New wrinkle on illegal immigration

“slavery was a "temporary worker program". it was wrong then and it's wrong now. i can't support any program that legitimizes a class of "sub citizen" for the benefit of the citizen class. Our forefathers were sub-citizens to King George III and look what they thought...

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. —Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain [George III] is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world. ”

“Good morning americans, show me your green cards.”

““slavery was a "temporary worker program". it was wrong then and it's wrong now. i can't support any program that legitimizes a class of "sub citizen" for the benefit of the citizen class. Our forefathers were sub-citizens to King George III and look what they thought...


So I am guessing any program that basically treated the individual as a cog to be used for a certain purpose would get your overwhelming OPPOSITION?


Here you go. A program where they are paid to do ONE thing...Vote in an election to ensure that the POWER brokers stay in power. In return they get free money, free housing free food all at a basic subsistence level. They live in neighborhoods where life is often short brutish and harsh. Any attempt to better your position in life or escape is beaten down by the others around you or is dissuaded by removal of assistance.”

“Sounds like they are going to create another version of the H1B Visa.”

“Brian Dorgan was kicking ass on C-SPAN2 yesterday ---

Cloture vote failed and more amendments are piling up. Reid has been quoted saying the bill is toast. The cowards are voting by voice ----

We shall see.”

“I look at it like this; come here legally, speak the language (this is Amarica, speak english), stop flying the mexican flag, and obey our laws. If you don't want to live as an American then go back where you came from, period! I echo the earlier words, What about ILLIGAL do so many not understand??
I was in Mexicali a few months ago and I had my worker visa (what a twist, we let them come here and take jobs without visas but if I didn't have mine I would be deported) I had to get a green card. One day a few of us were going across the border to San Diego and in an hour waiting in line we saw 5 guys come over the wall (back into mexico), get in a car and take off. We saw two guys help a female over and when she hit the ground she was makin' tracks but border patroll got her, I'm sure she is here now. Then, not 100 yards from the check point, two guys helped another guy over and when he hit the ground he took off into an appartment complex. That was only one hour out of one day in only about 3 miles, how bad do you think it realy is?
This issue will not be handled the way that the American citizens want, the politicans make too much money to do it our way.”

“Does anyone else here think its time to replace them ALL. It used to be there were a couple you really would hate to see go...but MAN I would like to fire them all.”

“To clarify: Dorgan is a Democrat, but he doesn't support this monstrosity.”

“yeah, sure.”

“".....stop flying the mexican flag,..."

Can I still fly my Irish flag?”

“Only if you let me have a sip of your Guinness.”

“When CNN and FOX ,all over the world, show illegal employers and employees being cuffed and wheeled off in wagons will the fences of this country stop shaking from this rattling invasion.”

“You can wave the Irish flag all you want... as long as I don't have to read Gaelic at the ATM.


Is fearrde thú fast cash?”

“When the Border Patrol can see arresting wetbacks and busting the employers as a possible Profit plan you will see the arrests rising.

Make it $100,000 per illegal (plus expenses for arrest/transport/detention etc) and make it to where if Pedro has his wife and three kids we count that as FIVE crimes and nail the corporations with it.

(the term WETBACK is used to refer to criminals aliens, not the legal aliens)”

“Does hell have sales tax?”

“the term "wetback" is a disparaging racist slur regardless of your attempt to characterize it otherwise. the slur is used to refer to undocumented Mexican/Central American immigrants that wade across the Rio Grande and in the process get their back wet. it's like Senator Robert Byrd's (D-WV) use of the term, n*gger in the phrase "white n*gger", trying to justify it and later apologizing.

personally i don't care if you use this slur in your posts but it's clear you feel the need to defend yourself, hence your comment in parens. so you clearly recognize the use of the term is controversial and will be seen as a slur by a many (dare I say most?) people on TT.”

“Dictionary.com - "wetback"

n. Offensive Slang
Used as a disparaging term for a Mexican, especially a laborer who crosses the U.S. border illegally.
[From the fact that the Rio Grande is a common entry point.]

noun
(ethnic slur) offensive term for a person of Mexican descent [syn: greaser]”

“Yes you can mARKo, as long as you don't fly it above the American flag or fly the American flag upside down! I am not against heritage but I am against cultures trying to replace our American heritage. That goes for the rewriting of our own American history but that needs it's own thread.
BRING BACK THE ROTARY PHONE SO I DON'T HAVE TO DIAL 1 TO PROCEED IN ENGLISH!!!!”

