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Mor dern vews frum a rednck
This is a call for conservatives to openly and honestly express their views. I am noticing that far too often conservatives keep their mouth shuts for fear of sounding narrow minded, intolerant, uneducated, etc. Sometimes in conversation, on this forum as well, some people come off sounding unsure of their beliefs/opinions. I really think that it is because we, as a society, don't want to offend people who do not think like us. So what if people don't think alike. That is what makes this country great. Let me just go on record with a few points and see if maybe I am the last of a dying breed.
1: Women's lib is over. So shoot me if I think that women should be pampered, guys should open car doors, always show up to a date with flowers, and yes I believe it is the man's responsibility to provide for the family.

2: People are sissies nowadays. Let me let you in on a little secret: it is much easier to shirk personal responsibilities and pass them on to something else...It's called an excuse. Guess what, alcoholism and drug abuse isn't a disease, it is a choice. Take personal responsibilty. People think that if they call it a sickness, then they have no responsibility. Put the bottle down, stop beating your wife, take off the smelly clothes, and get on with your life. See how easy it is....and here's another shocker... Homosexuality is a choice as well. That elusive"gay Gene" has never been proven, even though we have mapped the entire human genome. I know what your aking..why would anyone put themselves through the torture if it was a choice? Why would anyone pierce their nipples? There are plenty of creepy bastards out there. Who cares what makes them tick.

3. If you spend so much time worrying about who you are offending, the stuff that really matters gets neglected. I think it is ridiculous that there was a lawsuit trying to change the PLedge of Allegiance because of "One nation Under God". I think it is ridiculous that high school coaches are sued by parents of children who didn't make the team. It is a classical example of sissy parents showing to their kids that if you whine enough and throw a tantrum, maybe you will get your way. I think it is ridiculous that GreenPeace protests oil drilling but they drive their gas guzzling SUV to get to the picket line.

4. It is ok to discipline your kids. A story was emailed to me about a man arrested for spanking his child after his TWO year old called DHR. Some bleeding heart judge said that people like him were the cause of troubled kids. NewsFlash!! Kids with no discipline are the cause of troubled kids.
Maybe I am all alone in the way I think, but I gotta tell ya', the good ol'USA is going to hell in a handbasket. And it damn sure isn't because we pray in public shools or because we dare trying to stop a bunch of sissies in San Fran from gettin' hitched. Maybe I dream of a world where welfare, affirmitive action, the aclu, peta, heroin, married fairies, and yes liberals, do not exist.
RebelYell
1:48:54 PM
2/24/04

What a load of #&%!$!
Treebeard
1:52:12 PM
2/24/04

The conservatives here will have more credibility if you learn how to spell keep your rants to one topic at time.
bison
1:53:58 PM
2/24/04

Alot of the peo;ple here think its OK to make fun of retarded peo;le. People like mapleleaf.
bales
1:55:44 PM
2/24/04

error
"spell and keep your rants"

and throw at the polemical language in your rants as well.
bison
1:55:54 PM
2/24/04

Bison, this is full of generalities that are, at the very least, an insult to the people that he lumped into one category and his stupid accusations don't apply to. So, I don't care if he spelled it correctly or not, this guy is a flaming asswipe!
Treebeard
1:56:52 PM
2/24/04

Please move north and embarass THEM for a change.
Tilt
1:57:19 PM
2/24/04

He may be on a bit of a rant, and maybe a little more than slightly extreme - but he does make a couple of good points.
Roam Around
1:58:05 PM
2/24/04

You mean, his deductive reasoning as to why homosexuals are 'creepy bastards'? Or is it that liberals shouldn't exist? Or that women shouldn't work in a society that has so many male workers that couldn't make ends meet on one salary and can barely make it on two? Or that everyone in Greenpeace drives an SUV? Should I go on or do you want to give this turd any more credit?
Treebeard
2:01:35 PM
2/24/04

In conclusion: Rebel Yell, F_ck you and everyone that looks like you!
Treebeard
2:02:34 PM
2/24/04

Well, the problem he is having is that even conservative republicans are embarrased by Bush.

Any wonder? Anyone with any amount of intelligence or decency would be ashamed to defend him.
redhawk
2:03:47 PM
2/24/04

no, no, no - just that it's a good general observation that people should get over it at times and stop being so offended - it seems like everytime you turn around someone is sueing someone else because they were "offended".
Roam Around
2:04:41 PM
2/24/04

That's true. But, a minor point like that is so overshadowed by this other feeble minded crap this booger-brain is spewing that it seems pointless...
Treebeard
2:06:26 PM
2/24/04

Roam I find that very offensive. Now give me a $1000.
lumberzac
2:06:44 PM
2/24/04

Redhawk
You're about half as bad on the other side as RebelYell (HALF as bad).
bison
2:06:51 PM
2/24/04

Hey, everyone let's feed this troll until he bursts!

We'll give him so many posts on this thread that he becomes a real boy!
Phaedrus
2:07:25 PM
2/24/04

Waaaaaa! Ya whiner!
Where's that crybaby pic that UpUrs always trots out? I think rebel yell needs a dose of that.
aero
2:09:54 PM
2/24/04

Oh please, Aero. If I never see that again, it will be too soon...
Treebeard
2:22:49 PM
2/24/04

Rebel Yell sounds a lot like George Carlin ?
Does George Carlin hike ? :-)
snafu29
2:31:20 PM
2/24/04

Please do not insult George like that. Carlin is a genius and this guy is pathetic...
Treebeard
2:33:59 PM
2/24/04

Being the great liberal I am, I am glad Rebel Yell can state his point of view.

