Poll: Bush's position against Kerry stre ngthens

“Just a 'Balance the books post'

Latest CNN Poll shows Bush growing against Kerry

CNN Poll report

(snip) Among likely voters surveyed, 51 percent said they would choose Bush for president, while 47 percent said they would vote for Kerry...

(snip)
Part of the reason for the shift is that a more equal number of Democrats and Republicans now say they are likely to vote this year. In earlier polls taken in the heat of the primary season, Democrats had expressed more enthusiasm about voting than Republicans, which buoyed Kerry's numbers among likely voters.

Some of the staunch Democrats and "anybody but Bush" posters would have you believe the entire Country agreed with them with their propensity to post every news snippet that agrees with their hopes. Apparently that is not the case and George has no need to start packing at this time.

Information that only presents one side of an argument is called propaganda.

This indicates that as of the last poll it will be a close race and probably decided, like so many elections, on which party is more successful in getting out the vote, or which party loses the most to Nader.

I suspect that given how close the race is that Nader will get almost nothing and the voters will polarize around the 2 main candidates.”

“Too many threads, we should have one election thread to keep track of this stuff.”

“So the poll was taken after Clarke's testimony but before the Fallujah attacks?”

“I expect that is the case Violin, but I doubt Fallujah is going to move the polls any. There have been polls as to support for the war since then, and they hadn't moved.”

“These polls are going to vary so many times between now and election day, folks...”

“Bush doesn't have to be ahead to win the election in the electoral college. He just has to trail reasonably close, and he will coast to re-election. But it is great news that he is actually leading. This election can turn into a rout.”

“Yea guys if you're married you should know all about mood swings.”

“Amen to that, but there fun to look at and discuss as long as we realize that they don't mean much until right before the election, and even then only if one candidate has a lead well outside the margin of error. Attitudes can swing back and forth in a big hurry.”

“...Let's take one of Prosecutor's quotes out of context!

"Bush doesn't have to be ahead to win the election
prosecutor
03:32:48 PM

There, now THAT was fun!!!”

“Prosecutor does have a point though, very convienent how reapportionment worked out. Bush doesn't even have to win all the states he won last time to win the election.”

“Too many threads

I agree Bison, but only one side seems to be getting posted.

Actually I am sure that those interested can find their own news and the constant posting of all the news from one viewpoint does get tiring.

It is hard to take any political post here seriously as we have polar opposites participating and almost every thread degenrates into childish namecalling after a short time.

In my more frivolous moments I occasionally post something absolutely ridiculous in an obvious troll just to see how many people are unable to see that if a post is stupid enough, maybe, just maybe the poster is joking and having a little fun.

It is sort of like catching sunfish though, so easy that there is no sport in it.”

“Stop a head.”

“WoW! Too bad you Bushies are claiming this as a "victory" that the polls reflect him gaining, or just passing Kerry. For one, Kerry has no running mate and two, if Bush is such a great President, then why is it even this close. Please, don't try the "but the libs are smearing him" drool.

Let's face it, if Bush was a great as what you guys make him out to be, this conversation would be happening.

Also, I have to seriously disagree that the recent attacks will not affect Bush in the polls. Bush is soft of terror, people. The fact that Spain ousted it's pro American/Iraqi action, then took action against the terrorists shows that they might have the right idea.

So, in fact, Terrorism did not "win" in Spain, as the futile Stratdewd would claim, it was delt a blow!

Get over it, Bushies. This sad ass excuse of a President couldn't hold the other former Presidents jock, let alone be re-elected......maybe to Waterboy, but not for the main game.

Get Down!”

“"this conversation would be happening.........."


Should read "WOULDN'T be happening"........


Kerry on!”

“Shows you how that huge amount of time GW has spend fundraising, rather than running the country, can give you the cash to influence the political process ;op”

“the house is on vacation for one more week, when they get back, it'll be different..... The polls only go forward in Bush's favor when the majority of the stupid public isn't reminded of "read my lips, Weapons of Mass Distraction"”

“This WHOLE Bush mantra is old. Bush bashing has gotten old as well. He just gives up new material too easily. I like to work for it, not lofted like a softball.

Everything y'all say about Kerry, could be said about Bush as well. Yep, I'd bet that the only person that has taken more special interest money than Kerry, is Bush, so that's not a good defense.

And it's really too bad that Kerry has a voting record a mile long, from hi many, many years in Government, as opposed to Mr. Bush, who could only count his LemonAide stand and the rip off job he did as Governor.”

“With all the political ads that GW is bashing us over the head with, I would say he had better raise more money. He sounds a tad bit desperate.
GW's unholy hankering for Sadaam will be his undoing.”

“i guess we'll see who won next february.”

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“Manuka - Posting facts and going fishing are two different things.”

“"It is hard to take any political post here seriously as we have polar opposites participating and almost every thread degenrates into childish namecalling after a short time............"



I'd pratice what you preach.”

“I'm sure the dismissals will start in


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“It's a typo red is supposed to equal satisfied!

They only polled union strikers.

Sean Hannity says that everybody loves Bush, so it can't be correct.

