contradiction with what he told Russert:



"It was a half-assed action that hardly qualfied as combat, but it was my first, and that made it very exciting," [Kerry said]. "Three of us, two enlisted men and myself, had stayed up all night in a Boston Whaler [a foam-filled-fiberglass boat] patrolling the shore off a Viet Cong-infested peninsula north of Cam Ranh . . . Most of the night had been spent being scared #&%!$less by fisherman whom we would suddenly creep up on in the darkness. Once, one of the sailors was so startled by two men who surprised us as we came around a corner ten yards from the shore that he actually pulled the trigger on his machine gun. Fortunately for the two men, he had forgotten to switch off the safety . . ."

As it turned out, the two men really were just a pair of innocent fisherman who didn't know where one zone began and the other ended. Their papers were perfectly in order, if their night's fishing over. The fear was that they were VC. Allowing them to continue might have compromised the mission. For the next four hours Kerry's Boston Whaler, using paddles, brought boatloads of fisherman they found in sampans, all operating in a curfew zone, back to the Swift. It was tiring work. "We deposited them with the Swift boat that remained out in the deep water to give us cover," Kerry continued. "Then, very early in the morning, around 2:00 or 3:00, while it was still dark, we proceeded up the tiny inlet between the island and the peninsula to the point designated as our objective. The jungle closed in on us on both sides. It was scary as hell. You could hear yourself breathing. We were almost touching the shore. Suddenly, through the magnified moonlight of the infrared 'starlight scope,' I watched, mesmerized, as a group of sampans glided in toward the shore. We had been briefed that this was a favorite crossing area for VC trafficking contraband."

With its motor turned off, Kerry paddled the Boston Whaler out of the inlet into the beginning of the bay. Simultaneously the Vietnamese pulled their sampans up onto the beach and began to unload something; he couldn't tell what, so he decided to illuminate the proceedings with a flare. The entire sky seemed to explode into daylight. The men from the sampans bolted erect, stiff with shock for only an instant before they sprang for cover like a herd of panicked gazelles Kerry had once seen on TV's Wild Kingdom. "We opened fire," he went on. "The light from the flares started to fade, the air was full of explosions. My M-16 jammed, and as I bent down in the boat to grab another gun, a stinging piece of heat socked into my arm and just seemed to burn like hell. By this time one of the sailors had started the engine and we ran by the beach, strafing it. Then it was quiet.

"We stayed quiet and low because we did not want to illuminate ourselves at that point," Kerry explained. "In the dead of night, without any knowledge of what kind of force was there, we were not all about to go crawling on the beach to get our asses shot off. We were unprotected; we didn't have ammunition, we didn't have cover, we just weren't prepared for that . . . So we first shot the sampans so that they were destroyed and whatever was in them was destroyed." Then their cover boat warned of a possible VC ambush in the small channel they had to exit through, and Kerry and company departed the area.
The "stinging piece of heat" Kerry felt in his arm had been caused by a piece of shrapnel, a wound for which he was awarded a Purple Heart. The injury was not serious — Brinkley notes that Kerry went on a regular Swift boat patrol the next day with a bandage on his arm, and the Boston Globe quoted William Schachte, who oversaw the mission and went on to become a rear admiral, as recalling that "It was not a very serious wound at all."”

“Source: http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/service.asp”

“BTW, Nigal, Newsmax isn't the most non-partisan news on the net. You'd have to kind of expect that they're going to attack Kerry.”

“Again, and I dont' know how many times I have and will have to say this:

You can't have it both ways. You cannot attack a person like Kerry on his record and then cry foul when the hammer comes down on Bush.

Remember, the bad thing about this up coming election, is that almost everything you could say about Kerry, you could say about Bush.

I know it's rough to defend a person like Bush when he has so many glarring errors. Kerry has'em too. If this continues, nothing will come out of it than the usual circle jerk bullchit we always get.

Let's bring some meat on this table, not the same left overs. Kerry's record has been explained over and over again. We might have to get to a point where we all might have to LIVE with, and be at pease with, our differences.”

