Bush

“I really don't know how anyone that loves the wilderness can vote for Bush.
I did once but never again.
If he and Gale Norton have their way there won't be any wilderness.”

“ooooooooh goody. a new jihad bush thread. how refreshing and original....”

“You got it, sister!”

“Why do you say that traillady?”

“Because the alternative is John Kerry.”

“Why?

Because of "No Tree Left Behind"”

“I say that because they want to build roads in National Forests, drill ANWR, drain wetlands, shoot all the buffalo that leave Yellowstone even though they are still on public ground and not private ranches and the list goes on and on......”

“ummmmm....

bush.......”

“Who here likes bush?”

“Depends...”

“I DO like President Bush. I find it interesting that I see almost nobody FOR Kerry. The only ones I see supporting Kerry are doing so be cause he isn't Bush.

Must be sad to be motivated so much by hate.”

“I don't know enough about either of the canidates. A vote from me would be ignorant.”

“I would say many presidents of both parties have been elected because of who they are not rather than who they are.”

“I DO like President Bush. I find it interesting that I see almost nobody FOR Kerry. The only ones I see supporting Kerry are doing so be cause he isn't Bush.

Must be sad to be motivated so much by hate

Another example of someone who doesn't understand the two-party system.”

“One thing that I have to say about Bush's environmental record...

It seems to me that in a world in which we are so dependent on Middle East oil, it probably makes sense to look for new sources in places like the Gulf of Mexico and ANWR.

I've evolved on this issue, but sometimes nature does need to be sacrificed for national security.

That said, Bush is not exactly burning it up - hehe - in terms of alternative energy, efficiency or Venezuela policy.”

“I agree with NoProb.”

“Have you read the geologists reports on drilling ANWR?
10 years to develope the fields, maybe 6 months to 2 years oil supply and even if the oil comes here instead of going to Japan with the other Alaskan oil it will raise our prices at the pumps because of the cost of getting it here.
We need alternate fuels.
Drilling ANWR will not make us independent of OPEC.”

“I do not hate Bush and have approved of many of the things he has done, but the economy sucks and he has no environmental conscience what so ever.”

“traillady nailed it on the ANWR issue. It would be a stupid funneling of money to oil company/energy development company to explore that - oh wait I meant a simple handout to GW's buddies to explore that.

did somebody mention Venuzuela? I know - rainforests and all, but shouldn't it get spread around?

Wait - what if we just burned that new constitution they just shed blood over in Baghdad and annex the country? Kuwait might not mind if it was US invading them.”

“The economy is going up.

It started down the last two years of Clinton's term. The dot com disaster, Enron, Worldcom, 9/11 kept the spiral going.

ANWAR is an isolated frozen tundra with no wildlife and no people. The environmental impact would be negligable.”

“Miss Thorpe maybe you should check your facts a little more thoroughly.”

“Which facts should I check?”

“The wildlife in ANWR.”

“ANWAR is an isolated frozen tundra with no wildlife and no people. The environmental impact would be negligable."

Miss Anne Thrope



Fact: The Arctic National Wildlife Refuge is unique on the North Slope of Alaska and in the world. It is the only place in the nation where the full spectrum of arctic and sub-arctic ecosystems is protected in an unbroken continuum. It is known as "America's Serengeti" for the herd of 129,000 caribou that gather on the coastal plain to bear and nurse their young each year and for its concentrations of other migratory wildlife.

Fact: Unlike the Prudhoe Bay area, it is the nation's most important polar bear denning habitat on land, hosts up to 300,000 staging snow geese, and provides critical calving habitat for the international Porcupine caribou herd for which there is no alternative.”

“Fact: The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service considers the 1.5 million-acre coastal plain area the "biological heart" of the entire 19-million acre refuge. This area -- where the oil industry wants to drill -- is the center of wildlife activity in the refuge and its most productive area, according to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. The coastal plain is a critical part of our nation's preeminent wilderness.

Fact: The Interior Department concluded in a 1987 (Reagan Administration) Report to Congress that oil development in the coastal plain would cause major impacts to the Porcupine caribou herd, muskoxen, water quality and quantity, subsistence uses by local residents, and wilderness.”

“We have had technology that makes internal combustion engines obsolete for many years. We had the technology when Clinton/Gore were in office, and yet I never saw their motorcades consisting of electric or hydrogen burning cars. Democrat/Republican it doesn't matter. Excuse me while I go spend my paycheck filling up my V8...”

“miss throat must still be checking his facts”

“Gay Republicans Attack Bush!

~snicker~”

“Disclaimer: this was sent to me by an aquaintance - I do not know the level of accuracy or factual truth represented by the following. If the statements are accurate, it's not a very pretty picture. If they are inaccurate, it's a pretty good smear effort.

I figure it should generate some interesting discussion by the collective....

RESUME: GEORGE W. BUSH, THE WHITE HOUSE, USA

EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE:

Law Enforcement: I was arrested in Kennebunkport, Maine, in 1976 for driving under the influence of alcohol. I pled guilty, paid a fine, and had my driver's license suspended for 30 days. My Texas driving record has been
"lost" and is not available.

