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Don't forget to change your clocks.
Phaedrus
4:49:30 PM
4/02/04

I'm looking forward to it. The sun streaming through my windows at 5:30AM keeps waking me up, and I'm tired of it.

DST is better for some places than others, and where I live is one of those places.
bitpusher
4:51:45 PM
4/02/04

Of of those places or the other places?
Phaedrus
4:52:43 PM
4/02/04

I love it.
must hike
4:53:31 PM
4/02/04

Why the heck do we have daylight savings time anymore? Blasphemy!
Dub
4:54:08 PM
4/02/04

Of those places.
bitpusher
4:54:50 PM
4/02/04

28 Hour Day
We just need to get on the 28 hour day. No need for 24 hours or daylight savings time anymore.
Dub
4:55:38 PM
4/02/04

Why don't we have DST all year long?
NoProb
4:56:17 PM
4/02/04

Are you sure you're not in an "other" place?

Daylight savings time should be the same all year round.
Phaedrus
4:56:20 PM
4/02/04

What do you mean it sucks? I'm in favor of having a month of Super daylight savings time (bump it ahead another hour in June).
Violin
4:57:27 PM
4/02/04

It's definitely a plus for me. If we didn't go on DST, by the summer solstice, the damn sun would probably come up before 5:00AM.

I live about, oh, 50 miles west of the Eastern Time Zone.

When we go back to Standard time, suddenly the sun is going down at 5:00PM. Yuck.
bitpusher
4:59:06 PM
4/02/04

Ban violin.
Phaedrus
4:59:48 PM
4/02/04

Daylight savings time is a hidden tax. The government steals an hour of your time every spring. Bastards.
Phaedrus
5:00:59 PM
4/02/04

I agree with Violin.
must hike
5:01:16 PM
4/02/04

Ban Must Hike.
Phaedrus
5:03:07 PM
4/02/04

"28 Hour Day"

I don't think that would make my circadian rythms happy.
bison
5:06:18 PM
4/02/04

Actually the days are getting longer all the time as the earths rotation continues to slow down.
must hike
5:08:22 PM
4/02/04

Actually bison, I first learned about the 28 hour day in Psychology. Your bio-rhythms would be better suited by a 28 hour day which was developed from natural sleep/wake cycles when time was deprived from test subjects.
Dub
5:10:23 PM
4/02/04

Yeah, if we live for several thousand years we'll have to make some major adjustments.
bison
5:10:43 PM
4/02/04

hmmm, Dub, I need to think about that one. I don't doubt that research might find that. But it seems rather intuitive that we'd be better suited to the sunrise/sunset concept of a day.
bison
5:12:45 PM
4/02/04

The 28 hour day will never happen on Earth while we do set our day to the sunrise and sunset. However, in space and submarines it might make more sense to be on a more natural 28 hour day.
Dub
5:15:51 PM
4/02/04

And Phaedrus I'll save you from me calling you a dick when you ask for a source as this book was the one we used. ;-)
Dub
5:20:01 PM
4/02/04

I already knew that, dub ;)
Phaedrus
5:22:05 PM
4/02/04

Sidereal Time:




Actually, the change in the Fall is cool. Losing an hour sucks.
Tilt
5:34:44 PM
4/02/04

Lose an hour, gain a friend!
Buddha Bear
6:32:33 PM
4/02/04

Daylight savings time cuts into al-Phaedy's peeping tom hobby.

I hear he likes to watch small boys while licking his eyebrows and breathing through his tear ducts.
Miss Anne Thrope
8:08:01 PM
4/02/04

Personally, I really like the time change in the summer, the sun won't set till almost 9:00 by June, 8:00 now (after sunday). I love the long days.

And I'm with bit, damn sun coming up at 5:30 sucks out loud!
Roam Around
8:12:26 PM
4/02/04

Ban clocks and bras.
uncliff
8:39:52 PM
4/02/04

All I can say is...

When that 8 AM Spring Quarter calculus class turned into a 7 AM... I coulda killed somebody, LOL

No remorse. Coldblooded. Completely pre-meditated. No problem.
Tilt
8:42:29 PM
4/02/04

I need DST to be able to ride my bike home from work. I get out at 6:30 and have to go 18 miles. I don't mind a partial darkness ride, but starting in the dark is too much. So, hurray for DST! Death to the infidels who oppose it!
Slugman
11:58:40 PM
4/02/04

Silly humans:

Trying to alter the nature of reality to suit their petty preferences.... Ha!



