Teachers Are Terrorists

“Tilt,,, its is interesting that you bring that up,,, because I asked myself a similiar question while working for the cable company. I work in every 'hood across town and you know what really grinded my azz was that the poorest folks, Sect 8'ers and Subsidizers were paying the most on avg.($80+ a month) while their kids ran around in bare feet and 2nd hand clothing and everything had RTO written on the back of it.

Those rich bastards that you have problems with were the 'tightest' phucks to sell too. I guess it is a question of priorities.

BTW,, what is the latest on the war on drugs?

I'm glad the system is slowly turning around. There was a time ,I feel, in the not so distant past that the unions were protecting what I consider 'bad apples'.

I'm utterly amazied at the changes at my old school since I left. They have rocked the foundation of that school so much it literally collapsed about over month ago.”

“Bear ,sorry about the jiberish,but my feeling are so strong about giant unions that I consider not too different from their large corporate bothers,I become pretty much incoherent.It is not worth the downsides to delve the depths of this touchy subject in such an explosive campsite.”

“I work for one of the biggest unions out there, AFSCME. Yes, it's true, we have to defnd bad apples, it's the law. Yes, we have an agenda, we have to. It's called checks and balances dude. Somebody has to keep businesses in check, and we can't truct the government to do it, hence... unions.

Our country was founded upon balance and equity in many ways, I just wish people would see that unions balance the power that large corps yeild.”

“If you look at history, it is unions and environmental groups that have pushed for safer work environments and protecting the environment from pollution, not big corp.'s. Big corp.'s are out for one thing, and one thing only...... making money, plain and simple. With the advent of NAFTA, and the repub's ignoring the labor and enviromental agreements that have gone with it, it's only natural for big corp.'s to flee this country and employ folks elsewhere. They can make more money. In order to stop them, we have to pass laws, or enforce the agreements, or... the folks in the countries that the jobs are going to have to provide thier own labor and environmental movements. It's logic bro. Really, it is.”

“BB

Your passionate interest in this is commendable but it isn't just a matter of logic.

More money doesn't automatically = better schools and better student acheivement. My county school system spends less per pupil than the city school systenm next door and the results are shocking. There are many other factors, seemingly intractable social problems that negate any amount of money. The state has been pouring great sums of money into the city schools for years with little if anything to show for it. Good money after bad...a sink hole. How does Utah get high acheivement while spending per pupil ranks lower than most states? FAMILIES.

Money matters? Logic? Why do AfAm students from upper income families still lag
significantly behind other groups in test scores? Factors beyond money and logic.

A county HS here with a high minority population gets extra federal funds and has state of the art science equipment that we wish we had. Their scores are consistently at the bottom...way down at the bottom. Factors beyond money and logic.

The state is about to take over the city schools. After a while the rest of the state says enough....time to change. If that change goes contrary to the NEA, well then too bad. They are not terrorists, but they can be obstructionists.

As a teacher I would love to make more money and have better facilties. I support my union and having grown up in a union household fully value them (YEAH UNIONS!)(LOOK FOR THE UNION LABEL!), but they aren't not always right and they do protect some very bad apples.

I am a teacher of children and they come first. It would be different if I assembled cars or widgets.”

“The unions HAVE to protect the bad apples due to the law. Do you think I like trying to get bus drivers with DUI's thier jobs back? NO! But I have to defend them to the best of my abaility, because that's what the law dictates. If management would do a better job busting people, and the laws were changed a bit, the abusers and bad employees would either shape up or be gone.”

“Hell of a job BB. I've heard of these cases here too. If you get tired of representing the creeps and want to try to make a difference go teach in a city school and see how much the NEA really helps the teachers and schools.”

“I understand the principle behind the unions but it is how they go about getting things done that kinda irks me the most. Call it certain strongarm tatics.

No one here as tried to argue what unionizing the teachers as done to the education system. Why,,is there not an arguement to be made there?

What will it be like when our Doctor force completely unionize?
That day may come yet.

I kinda see a catch-22 for the teachers and the Dr.'s if they ever fully unionizing. Are they in for themselves or for the kids and patients? Who are they really fighting for?”