“Snopes, on the other hand is completely unbiased?

I'm not one to take Kerrey's military service lightly. But, I have a real problem, as I've said before, with this behavior after the war. I feel that he pretty much tore up his hero card when he aids the enemy when he gets back.

So I've pretty much decided that the two things sorta even out (I don't really feel that way, but I try to). But I still have a real problem with his voting record, lack of integrity, and inability to decide which side of the issues he wants to be on.

But the really good thing is that I don't have to vote against Kerrey because I get to vote FOR President Bush.”

“Isn't funny how personal character ceased to become an issue for Republicans when Junior began to run for president.”

“"You can't have it both ways. You cannot attack a person like Kerry on his record and then cry foul when the hammer comes down on Bush."

Hey, if you got something to share share it. there are those on both sides that are saying all kinds of things about weather Bush was there or not. Besides, I didn't post the above and then say, "OK guys, let's compare Kerry to Bush.". I posted it as a specific example of how Kerry tries to trump everything up. Now, if ya can't focus that much, try another thread. And how often do I hear the liberals attack Bush but then go ape shlt when Klinton is brought up?

Focus Q. Focus.”

“I just finished reading the transcript and feel pretty comfortable saying that newsmax is spinning.”

“Of course, nigal will say that it's the good kind of spin, though.”

“strat would say that you're full of it......


ATTACKING KERRY'S PATRIOTISM

Two points to be brought up today regarding John sKerry ... the not-yet-crowned Democratic presidential candidate.

First, Kerry is whining that George Bush and Republicans are attacking his patriotism. In the mind of John Kerry asking about his vote against continued funding for our troops, his designation of our troops in Vietnam as "murderers," his call for American troops to be put under UN control when deployed internationally, and his incredible string of votes against the very weapons systems that are being used to defend and protect our country today are attacks on his patriotism. They're not, of course. They're really attacks on his judgment. Kerry is hiding behind the patriotism facade because there's really no other place for him to hide.

This is the same tactic that was tried by Georgia Senator Max Cleland. During his freshman term Cleland quickly fell under the spell of then Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle. Democrats sought to make political gains with the formation of a cabinet-level department of homeland security. In the process of creating the homeland security department Democrats wanted to erase some of the leverage the president had in dealing with government union employees. In effect, the Democrats wanted to make the very people we would be depending on to defend us on our own soil from the threat of Islamic terrorism immune from being fired. Cleland was all-too-easily talked into joining Daschle in this effort, and it cost him. Georgia is not particularly pro-union, and when the voters of Georgia saw that Cleland was putting strengthening government employee union power above the security needs of this nation they reacted ... and threw him out of office. Today those who assailed Cleland for his government union protectionism, and I was one of them, are accused of attacking his patriotism.

The Kerry-Cleland "you're attacking my patriotism" argument might wash with the marginally cogent voters who are prone to vote Democrat, but not with anyone who applies an ounce of rational thought to the issue. Instead of defending his patriotism, Kerry needs to defend his positions. Too bad they're so indefensible.

Secondly, John Kerry is professing to be amazed that George Bush is highlighting the terror threat to the U.S. in this year's election. Actually, I suspect that Kerry is more upset than surprised. Kerry knows for a certainty that if, between now and November, the American people suddenly wake up and recognize the grave threat posed to this country by Islamic fanatics, he will be toast on November 2nd. Voters overwhelmingly give Bush a huge edge when the question is defending America from terrorists. It's no wonder Kerry would rather Bush not bring the issue up at all.

I just can't believe that the people of America have become so enamored of government, so in need of government-provided security, and so blasé about freedom and the threat that this country faces from Islamic terrorism, that they would take the most liberal, big-government loving member of the U.S. Senate, a man who would certainly weaken the sovereignty of our nation, and make him not only the president of the United States, but the Commander in Chief of our armed forces.”

“sKERRY ON MEET THE PRESS

Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Senator John Kerry was on 'Meet the Press' yesterday, and it was quite a show. sKerry set a record for the highest number of idiotic statements made inside of an hour. This guy hasn't changed a bit.