While I disagree, I think his right to be able to do it is vital, sort of like "burning a flag". Not pretty, but essential from time to time.
chili36
2:37:27 PM
2/24/04

Chili's right. And it is also my right to dissect his viewpoint!
Treebeard
2:40:04 PM
2/24/04

No doubt, but always critique the message, not shoot the messenger.
chili36
2:42:47 PM
2/24/04

Yep - 'Stupid' is perfectly legal.

So is 'offensive', Reach Around, so nobody is getting sued for that either.
Violin
2:43:21 PM
2/24/04

Roam Around, Roam Around!

How did I make that mistake?
Violin
2:44:57 PM
2/24/04

Outside of calling him a flaming asswipe, a turd, booger brain and telling him FU, I think I kept my attacks on the message!
Treebeard
2:46:54 PM
2/24/04

Tree
I love George Carlin he is my idol ! but George does bring up many of those same topics up in his standup skits, he just does it with more humor :-)
snafu29
2:46:57 PM
2/24/04

Bison
On the other side? I'm a moderate.

I have a friend in Connecticut who is the epitome of a staunch conservative Republican. He holds public office there and has a poster of Rush Limbaugh on his wall along with a John Birch coffee cup.

We "spar" politics all the time.

He tells me that there are two people who have now set the Republican Party back 50 years, Newt Gingrich and George W Bush.

He really is embarrased right now to be a Republican and trust me, Bob is just a little to the left of fringe ultra conservative.
redhawk
3:07:28 PM
2/24/04

Hell... Clinton was more of a conservative then Bush is. At least Clinton was forced into moderation by a Republican legislative branch. I think we need to put the gridlock back into the system... at least when nothing was acomplished it was a better alternative to accomplishing idiotic bloated programs.
DeoreDX
3:16:50 PM
2/24/04

jee-zus, treebeard. You've turned into a liberal analog of a freeper dittohead!
Mutt
3:20:04 PM
2/24/04

Are you saying I don't think for myself, Mutt?
Treebeard
3:25:16 PM
2/24/04

I have become quite a cynic in a lot of ways. But, just a dittohead that parrots whatever I hear? I don't think so, Mutt.
Treebeard
3:26:39 PM
2/24/04

Rebel Yell is just another whinin'-ass conservative puke.
MarkO
3:26:48 PM
2/24/04

Oh dear me, the U.S.A. is goin' to hell!

Let's go back to the good ole days!

That fool is caught in the Nostalgia Trap!
MarkO
3:31:13 PM
2/24/04

jee-zus, treebeard. You've turned into a liberal analog of a freeper dittohead!"
Mutt
03:20:04 PM
02/24/04



I have no clue what you said Mutt, but it made me laugh.
in a good way. thank you :)


tree is a freeper dittohead

HAHAHA
mapleleaf
3:35:56 PM
2/24/04

Treebeard, your ad hom attacks reminded me of the usual vicious response of freepers to any liberal philosophy.
Mutt
3:37:16 PM
2/24/04

Looks like Mutt did the old hit and run...
Treebeard
3:37:17 PM
2/24/04

Sorry, Mutt. Spoke too soon. Yeah, I released on him a bit more than I normally would. Not making excuses. Those sort of generalities, in reality, don't even warrant a response. But, we all have some days that we are a little more pent up than others.
Treebeard
3:40:12 PM
2/24/04

Redhawk - Good for your friend, I have many conservative friends also none of whom have ever indicated that they are in any way embarrased by Bush (I'm embarrased by Gingrich). My problem is with people on this board (mainly Liberals, and possibly some of the conservative although I may not notice it as much.) Who can't understand that people look at things differently. I don't go around saying people are stupid, ignorant, or brainwashed because they've looked at an issue and come to a different conclusion than I do. You aren't going to see me going around calling someone a "Kerry Sycophant" because they look at his positions in a different light than me.
Bison
4:19:57 PM
2/24/04

If treebeard were a liberal version of a freeper dittohead, he would have threatened to kick Rebel yell's ass or put a bullet through his head along with the insults.
Violin
4:32:22 PM
2/24/04

Oh and BTW, how do you like my new troll?
Violin
4:33:14 PM
2/24/04

Well, your troll makes more sense about alot of those points than any of his opposition in this thread. They had no choice but to resort to their typical name-calling.
StickmanWalking
4:48:30 PM
2/24/04

Shove it donut breath!
Violin
4:52:12 PM
2/24/04

Kiss my donut hole, Violenin!
StickmanWalking
4:56:23 PM
2/24/04

Now that's police brutality.
Violin
4:59:31 PM
2/24/04



"I'm sorry Violin, I won't say mean things to you anymo---NO, VIOLIN, I DIDN'T MEAN TO GET YOU SO UPSET!!!!
StickmanWalking
5:07:31 PM
2/24/04

I confess
I went on a date without bringing flowers.
I apologize, and it won't happen again.
Dunadan
5:24:17 PM
2/24/04

Phaedrus
5:34:22 PM
2/24/04

Nice pic Stickitinaman.
uncliff
7:02:51 PM
2/24/04

this thread is great................










































for me to poop on!
Buddha Bear
7:23:13 PM
2/24/04

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