“Teachers are not terrorist.Business people are not terrorist.The gun owners are not terrorist.But ,the large organizations to which they belong and work ,in time,become 'TERRORIST'.
Massive coalesance for any cause,unfortunately,usually and as demonstrated by corps.,unions ,religions,NRA,ALCU,Democrates,Republicans ,sports leagues and etc are taken over by the greedist,grabbist elements which lead away from the intended goal and into a terrorist mode directed at all that are obstacles to their greedy wants.”

“Driving home after school yesterday I heard on CBC radio (and so it must be true) that some big guy in your federal government called lawyers that oppose new class action lawsuit legislation terrorists.

You guys havin' fun down there?”

“Oh yeah. We're having a ball.”

“WooHoo!! Spitballs, wads of paper....

We don't need no education!!!!
We don't need no thought control!!!”

“Someone may be having fun, Grem. But, I don't think it's anyone on this board. 'Terrorist' seems to be a catch word that up to recently, haas been kept in context for the most part. But, with this stuff being said, it appears that there is the elemnet of overkill going on. Paige had no business using that word in that context. You would think that someone in his position might have enough of a command of the English language to find a suitable term to convey the idea without that being his first choice...”

“We have our own version of the same thing up here. We call it manipulation and intimidation.”

“Several months ago the Repub Nat Comm started encouraging its faithful to use the term "hate speech" to counter criticism of Dubya.

Angry
Delusional
Terrorist

Did I miss any?”

“New York. At New York's Kennedy airport today, an individual
later discovered to be a public school teacher was arrested
trying to board a flight while in possession of a ruler, a
protractor, a setsquare, a slide rule, and a calculator.


At a morning press conference, Attorney general John
Ashcroft said he believes the man is a member of the
notorious Al-Gebra movement. The teacher is being charged by
the FBI with carrying weapons of math instruction.


"Al-Gebra is a fearsome cult," Ashcroft said. "They desire
average solutions by means and extremes, and sometimes go
off on tangents in a search for absolute value. They use
secret code names like 'x' and 'y' and refer to themselves
as 'unknowns,' but we have determined they belong to a
common denominator of the axis of medieval with coordinates
in every country. As the Greek philanderer Isosceles used to
say, there are 3 sides to every triangle," Ashcroft concluded.

When asked to comment on the arrest, President Bush said,

"If God had wanted us to have better weapons of math
instruction, He would have given us more fingers and toes. I
am gratified that our government has given us a sine that it
is intent on protracting us from these math-dogs who are
willing to disintegrate us with calculus disregard. Murky
statisticians love to inflict plane on every sphere of
influence. Under the circumferences, we must differentiate
their root, make our point, and draw the line."


The President also warned, "These weapons of math
instruction have the potential to decimal everything on a
scalene never before seen unless we become exponents of a
Higher Power and begin to factor in random facts of vertex."


Attorney General Ashcroft agreed, adding, "As our Great
Leader would say, 'Read my ellipse.' Though they continue to
multiply, their days are numbered as the hypotenuse tightens
around their necks."”

“ROTFLMAO! now THAT'S funny! My wife is gonna love that one.”

“I hate those Al Gebra bastids, they nearly ruined my life. Obviously a bunch of backward fundamentalists if they still have slide rules. Shoot the bastid.”

“That is really funny. Pedxing posted that about a month ago.”

“(AP) A substitute teacher is accused of using a string to choke a 7-year-old student who had not done his homework.

Albert Coleman, 59, is accused of slipping a string around the child's neck and drawing it tight, police said.

He was fired by the Newark school district, and police charged him with aggravated assault following Monday's incident at the Elliott Street School.

A Newark Public Schools spokeswoman said the incident happened to the second-grader at an after-school program and said the teacher was terminated immediately.

Authorities said Coleman reportedly told the boy that he was going to strangle him if he didn't do his homework. When the boy didn't, police said, Coleman had the boy stand on a chair.

He then took the string attached to the ceiling light and tightened it around the boy's neck and released it, authorities said.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/01/national/main609848.shtml

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“Send him to Iraq!”

“Some people make the rest of us teachers look bad!!!! That makes me mad....”

“No prob, Clem, we finally get respect. Mooohahahahahahah!”

“I don't see the problem. Didn't we all have this done to us at one time or another?