Military: I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL. I refused to take a drug test or answer any questions about my drug use. By joining the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to avoid combat duty in Vietnam.

College: I graduated from Yale University with a low C average. I was a cheerleader.

PAST WORK EXPERIENCE:

I ran for U.S. Congress and lost.

I began my career in the oil business in Midland, Texas, in 1975. I bought an oil company but couldn't find any oil in Texas. The company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.

I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money.

With the help of my father and our right-wing friends in the oil industry (including Enron CEO Ken Lay), I was elected governor of Texas.

ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR OF TEXAS:

I changed Texas pollution laws to favor power and oil companies, making Texas the most polluted state in the Union.

During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles as the most smog-ridden city in America.

I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to the tune of billions in borrowed money.

I set the record for the most executions by any governor in American history.

With the help of my brother, the governor of Florida, and my father's appointments to the Supreme Court, I became President after losing by over 500,000 votes.

ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:

I am the first President in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record.

I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one billion dollars per week.

I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. Treasury.

I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S. history.

I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.

I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.

In my first year in office, over 2 million Americans lost their jobs and that trend continues every month.

I'm proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any
administration in U.S. history. My "poorest millionaire," Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.

I set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips by a U.S. President.

I am the all-time U.S. and world record-holder for receiving the most corporate campaign donations.

My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best friends, Kenneth Lay, presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in U.S. history, Enron. My political party used Enron private jets and corporate
attorneys to assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my election decision.

I have protected my friends at Enron and Halliburton against investigation or prosecution. More time and money was spent investigating the Monica
Lewinsky affair than has been spent investigating one of the biggest corporate rip-offs in history.

I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed.

I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history.

I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.

I appointed more convicted criminals to administration posts than any President in U.S. history.

I created the Ministry of Homeland Security, the largest bureaucracy in the history of the U.S. government.

I've broken more international treaties than any President in U.S. history.

I am the first President in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission.

I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law.

I refused to allow inspector's access to U.S. "prisoners of war" detainees and thereby have refused to abide by the Geneva Convention.

I am the first President in history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. election).

I set the record for least number of press conferences of any President since the advent of television.

I set the presidential all-time record for most days on vacation in any one-year period.

After taking off the entire month of August, I presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history.

I garnered the most sympathy for the U.S. after the World Trade Center attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the most hated country in the world.

I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million people), shattering the record for
protest against any person in the history of mankind.

I am the first President in U.S. history to order an unprovoked, pre-emptive attack and the military occupation of a sovereign nation. I did so against the will of the United Nations, the majority of U.S. citizens, and the world community.

I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut in duty benefits for active duty troops and their families - in war time.

In my State of the Union address, I lied about our reasons for attacking Iraq and then blamed the lies on our British friends.

I am the first President in history to have a majority of Europeans (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and security.

I am supporting development of a nuclear "Tactical Bunker Buster," a WMD (weapon of mass destruction).

I have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to bring Osama Bin Laden to justice.

RECORDS AND REFERENCES:

All records of my tenure as governor of Texas are now in my father's library sealed and unavailable for public view.

All records of SEC investigations into my insider trading and my bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.

All records or minutes from meetings that I, or my Vice-President, attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for
public review.

PLEASE CONSIDER MY EXPERIENCE WHEN VOTING IN 2004.”

“Kerry will say anything to get elected President. Kerry voted against ratify the Kyoto Global Warming Treaty. If Kerry was really serious about doing something for the environment, he would join President Bush and his call for funding hydrogen fuel technology, Clear Skies (Bush's market-based air pollution reduction plan) and healthy forests.

If the terrorist were a little later in the morning, and a little lower in flying the planes into the World Trade Center, the death count would have been 50,000. Kerry's flip flopping environmental stances won't help any Americans have a greener environment if they are dead. That's why I'm voting for Bush.”

“Hey Strat....that jihad Bush schtick you're peddling is...well, down-right stupid. I don't think it's working for you. You see.....it just doesn't make sense buddy. Kinda like that Seinfeld episode where Gorege Castanza insisted on using the "Jerk Store" joke to zing a guy.

I'm trying to picture my 84 yr old WWII veteran father, a red-blooded solid American as a jihadi (whatever). It's ridiculous. Come on dewd. Get a new cute phrase with which to attempt to skewer liberals.

If your out of intellectual gas so to speak don't retreat into innuendo and non-sensical cute phrases.”

“I think you are voting for Bush because you are a complete idiot.”

“I don't agree with everything Bush does..maybe 60%...With Kerry I agree with about 20% of his core issues, so the choice is easy for me.”

“Buddha Bear, are you suggesting an IQ test to screen people before allowing them to vote for the candidate of their choice. That was tried and it worked. It was called a Florida Butterfly Ballot. Ha Ha Ha.”

“Have any of you folks been ANWR or the Arctic zone for that matter, it's purdy alright,,,pretty desolate,, Frozen solid for over 300 days and swarmin' with skeeters the remaining days. I'm still scratchin' my azz just thinking about it. You literally have to wait till you're 'crowning out' before you drop and squat.

