NO MORE SEX!

“like this?


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“Yeah, bit after reading the article I agree with you. Sounds pretty ouchy no matter what.”

“oh please! suck it up an be a man.

hi LyndyS!! :-D nice to see ya. how's life treating you?”

“HI LYRA!!! I'm doing great. What did I miss that past year? Any good gossip?”

“oh please! suck it up an be a man.
lyra
10:41:51 AM


Should I make the obvious, sexist wisecrack, to this out of context statement, about this being women's work, Lyra? :)”

“yay, glad you're doing so well!!

you've been gone a YEAR?? sheesh, you don't even deserve to know! ;-) haha. welllll umm...newgirl came back for, like, one day...says she's getting married soon. hmm, it must be too early in the morning, b/c i'm blanking. just read all the threads created in the last year, real quick-like!”

“sicko! :-)”

“Quicklike, huh? Sheesh, I can't be on here when I am in school because it is too addicting. So newgirl got married. WHAT ELSE HAPPENED? Geobeet needs to write and publish PEOPLE FROM TRAILTALK magazine.”

“Quicklike, huh? Sheesh, I can't be on here when I am in school because it is too addicting. So newgirl got married. WHAT ELSE HAPPENED? Geobeet needs to write and publish PEOPLE FROM TRAILTALK magazine.”

“IT GOT ME!! The fakeout to make me post twice.”

“you're out of practice! ;-)”

“There's something to put worry back into wild sex!

Hi Lyndy!
(one of the 3 TT'ers I met up with at Campmor)”

“Teacher! I've got a question on this article! It says

"Trauma during sexual relations is reported to be responsible for approximately one third of all cases; the female-dominant position is most commonly reported. The incidence of concomitant urethral injury in reported cases is 10-38%.

Etiology: In the Western Hemisphere, the injury most commonly occurs during sexual intercourse when the #&%!$ slips out of the vagina and strikes the perineum or the pubic symphysis. Other potential causes include industrial accidents, masturbation, gunshot wounds, or any other mechanical trauma that causes forcible breaking of an erect #&%!$.

In Middle Eastern countries, the injury more commonly occurs secondary to penile manipulation to achieve detumescence."

Now, the article mentions "masturbation" - so what is the difference between that and "penile manipulation to achieve detumescence."”

“This is just a guess, but I think that it means they squeeze it to get it to go limp, with no pleasure involved.”

“Good grief Ped, I certainly remember meeting you. Are you still planning to do the Long Path in Vermont? I loved the rewording of the song that you posted. I remember when you had the bad injury and we were all really worried about you. Are you doing really well now?”

“Yeah Lyndy - I'm doing pretty well. I am going to try to do the Long Trail in late July.

I had a big recovery party a week ago in my restored home. And I married Elle, who youmet at Campmor.

Here are two older stories on me:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/12/09/earlyshow/contributors/tracysmith/main660125.shtml

and http://www.townonline.com/cambridge/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=154541

oops they only have the first paragraph... full story is:
By Amanda McGregor/ Chronicle Staff
Thursday, December 30, 2004
After saving two lives, David Vogel woke up eight months ago from an induced coma, burned over half of his body. He is now learning to put his life back together.

On Valentine's Day, he went to bed early after snowshoeing in the White Mountains. Early the next morning, Vogel, 48, wearing only a bathrobe, ran back into his blazing Beech Street home early on Feb. 15 to save two children. He wouldn't know until he awoke from an induced coma at Massachusetts General Hospital two months later that he nearly died saving two children from a devastating fire.

Almost a year later, he and his then-fianc�e, Ellen Ezorsky, are rebuilding their home, piecing their lives back together and thankful to have each other.

"The huge thing is that I didn't lose any significant body parts, and I didn't lose any people," said Vogel. "In [burn] support groups, I met people who have lost both. It could have been a lot worse."

For nearly two months, doctors and nurses at Mass. General tended to Vogel's survival and repeatedly grafted skin while he was under heavy sedation. Doctors kept him in a plastic tent, where his body was moist, hot, bloated and wrapped like "a mummy," said wife Ezorsky, also 48.

"The doctors would say, as long as he's in the ICU, he's at risk," she said.

Getting life 'back to normal'

When Vogel awoke in the hospital, his first emotions were joy and elation, he said.

"I was drugged enough that I was a little numb to the emotional impact of the whole thing," said Vogel. "Since [the accident], I have met other burn survivors. Their stories are awful. I'm sort of glad I have no memory of [the recovery process]."

They had had "normal lives."

Vogel and Ezorsky each have two children from previous marriages. Their older children, Caleb and Alex, both 18, met freshman year at Cambridge Rindge and Latin in 2001, subsequently uniting Vogel and Ezorsky.

Vogel was born and raised in Cambridge. Ezorsky works at Harvard Hillel and paints in her spare time.

Engaged at the time of the tragic fire, the couple got Vogel a day pass to leave rehabilitation on May 1 and were married.

"My attitude was that I wanted to get back to everything that was yanked away from me by this," said Vogel. "[At first], we were remembering our relationship, and we wondered, 'Would we get it back as a living, ongoing thing?'"

Ezorsky had been by his side along with nurses, friends and family during the months Vogel had no memory of.

"We lived apart during this very intense period," said Ezorsky. "We led parallel lives."

"It's weird to me," said Vogel. "I eagerly read [a] book, [recently published about the Mass. General burn unit], almost to find out what I'd been through.

"One nice thing that really impressed me was how close Ellen had gotten to people in my family and how much they depended upon each other."