Donald Savage
Headquarters, Washington April 2, 2004
(Phone: 202/358-1727)

Steve Roy
Marshall Space Flight Center, Huntsville, Ala.
(Phone: 256/544-6535)

Robert Kahn
Stanford University, Stanford, Calif.
(Phone: 650/723-2540)

RELEASE: 04-109

WORLD'S MOST PRECISE GYROSCOPES READY TO TEST EINSTEIN THEORY

A NASA spacecraft designed to test two important
predictions of Albert Einstein's general theory of relativity
is set to launch from Vandenberg Air Force Base, Calif., at
1:09 p.m. EDT, April 17.

NASA's Gravity Probe B mission, also known as GP-B, will use
four ultra-precise gyroscopes, orbiting the Earth in a unique
satellite, to experimentally test two extraordinary
predictions of Einstein's 1916 theory that space and time are
distorted by the presence of massive objects. The two effects
being tested are: The geodetic effect, the amount by which
the Earth warps local spacetime in which it resides, and the
frame-dragging effect, the amount by which the Earth drags
local spacetime around with it as it rotates.

"Gravity Probe-B has the potential to uncover fundamental
properties of the invisible universe, a universe which seems
very bizarre and alien to our everyday perceptions yet one
that Einstein tried to show us almost a century ago," said
Dr. Anne Kinney, director of the Astronomy and Physics
Division in NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington.
"Testing the key aspects of Einstein's theory, such as GP-B
will do, will provide crucial information to science just as
it has already helped America by pushing technological
progress in developing the tools needed for these ultra-
precise measurements," she added

Once placed in its polar orbit of 640 kilometers (400 miles)
above Earth, GP-B will circle the globe every 97.5 minutes,
crossing over both poles. In-orbit checkout and calibration
is scheduled to last 40-60 days, followed by a 13-month
science-data acquisition period and a two-month post-science
period for calibrations.

To test the general theory of relativity, GP-B will monitor
any drift in the gyroscopes' spin axis alignment in relation
to its guide star, IM Pegasi (HR 8703). Over the course of a
year, the anticipated spin axis drift for the geodetic effect
is a minuscule angle of 6,614.4 milliarcseconds, and the
anticipated spin axis drift for the frame-dragging effect is
even smaller, only 40.9 milliarcseconds. To illustrate the
size of the angles, if you climbed a slope of 40.9
milliarcseconds for 100 miles, you would rise only one inch
in altitude.

During the mission, data from GP-B will be received a minimum
of two times each day. Earth-based ground stations or NASA's
data relay satellites can receive the information.
Controllers will be able to communicate with GP-B from the
Mission Operations Center at Stanford University.

Data will include space vehicle and instrument performance,
as well as the very precise measurements of the gyroscopes'
spin-axis orientation. By 2005 the GP-B mission will be
complete, and a one-year period is planned for scientific
analysis of the data.

"Developing GP-B has been a supreme challenge requiring the
skillful integration of an extraordinary range of new
technologies," said Professor Francis Everitt of Stanford
University, and the GP-B principal investigator. "It is hard
to see how it could have been done without the kind of unique
long-term collaboration that we have had between Stanford,
Lockheed Martin, and NASA. It is wonderful to be ready for
launch," he said.

NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center, Huntsville, Ala.,
manages the GP-B program. NASA's prime contractor for the
mission, Stanford University, conceived the experiment and is
responsible for the design and integration of the science
instrument, as well as for mission operations and data
analysis. Lockheed Martin, a major subcontractor, designed,
integrated and tested the spacecraft and some of its major
payload components. NASA's Kennedy Space Center, Fla., and
Boeing Expendable Launch Systems, Huntington Beach, Calif.,
are responsible for the countdown and launch of the Delta II.