We need to quit coddling our children and introduce them to the fact that the world is a bad place!”

“Teacher accused of ordering student thrown from window

COVINGTON, Ga. (AP) — A teacher at a Newton County school has resigned after officials say she admitted she told two students to throw a 14-year-old girl from a classroom window.

The teacher, a 63-year-old Conyers resident, was not immediately arrested after the Monday incident, which took place at Sharp Learning Center. But the Newton County Sheriff's Office is investigating.

The student, whose name was not released, was taken to Newton General Hospital on Tuesday night for neck pains and cuts to her body, said Newton County Sheriff's Office investigator Marty Roberts.

According to an incident report by resource officer Brian Chiappetta, the incident took place in the morning during second period. The students were in class when the teacher took a photograph of some of the students, the report said. When the girl asked why the teacher had taken her picture, the teacher allegedly responded with a disparaging remark about the girl's appearance.

The girl became upset and began to use profanity and hit the office assist button on the classroom wall, the incident report said. The teacher then allegedly told two 14-year-old boys to pick up the girl and throw her out the window.

The two boys later told principal Kenneth Daniels that they threw the girl out the window because they did not want to be written up for disobeying a teacher.

The teacher resigned Wednesday, Roberts said.

Roberts said he has been told that the school board will leave it up to the girl's parents to pursue criminal charges against the teacher. But he said his investigation is ongoing.

"I've had incidents involving schools, but I've never heard of such a thing where the teacher instructs students like this," Roberts said.

www.usatoday.com”

“Hmmm I would never do that ... Iwould throw her out myself...
lol”

“Georgia: It's not a State; it's an Adventure ----

Are you sure she didn't say something about Evolution? LOL”

“Thursday, May 27, 2004 · Last updated 6:05 p.m. PT

Utah teacher arrested for making threat

By CHRISTIE L. HILL
ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER

SALT LAKE CITY -- A suburban junior high math teacher was arrested Thursday for allegedly threatening to go on a shooting rampage if she did not get the assignments she wanted, police said.

Sandra Wariner, 57, was taken into custody while on her lunch break at a fast food restaurant, and charged with making a terroristic threat.

Principal Steve Lindsay notified police after Wariner allegedly threatened to return to Bountiful Junior High School with a shotgun and open fire at him, students, and other teachers, said Bountiful police Lt. Steve Gray.

"What she was concerned about was the classes she was teaching in the fall," Davis School District spokesman Chris Williams said.

Wariner was apparently talking with teachers in the faculty lounge when Lindsay walked in and the comments were made, Williams said.

"He felt threatened to the point that he had to take some action so he called police," Williams said.

Police searched Wariner's home and confiscated a shotgun and a .357-caliber revolver, Gray said.

Wariner, who teaches various math courses, has been with the district on and off since 1974, and steadily since 1987, Williams said.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apus_story.asp?category=1110&slug=Teacher%20Threat”

“Bet she belongs to the NEA.”

“Probably a republican and a NRA member, too. Utah is very republican.”

“I think republican and NEA are mutually exclusive. And threatening gun violence is a democrat tactic. Just ask the St. Petersburg Democratic Club.”

“57 year old gun owning Utah resident is probably republican.”

“It's obvious to me that Republican policy preference at the highest levels has been to shoot first and ask questions later, at least in the Reagan and Bush II administrations. And anyone who questions this lack of depth has their virility and patriotism questioned. Anti-intellectualism is a tone set in the Oval Office these days, but the world is still a complex place... in many ways more complex than ever.

It would be wise for a politician in the current climate to not be seen as cerebral. Thinking through issues has become a liability. If one actually considers the pros and cons of various options publicly, they are labelled a "waffler". I'm sure it could seem that way to someone who loses track of the discussion.

If one doesn't automatically approve every weapons system that comes down the pike, the accusation of being "soft on defense" will always appear. It's Page One in the Republican playbook... and it's a 2-for-1: an insult to one's patriotism and machismo.

Is it any wonder recent Republican presidents like to model themselves after movie cowboys? I wonder if they realise that those guys are fictional, <G>

But Hey --- Violence Sells! Wrestling, Nascar, Schwarzenegger flicks... and 'if it bleeds, it leads' on the local news. We don't have gladiators in the Coliseum anymore -- we have "Real TV".