Continuing his trend of attacking the Commander in Chief during a time of war, Kerry lashed out at President Bush over the Iraq issue. He accused Bush of having a "stunningly ineffective" foreign policy and worst of all, he said that the war on terrorism wasn't primarily a military struggle. That's right...Kerry still believes that fighting terrorism is a law enforcement problem. This is almost frightening...apparently he believes that Osama Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda can be fought with lawyers and subpoenas, much the way the Clinton administration did for 8 years, and we all know where that got us. Is he not paying attention to the 9/11 Commission hearings in Washington? Time and time again we are hearing from the FBI and the CIA that they were hamstrung by legal red tape when it came to hunting down terrorists and protecting this nation. What Kerry is saying is that he wants to turn the United States back to sitting ducks, with somehow our safety and security provided by the United Nations. I don't think so.

"Our diplomacy has been about as arrogant and ineffective as anything I've ever seen," Kerry said. "I will not only personally go to the U.N., I will go to other capitals." I guess Kerry forgot that all of that was tried. The United Nations had 12 years, and could not contain Saddam Hussein.

The stakes have never been higher in a presidential election. The safety and security of the United States hangs in the balance during a global war on terror, and this is the best the Democrats can do. How pathetic.”

“"Hey, if you got something to share share it........"




ummmmm, k. Me thoughts I did; have many times past for that matter.


One of my favorite quotes of all time -

Hudson:

I don't know if you've been keepin' up on current events, but we just out asses kicked out there pal!”

“Attack his voting record, his appearance or whatever - leave his service alone."
Violin
02:22:45 PM
04/19/04

But those who were in the National Guard don't count, eh? Nice double standard.”

“Well, there was the normal Texas Air Guard, then there was the unit Junior was in with other political progeny such as Lloyd Benson's sons and John Connally's son... looking for a way to skip out on Vietnam without having to haul ass to Canada.

Ah, Yes... the "Champagne Unit". Tough duty, EH?



"I've been to war. I've raised twins. If I had a choice, I'd rather go to war."

GWB
Houston Chronicle
January 2002



Oops. Sorry George. You didn't go to war and you know it.

What kind of military service is it when you come and go whenever you please? I think that's the 'my daddy has political clout' type service.

You can compare that country club crap to John Kerry's service any which way you like.”

“When Bush I ran for his first term, they marketed him like he had single-handedly won WW II.

That's a little much, but I hope y'all get my point.

It's an ELECTION YEAR!


I wonder if the right is ready to withstand another flailing on Bush II "war record". I'm sure someone around here could bring that dead horse back in here for another kick or four.”

“Oh I'm not so dumb that I don't know the whole world's going to be spinning until November. I'm sure we'll hear a great deal about how Bush43 is winning the war on terror. I just hope when the spinning satops Kerry will be the one looking for work.”

“Welp, I haven't talked to ya in a few, but I last remember you being disenchanted with Bush over the immigration issue, amoung other issues.

Back on the wagon?

I'm not saying it's a bad thing, just trying to keep up on where everyone stands. There seems to be "something in the air", shall I say, that seemed to have happened during my slumber.”

“I really wanted to see the context of what Kerry had said earlier. The couple of sentences newsmax pulled appear to show inconsistency but the fuller account found at snopes shows that there is none. I wish I had access to the book, but I don’t.

Just as a reminder, while Kerry was getting shot at and taking shrapnel wounds, Bush was doing this:

”

“Thank you, Violin!”

“"Isn't funny how personal character ceased to become an issue for Republicans when Junior began to run for president."
Tilt
04:51:54 PM
04/19/04


No the Democrats decided character didn't matter when Clinton was president. Thankfully, President Bush has restored character to the White House.”

“Feels more like a cartoon character in the White House...”

“TB, Yeah, I'm sure you would see it that way,”

“DAMN!!!!

I don't think I've LOL so frickin' hard in a while.

Thanks for the well timed chuckle, NoProb!!”