Good times!

There has been a lot of ink spilled about ANWR, pro and con. Before we really think about putting that 'footprint' up there I would like to see further studies regarding it's oil reserve and cost in dollars to consumers and environment,, now and for the future. The impact has lessened greatly since yesteryear but what is the cost of that impact now or 20 yrs. from now? We're gonna have to eventually find an alternative fuel to drive the human race. Use what we got to fuel that 'coming' technology.

I would like to believe that both Bush and Cheney enjoy the outdoors. They only enjoy it differently than how many of us enjoy the outdoors. I betcha they actually 'kinda' care about the environment. The both hunt and fish, don't they?

They know the relevance of this issue. They ain't that stupid.”

“I have never voted for Bush & never will. Wouldn't vote for his father either. His is a criminal family grown very wealthy on tax dollars. Bush Jr is the worst president we ever had & belongs in jail. History someday will expose all that he has done.”

“New thoughts

Car engines could be adapted to run on alcohol made from corn and our farmers wouldn't be selling out to developers every day.
If we lose all of our farmers because we import beef, wheat, etc., and they can't make a living we will be dependent on other countries for food sometime in the future and they can then hold us hostage for what ever they want from us.
Fossil fuel will eventually run out anyway. Maybe not in our time but it will run out as we are using it much faster than it can be made.
Those oil rich deserts once had to be filled with lush vegetation and the rain forests today are being destroyed so where will fossil fuel come from?”

“Why do Democrats always demonize Bush, but never promote John Kerry?

As for my facts on ANWAR, I was a bit flippant. I knew there were caribou, but I think that most Polar Bears den on the ice packs.

I am more familiar with the econonmy so I am not surprised that no one questioned those facts. I just wish the Democrats would stop telling lies about why the economy is where it is and why it is getting better.”

“Our farmers can GROW motor fuel.

Soy, hemp seed, rape seed and other seed crops can yield clean-burning renewable fuels.

We can cut the bonds of the petro-business.

These fuels can be produced regionally and employ Americans and revive the farm economy.

Rudolph Diesel first demonstrated his engine with peanut oil.

It is my understanding that legume crops put nitrogen in the soil instead of removing it.
That would eliminate some of the nutrient run-off polution that is ruining such treasures as the Chesapeake Bay here in Maryland.

Jihadi, jihadi, yada, yada, yadi !!!!!”

“traillady, corn take nitrogen from the soil......something to think about.

The petro business bullied their way into making diesel engines run on petro diesel fuel in the early 20th century thus ensuring our dependence on their industry.

The Bush family has been part of that cabal for the better part of 100 years.
They have taken enough of our money.
Its time for change.”

“Peanuts are fine, too.
Let OPEC drink the oil.”

“they threw a fit about the alaska pipeline too. now there are more carabou than ever cuz they thrive around it cuz it's warm.


jo, jihad means holy war, which is what is going on here in the sence that you are on an all out asault on this man. completely overwhelming the truth with any suggestion , any halftruth, any outright lie, anything you can come up with you makehim look bad. i don't give a crap what you think about it. in fact, since it annoys you, i'll use the term even more often than before,in your honor. take a bow, jo.



John Kerry has promised
to take the country back from the wealthy. And who better than
a guy worth $700 million to take the country back from the wealthy?
***Leno”

“One would think this administration and their supporters would rather avoid any mention of lies.

Ya Know? LOLOL




Old what's his butt on Crossfire has a great line. Cracks me up Every Time....

"George Bush is a Great Guy! Horrible President! But a Great Guy!"

-- Paul Begala”

“ah man tilt , that was precious...[eyeroll]”

“Sorry if I sounded like a Bush defender here. His energy policy is incredibly weak.

What is beyond doubt is that we are very dependent on energy from unstable places. This has made us do some very undemocratic things in the Middle East and elsewhere.

And the solution is not a choice between "green" sources and increased fossil fuel exploration. It seems to me that the solution is ALL of the choices.

We need more oil sources and more "green" sources. We need more nuke plants and more ethanol. We need to explore for natural gas and diminish our desire for fuels.

But if we could eliminate the root causes for our problems in the Middle East, I'd sacrifice a few polar bears in ANWR. That would be a reasonable choice.”

“There is not enough oil in ANWR to help us much and all of the Alaska oil at the present is going to Japan because that is more profitable.
There is no guarantee that we would get a drop of ANWR oil.
All it will do is give one of the big oil companies more profit.”

“traillady, is profit a bad thing?

have you ever profited from goods or services you provided? like, say...a job you do or ssomething?”

“"jo, jihad means holy war......."

For the last friggin' time:

NO IT DOESN'T!

Jihad MEANS STRUGGLE!!

YOU USE IT OUT OF MEANING!

Damn! put some sence back in that noggin', for crying out LOUD! I kow your dense, but C'MON!”

“I have nothing against profit but why tear up a wildlife reserve and send the oil to Japan?”