The Passion

“Stormbringer, you are a doubting Thomas.

This world needs more like you who keep asking why instead of accepting "the word".”

“above.

and I do think that Christians who are...”

“I think it's best to ask "why?" and then accept the word.”

“i still havent seen this movie, so if everyone thinks i have a lot to say now, wait til i get back this evening. me and mum are seeing the 4:20 show

dad wont go. he never talks about it, but im sure hes mad at god for taking his father at an early age.”

“"I think it's best to ask "why?" and then accept the word"

then whats the point of asking "why"?”

“i think we have set a record for this thread. we've had an in-depth discussion and remaind civil for over 20 minutes!”

“Giddy-yap, Strombringer!

You said what I was thinking!”

“The 4:20 show?

That might keep you from getting sick!”

“maybe some day this thread will become holy scripture”

“.....from all the blood and gore.”

“was that a pot reference?”

“I agree Bison. If someone accepts what someone says at face value and enters into something so important that is a weak base for faith. People who answer an impromptu alter call and convert on the spot tend to fall right back into their old lives after a short time…or they end up like Buck and believe whatever is told to him.

Anything that can't stand up to the "Why?" question isn't strong enough to serve you a purpose in life's struggles.”

“thursday nite is taco bell nite at my parents. eat after the show cuz dad has computer class”

“ok, marko, try to finish your thoughts in one post.

im sure nigal would like to point out im one to talk!”

“Stormbringer, yes, that's what the kids tell me.

Tacos before the movie?
You know what they say about a fart in church.
Careful you might get lynched by zealots for desecrating something "holy".

Nigal, very thoughtful!”

“no no no. eating AFTER movie”

“"then whats the point of asking "why"?"

To consider all things before deciding what is truth...

Many people accept something after questioning it, It seems that some people here can't understand that many Christians who accept the Bible as the word of God came to this belief through questioning, not through being told what to believe.”

“I watched a little bit on the History Channel that was on REAL late. Too bad I was completly hammered, but I do remember seeing in the piece that they cam right out, unbiased and everything, that the Jews played a HUGE role in nailing Christ to the cross. I love a piece that has no biased and no "alterier" (sp?) motive, like what I saw. They didn't pull any punches, that was for sure, and told it like it was.

Maybe the peeps out there should take a look at stuff like this that isn't tainted by the church.”

“I've had christians tell me, "But they even took out the part where Piolate tells the Jews that Jesus' blood was on their hands!" when if fact it wasn't taken out but the line simply wasn't subtitled. So it's still in there. LOL!”

“Nigal, you speak Aramaic?”

“that line is not Pilates, it's the people in the crowd who say "Let his blood be on us and on our children."

Matthew Chp. 27 ver. 25”

“Verse 24

"When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but [that] rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed [his] hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye [to it]."”

“Blessed are the cheese makers.”

“I reread the article and you're right Bison, it was 27:25...

"Apparently seeking to curry favor, Gibson announced a few weeks ago that he had cut the scene where a Jewish mob yells for the blood of Jesus to descend on the heads of its children (a scene that occurs in only one of the four contradictory Gospels). Gibson lied. The scene is still there, spoken in Aramaic. Only the English subtitle has been removed."”

“Hmmmmm, too much contradictory stuff in religion for me.”

“That reminds me of "What's Up Tiger Lily?" for some reason.”

“"I think it's best to ask "why?" and then accept the word"

"many Christians who accept the Bible as the word of God came to this belief through questioning, "

if you mean that thru questioning they come to accept the bible as the word of god, then that is fine. however, its not a conclusion you can reason. at best, its circumstantial evidence. ultimately, it has to be taken on faith, which is mutually exclusive from reason. thats the point of faith.”

“who or what was the creepy baby?

the anti-christ?”

“They call him "mini-mel"”

“2 hr torture scene. pointless. i think my biggest problem with the movie is that it starts with the garden of gethsemane. its from that point forward christ is no longer a pro-active figure, and just someone who is acted upon, rather than acts. from a literary or artistic pov, thats not a very strong protagonist. more time should have been invested in building sympathy for christ. viewers need to know "why was the suffering important?" "how did this happen?" overall, a disappointing movie.”