The launch from Vandenberg will be broadcast live on NASA
Television on the AMC-9 satellite, transponder 9C, located at
85 degrees West longitude, vertical polarization, frequency
3880.megahertz, audio 6.8 megahertz. Information about launch
events and video will be carried on a NASA website called the
Virtual Launch Control Center at:

http://www.ksc.nasa.gov/elvnew/gpb/vlcc.htm


For information about the GP-B mission on the Internet,
visit:

http://einstein.stanford.edu/

http://www.gravityprobeb.com

-end-
Tilt
8:28:18 AM
4/03/04

To test the general theory of relativity, GP-B will monitor
any drift in the gyroscopes' spin axis alignment in relation
to its guide star, IM Pegasi (HR 8703). Over the course of a
year, the anticipated spin axis drift for the geodetic effect
is a minuscule angle of 6,614.4 milliarcseconds, and the
anticipated spin axis drift for the frame-dragging effect is
even smaller, only 40.9 milliarcseconds. To illustrate the
size of the angles, if you climbed a slope of 40.9
milliarcseconds for 100 miles, you would rise only one inch
in altitude.
Tilt
8:33:36 AM
4/03/04

damn
ScorchFire
8:41:31 AM
4/03/04

Dat's some killer altitude dere!
Tilt
8:48:22 AM
4/03/04

ditto

as Steve Martin would say, "Let's Get Small, Let's Get Really Small"
Roam Around
8:48:40 AM
4/03/04

when did he say that?
ScorchFire
8:49:56 AM
4/03/04

1976?
Tilt
8:55:52 AM
4/03/04

yeah, thereabouts in the mid 70's.

He crawled inside a vacume cleaner in one of his stand up routines.
Roam Around
9:03:06 AM
4/03/04

i think you're making it up
ScorchFire
9:11:48 AM
4/03/04

of course, how would i know, i wasn't born yet : )
ScorchFire
9:12:10 AM
4/03/04

I Feel Like Jackson Mississippi
My head hurts.

Can we talk about DST later?
Buddur
9:19:40 AM
4/03/04

Those were the days……….


Grandmother's Song

Thank you. You know folks, when I was a
kid, I was pretty close to my grandmother and she used to
sing a song to me when I was about this high. It always
meant something to me and I'd like to do it for you right now
because it does have meaning in today's world even . . . all
these years, you know those, even during the "hip drug
days" you know when everybody was supposed to be so
cool and everything had double meanings and this little
simple tune would keep coming back to me and I think it
kinda guided me through those years and I'd like to do this
song for you right now, I think it might have a little meaning
for you, so here it goes.


Be courteous, kind and forgiving,
Be gentle and peaceful each day,
Be warm and human and grateful,
And have a good thing to say.

Be thoughtful and trustful and childlike,
Be witty and happy and wise,
Be honest and love all your neighbours,
Be obsequious, purple, and clairvoyant.

Be pompus, obese, and eat cactus,
Be dull, and boring, and omnipresent,
Criticize things you don't know about,
Be oblong and have your knees removed.

Be tasteless, rude, and offensive,
Live in a swamp and be three dimentional,
Put a live chicken in your underwear,
Get all excited and go to a yawning festival.

O.K. everybody!

Be courteous, kind and forgiving,
Be gentle and peaceful each day,
Be warm and human and grateful,
And have a good thing to say.

Be thoughtful and trustful and childlike,
(O.K. everybody on this!)
Be witty and happy and wise,
Be honest and love all your neighbors,

Be obsequious, purple, and clairvoyant.
(Let 'em hear you outside!)
Be pompus, obese, and eat cactus,
(Everybody sing!)
Be dull, and boring, and omnipresent,
Criticize things you don't know about,
Be oblong and have your knees removed.

(Ladies only)
Be tasteless, rude, and offensive,
(Now the men)
Live in a swamp and be three dimentional,
(Everybody)
Put a live chicken in your underwear,
Go into a closet and suck eggs.


You guys are going to be on a record. Maybe - someday.
Not mine of course.



Steve Martin
Let's get Small (1977)

Tilt
9:47:53 AM
4/03/04

<GRRRrrrrrrrrrrr>
Tilt
9:49:51 AM
4/03/04



test.
Tilt
9:51:06 AM
4/03/04

I hate DST. I can never adjust to it.
treebait
10:15:11 AM
4/03/04

I used to have that record, my Mom didn't get the jokes.

lol
Roam Around
10:20:16 AM
4/03/04

In my experience with Parental Units, some jokes are better left ungotten ---
Tilt
10:34:24 AM
4/03/04

yeah, exactly!
Roam Around
10:48:37 AM
4/03/04

2 days on this new clock...and I am still not awake.
clem35yeah
6:37:57 AM
4/05/04

Spring forward Clem,the birds are singing and flowers blooming and it's time to pay TAXES!!!!!!
uncliff
8:47:16 PM
4/05/04

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