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“Does hell have sales tax?”
uncliffk

I believe that they do. "Because of Michigan's climate, Hell "freezes over" every winter, ..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell,_Michigan

"Hell, Michigan is an unincorporated community with a population of 266, located in Putnam Township, in Livingston County, and in the U.S."

# Pictures of Hell Michigan”

“That would be 6% sales tax in Hell, just like the rest of the state.”

“I don't see a problem with flying the Stars & Stripes inverted.  After all, the inverted ensign is a widely recognised and historic signal to indicate that your vessel is in distress and requests assistance from any and all quarters.

(... though a tad archaic in these days of EPIRBs and whatnot)



Note:  If your ensign is vertically symmetrical, Tie a Knot In It.
last edited: 6/09/07 12:32:41 PM”

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"I know of no printed authority now in existence for the use of the British Red Ensign upside down generally as a signal of distress for the Merchant Navy. In quite recent times, on the other hand, it has been used in the Royal Navy as a local signal at various dockyard ports, either with or without other flags or shapes, to denote "establishment on fire" or some other such purport, ... "

Sea Flags — Their General Use (1938)
Commander Hilary Mead

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“Upside-down flag is a distress signal. I thought this was pretty common knowledge.”

“I thought the "establishment on fire" was a nice touch....

I suppose you could wear your lapel pin inverted as a political statement, *G*”

“I totally missed the reference to "Sheets" Byrd...lets see former GRAND WIZARD OF THE KKK....who has made some incredibly horrible statements..things that made Trent Lott look like a PARKING ticket...and he is....Senate Pro Tem???”

“i have an american flag lapel pin i wear on my jean jacket. it i don't press it in really tight the flag rotates and i get comments about it once in a while. people do notice stuff like that. i think that's interesting.”

“Here is a nifty idea, lets treat illegals the SAME way Mexico treats them...YEAH.”

“That's one of the problems XL, the US is begining to treat its' own citizens
too much as mexico has been and is treating their own. what is the name of thatb church that's in the thick of this thing from both sides of the border?
last edited: 6/11/07 9:31:11 AM”

“US beginning to treat its own citizens like mexico....okay examples please?”

“The rich are richer -the poor are poorer, sure fits the mexican mold. Tell me a story about the libbies, WWII and the people that get a government checks, don't know crap.”

“a must listen to

http://www.forthecause.us/media/ftc-video-CNN-AmnestyBillsWorstProvisions_07
0523.wmv”

“yo ewker!”

“I see my link screwed up, just copy and paste...sorry about that


hey Birch, how are you?”

“This may be the week that will tell the tale of the great american dream. Will slavery be validated as a legitimate american business tactic?”

“How can 22% have no opinion on the potential immigration bill.”

“Rumour-mill (cable news) reporting Georgia senators reversing 180°.  Will call tomorrow in the AM to hopefully confirm and discuss stick/carrots.

Lindsay should have stayed with his strong suit.... expertise re: Executive Branch blowjobs.”

“You must "Know your targeted audience."

Jose and Carlos (two criminals from MEHICO) are panhandling at the freeway off-ramp, each holding a sign. Jose drives a Mercedes, lives in a mortgage free house and has a lot of money to spend. Carlos only brings in 2 to 3 dollars a day. Carlos asks Jose how he can bring home a suitcase full of $10 bills every day.

Jose says, "Look at your sign."

I have no work, a wife & 6 kids to support.



"Now look at mine." Carlos looks at Jose's sign.
I only need another $10.00 to move back to Mexico ”

“xl hates wetbacks”

“and tree pretended to be one ;)”

“a wannabe wetback?”

“one that had his bareback fingerboarded.”

“ewwwwwww”

“I don't make these things up. I just post 'em as I see 'em.”

“Hate Criminals....NAAAAAH...infact I think it is obvious that we are NEVER going to stop crime. I mean look at it. Good Cops die, Good people die...and the criminals keep walking away.

I say we hold a conference, discuss their needs...money? Yeah we can get that.

RAPE, heck there are slews of "invisible kids" we could give them..."IF THEY WILL JUST LEAVE US ALONE."”

“The senate is playing a game with this amnesty joke. The single purpose of all this bull is to give amnesty to the illegal employers. As with the 'drug war' ,spend trillions to avoid blaming the true criminals ; the citizens who buy the drugs and employ the illegals.”

“agreed....I think they thought the average Joe wouldn't care. The only power the senators were worried about was BIG BUSINESS>”

“The vote is happening right now.”

“Be sure to contact your leaders and demand they listen to their people and not their parties.

http://www.senate.gov/”