“Honestly, I think the "virgin" Mary really had sex with a Roman and became pregos. She had to think fast and boom! There ya go....!”

“why a roman?”

“come on, ppl. if you really wanna show how much you love me, get one of my threads up over a 1000 before i leave”

“Stormbringer... I thought your review sucked /jk

I just needed an excuse to pump the thread count up.”

“Well sex outta wedlock back thne coulda got ya in a lot of trouble, I'd guess have sex with a "fair haired" Roman would got ya stoned to death. Why else would good old JC have been depicted as a blond and blue eyes.

Which is interesting.......which is it going to be? The blond JC or the dark haired JC? I've seen a lot of pics of the bro and he be one fair haired cracker. What's upi with all THAT?”

“Who loves you?

Friggin putz! You're going hiking for like 2 months straight and we're supposed to pity you?! SHADDAP!”

“6 months

tee hee

q, that was straight outta compton”

“It's gonna take you 6 months?!”

“Always question the answers!!!!! :P”

“it sure aint gonna take just 2.
36 miles a day is a leetle out of the queston”

“"Unlike Mel Gibson's notorious
'The Passion of the Christ,' ABC's movie ['Judas'] seems happily
lacking in anti-Semitic aspersions. Writer Tom Fontana, whose
impressive credits include the uncompromising 'Oz' on HBO, has
Pontius Pilate's wife tell her husband, as the assassination of
Jesus is plotted on Palm Sunday: 'Fix it so the Jews themselves
are held responsible.' It might have been better still if the
conversation had continued with Pilate scoffing, 'Who'd believe
that?' and his wife replying, 'You can always find a few bigots
and idiots who'll believe anything.' Regardless, the Big Lie was
born, and two millennia later, Gibson would find a way to recycle
it and gross more than $200 million in the process. Surely his
parking space in Hell has already been reserved." --Washington
Post TV columnist Tom Shales”

“i have to say, some jews were portrayed as good, and some were portrayed as bad. they tried to make some sort of tragic hero out of pontius pilate, which i thought was kinda sleazy. much of the beating were carried out by roman soldiers. if anything, i think it could be seen as showing the ills of mob mentality”

“Who killed JR????”

“Religion, what a complete and absolute joke.”

“That review seems a bit harsh Strat. I wonder what this guy’s background is? On the surface it looks like he might be one of those catholic hating protestants. The things that are anti-Semitic in the movie are so subtle and obscure most Christians wouldn’t even recognize them.”

“"Religion, what a complete and absolute joke."

Wow, thanks Buddha for the love and disrespect there Buddha. Nice to know you feel a big thing in my life is so absurd and a big joke to you simply because you don‘t agree with it. Care to take a dump on me too while you’re at it? I don’t normally even reply to ignorant comments like yours but it bothers me more coming from people I truly like.

You’ve really changed man.”

“nigal, that's the point of me posting it. i don't agree with it. i wanted to show the contempt for Christianity”

“Let me get this straight, so it's OK that you attack my belief, but it's not OK if I disagree with yours? Hmmm, that is exactly why I hold my belief.”

“And yes Nigal, I am a changed man. Religion has changed me. The hipocrasy, evangelism, and misguided beliefs of relgion are the main problems in the world, always have been, always will be. Now, even though we have a concept of seperation of church and state in this country, we have to become subject to these alleded religiuous morals, eventhough we live in a free country.

Freedom can only survive if everyone has tolerance. I was tolerant of religious folks, but since religious folks are not tolerant of my views, I finally said, screw it, the gloves are off.

Hence, my newly created belief of religion is a joke.”

“"Let me get this straight, so it's OK that you attack my belief, but it's not OK if I disagree with yours? Hmmm, that is exactly why I hold my belief."


I didn’t attack your belief. I attacked your disrespect. Saying what someone believes is an absolute joke is dot disagreeing. It’s simply disrespect. Believe whatever you care to but at least be strong enough in that belief to not have to tear down someone else’s belief in order to attempt to validate your own beliefs.

Go ahead and have the last word because I have nothing else to say to you.”