Vogel returned home in May and would walk to Mount Auburn Hospital, around the corner from their temporary home rented outside Harvard Square, for his heavy rehabilitation schedule.

"At rehab, I was sort of sorting out my situation in the world," he said. "That's when I got really down."

An avid hiker, Vogel had to re-teach his weakened, stiff body to walk. Damage to his throat prevented him from swallowing normally, and his body itched and ached as the skin healed. He suffered from insomnia as his body withdrew from heavy medications.

"I was constantly worried about choking," said Vogel, who had to eat pur�ed food. "I obviously lost a lot of muscle tone. I had to relearn walking with a walker.

"I remember some pain and a lot of itching," he said. "[The itching] would sometimes drive me to distraction."

He wore pressure garments over much of his body. His hands are still gloved, and will be until May 2005.

"When I was first out, I had to wear a vest and burn garments from waist to my toes. In the summer, it was so hot," he said.

On top of the physical recovery was the financial stress of finding work again, and squaring things away with the insurance company in order to get enough money to rebuild their home.

"Since I worked part-time consulting and teaching, I didn't have any sick time or anything like that," said Vogel. "I kept thinking, 'I'm spending money to eat and to do things. Will I ever make money again?'"

The world of burn survivors played a big role in Vogel's emotional coping, he said.

"We are people from all walks of life who have this one intense experience in common," said Vogel. "And they are so good to each other. [We remind each other that] we still have a lot to give."

Vogel now works at a Norwood hospital performing psychological consultations and admissions screenings, and will return to Merrimack College as a part-time psychology professor.

"[With the job in Norwood], it's been nice not to have too much face-to-face interaction," said Vogel. "I feel kind of funny about how I look and I was nervous about how people would react to me."

Remembering the fire

Once out of the house the morning of the fire, Vogel realized his stepson and a friend were still inside. "As soon as I caught my breath, I heard this horrible scream and I thought, 'Jacob!'" said Vogel. Jacob is Ezorsky's 13-year-old son. "I just tore up the stairs."

Vogel gripped the doorknob to get into Jacob's room but burned his hands, so he knocked the door in with his body. He found the two boys in the corner and he led them outside.

Wearing only an open bathrobe, he was burned over much of his exposed body, including his hands, chest, legs and feet, which left bloody footprints in the snow as he walked outside the house. Skin dangled from his hands like lace, said Ezorsky.

"I had no idea I was that seriously burned," said Vogel.

The adrenaline and shock hid the extent Vogel's injuries.

"Before he got in the ambulance, he made a joke," said Ezorsky. "You were so cognizant," she said to Vogel as the two sat together on a couch in their temporary residence on Lowell Street two weeks ago.

Vogel remembers the morning of the fire up through his ride in the ambulance.

"In some ways," said Vogel, "the most troubling bit was being in the ambulance. It was freezing cold and I was naked and they refused to put a blanket on me. They said they had to preserve what skin infrastructure there was. I thought, 'These guys are crazy.'"

When he was wheeled out of the ambulance, everything "went black." His next lucid moment would come seven weeks later.

"Then I woke up, and I found out it had been almost two months," said Vogel.

Meanwhile, Ezorsky had to deal with all the technical details of her fianc�'s care, their home, their children and the harrowing prospect that David may not live.

"I just went into highly-functional mode," said Ezorsky, who visited Vogel every day in the hospital the first three weeks. "I didn't even know if he had homeowner's insurance ... I had to make all these decisions."

With the help of family, the community and the doctors and nurses at Mass. General, she made it through, she said.

"People made us food, raised money," said Ezorsky. "The community was amazing.

"People would come up to me and they would start crying, and I would start crying," she said, then paused with emotion. "It was just so incredible."
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“no more sex!!!”

“Thank you for posting that, Pedxing. I remember now reading that you and Ellen had gotten married, but I didn't know a lot of the other information about your injuries and recovery. I'm so sorry that you had to go through all of that. It is fantastic that you were able to save the boys. The nurses that work in the burn unit are very special. Most of the students that I am studying with say that they don't want to work in burn units because it is so emotionally traumatic, with the patients in so much pain. I think that we have no idea how much courage you have to get through all of that and be back on the mountains again. I admire you and Ellen for your strength.”

“Well, I guess it happens in the animal world too...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16672806/”

“WTF? No sex? What do you think tequila is for?”

“LMAO - maybe mr. panda should upgrade to lady grizzlies if madame panda is too tiny? =p”

“I remember this thread from way back.. funny schtuff!! Sister Mary Tango .. lol

did I mention my full name is PennsYuri Hikerov?”
Pennsy

I'm going to start calling him that.”

“Same thing happened to the lead singer of Blues Traveler didn't it?”

“Hahahahahahahaha. too bad.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070717/od_nm/britain_chastity_dc;_ylt=ArxToVaVMmCRQZ60bVAqbdHMWM0F”

“same kinda thing happened to me...i wanted to wear my "i got some last night" necklace but the school wouldn't let me”

“that gal's name is "Playfoot"

oh come on!”

“AHHHHH!!!...i just went back a read the original post...i posted to a sex in the city thread...does that make me metro sexual?”

“This thread title SUCKS ---- Ban It!”

“Thrifty, you are doomed.”

“Lydia, OH Lydia....”

“I'm guessing that her dating spectrum is nil!”

“Really depends on what her definition of "sex" is. Didn't we have a Chief Executive who pretty much gave the kiddies an OUT on the sex thing.


You know I never know what to think of those types. We had a girl in Highschool who was leader of the local Baptist Student Union and was a big "religion follower" but I tend to remember pretty much a six pack, and a quiet place would get you a nice ride.”