And the current administration.”

“Terr-ists is ba-ad. They kin have nuke-u-lar weapons.”

“Oh, speaking of "Real TV"... I caught just a few seconds of it last night. They were showing some views of Earth from the Space Shuttle and voice-over guy sez, "Just look at those Amazing Shots.... Each More Incredble than the Next..."

I was thinking, either the last few shots Really Sucked or they need new writers, LOL

-- end of tangent --”

“"I think republican and NEA are mutually exclusive."

The world is a complex place.......ya might be surprised.



"And threatening gun violence is a democrat tactic."

Democratic politicians are usually the ones to receive death threats over controversial issues.

I can't imagine a "bleeding heart" suggesting violence.”

“TOKYO - A Japanese teenager was forced by his teacher to write an apology in blood after dozing in the classroom, the school’s principal said on Monday.
[...]
He said the boy was taken to the staff room of the school in Fukuoka City, southern Japan, after being caught asleep during a lesson. The 40-year-old male teacher handed the boy a box-cutter and paper and told him to write an apology in blood.

The teacher left the student, who then cut his finger and began to write an apology using his own blood.
[...]


www.msnbc.msn.com”

“Isn't that part of the No Child Left Behind thing?

After reading about Dr Justin Frank's book, we see that Dubya is a psychotic sadistic megalomaniac.”

“He made him bleed his own blood!”

“Ah, but yes, that would be masochistic.......but compelled to do so by a sadist.”

“DES MOINES - Cecilia Beaman is a 57-year-old grandmother, a principal at Pacific Middle School in Des Moines, and as of Sunday is also a suspected terrorist.

"This is not right," she told us. It's not right!"

This past weekend she and several other chaperones took 37 middle school students to a Heritage Festival band competition in California. The trip included two days at Disneyland.

During the stay she made sandwiches for the kids and was careful to pack the knives she used to prepare those sandwiches in her checked luggage. She says she even alerted security screeners that the knives were in her checked bags and they told her that was OK.

But Beaman says she couldn't find a third knife. It was a 5 1/2 inch bread knife with a rounded tip and a serrated edge. She thought she might have lost or misplaced it during the trip.

On the trip home, screeners with the Transportation Security Administration at Los Angeles International Airport found it deep in the outside pocket of a carry-on cooler. Beaman apologized and told them it was a mistake.

"You've committed a felony," Beaman says a security screener announced. "And you're considered a terrorist."

Beaman says she was told her name would go on a terrorist watch-list and that she would have to pay a $500 fine.

"I'm a 57-year-old woman who is taking care of 37 kids," she told them. "I'm not gonna commit a terrorist act." Beaman says they took information from her Washington drivers license and confiscated and photographed the knife according to standard operating procedure.

She says screeners refused to give her paperwork or documentation of her violation, documentation of the pending fine, or a copy of the photograph of the knife.

"They said 'no' and they said it's a national security issue. And I said what about my constitutional rights? And they said 'not at this point ... you don't have any'."

more...”

“Seems like these screeners need some better training.

I got caught with my leatherman in my carry on (thought it was in my checked bag, but my carry on was my dayhiking pack and I'd put it in there during a hike and never took it out) and all they did was ask me if I wanted to mail it home.”

“I'm so glad they used my tax money to make sure that knife was documented properly. And thank god there is one more teacher off the streets. They were everywhere when I was a kid. For pete's sake, one had a ruler and wasn't afraid to use it. Imagine if that got on a plane.”

“Bison, I did the same thing. The scary part was that they never found it. Went through four x-ray machines. I realized it was in there on my final flight.”

“Time for a new thread: "Bison and Indiana John Are Terrorists".”

“Me too. They confiscated my toenail clippers on the way to Albuquerque in February.”

“I had a high school history teacher terrorist who taught us kids how to start a world war. It's easy. You just shoot Archduke Franz Ferdinand.”

“No no no, the way to start a world war is to dress up a squad (14) of condemned prisoners in Canadian army special forces uniforms and take them to a radio tower just across the border from Canada and execute them. Take lots of pictures, villify Canada and then invade. Simple, no fuss no muss.”

“your grandmothers a terrorist”