[Insert Stratdewd cut and paste from some dude named Borzt here]”

“There may yet be hope for civilization.”

“62% Say World Better If More Like USA

64% Say American Society Generally Fair and Decent

April 27, 2004--More than six-out-of-ten American voters believe the USA is a good role model for the rest of the world.

A Rasmussen Reports survey found that 64% of voters believe that American society is generally fair and decent. Additionally, 62% believe the world would be a better place if other countries became more like the United States.

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Must not be TOO bad here! :^D”

“New at Snopes.com

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Claim: Arab/Islamic states consistently vote against the U.S. in the United Nations.

Status: True.

How they vote at the U.N.!

Below are the actual voting records of various Arabic/Islamic States which are recorded in both the US State Department and United Nations records:

Kuwait votes against the United States 67% of the time.
Qatar votes against the United States 67% of the time.
Morocco votes against the United States 70% of the time.
United Arab Emirates votes against the U. S. 70% of the time.
Jordan votes against the United States 71% of the time.
Tunisia votes against the United States 71% of the time.
Saudi Arabia votes against the United States 73% of the time.
Yemen votes against the United States 74% of the time.
Algeria votes against the United States 74% of the time.
Oman votes against the United States 74% of the time.
Sudan votes against the United States 75% of the time.
Pakistan votes against the United States 75% of the time.
Libya votes against the United States 76% of the time.
Egypt votes against the United States 79% of the time.
Lebanon votes against the United States 80% of the time.
India votes against the United States 81% of the time.
Syria votes against the United States 84% of the time.
Mauritania votes against the United States 87% of the time.

US Foreign Aid to those that hate us:

Egypt, for example, after voting 79% of the time against the United States, still receives $2 billion annually in US Foreign Aid.

Jordan votes 71% against the United States and receives $192,814,000 annually in US Foreign Aid.

Pakistan votes 75% against the United States receives $6,721,000 annually in US Foreign Aid.

India votes 81% against the United States receives $143,699,000 annually

Perhaps it is time to get out of the UN and give the tax savings back to the American workers who are having to skimp and sacrifice to pay the taxes.

Pass it along. Everyone needs to know this. Might even mention it to your congressman, who knows this anyway... what a disgrace... no wonder the world has no respect for us.

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/unvote.asp”

“Non?

Meet Sequitur!”

“Q- the problem for Kerry is that although there was an increase in those who were dissatisified with the direction of the country, there was also a decrease in Kerrey's positive rating, so No increase in strength for Kerrey against Bush in the election.”

“That comes later.”

“"Claim: Arab/Islamic states consistently vote against the U.S. in the United Nations........."

That's because they hate self-rightous American's, such as yourself.”

“"Q- the problem for Kerry is that although there was an increase in those who were dissatisified with the direction of the country, there was also a decrease in Kerrey's positive rating, so No increase in strength for Kerrey against Bush in the election....."


IF there has ever been a shout out from the public for a third party, this is it. Someone smart would capitalize on this.”

“That's because they hate self-rightous American's, such as yourself.

Wow, I must be more popular at the United Nations than I thought!”

“GOOOOooOOOOooOOO NADER!”

“"Wow, I must be more popular at the United Nations than I thought!...."


I wouldn't give yourself that much credit there, Alice.

You're just the poster child example of what everyone see as American. Hardcore Christian, wrapped in the American flag, and stuffed up yer ass.”

“God bless America where at least I know I'm free... To oversimplify every issue I hear of and circulate my meritless opinions to other oversimplifiers via email so they can use in on message boards. Land of the free, baybeee!”

“Hey, if you're gonna go stuffing things up my a$$, can I be a softcore Christian instead of a hardcore one? I don't like hard things up there. Thank you for understanding in this most critical matter.”

“To oversimplify every issue I hear of and circulate my meritless opinions to other oversimplifiers via email so they can use in on message boards.

For pete's sake, can't we just leave Violin out of this?”

“Considering that the Bush campaign just spent a gigantic pile of money advertising against Kerry, it's not unreasonable that his poll numbers might be down.

Kerry is largely an unknown quantity. If he gets his act together his numbers have the possibility of going way up.

Bush is what he is. After four years nothing much is going to push his numbers up. And the Iraqis are not likely to start holding hands and singing songs of peace anytime soon.

I'm still holding out for John McCain as Vice President. I think that the Democrats are unified and ready to go. They'll take a Republican or convert VP.

It could reorder the electorate and make the Republicans the marginal, myopic Conservative party that they yearn to be.”

“McCain as VP for Kerry - That would be superb, It would so fracture the party that the damage would linger for quite a while.

Reformed lurker thinks that the Dems would accept this?

The Dems are wedded to the Pro-abortion movement, McCain is Anti-abortion, gauranteed uproar.”

“"They'll take a Republican or convert VP........"

A Kerry/McCain - Kerry/Clark ticket would pound Bush/Chaney in a frickin` heartbeat.

I've been wondering why Kerry hasn't rolled on that whole "did you serve yer duty in the Guard" thing......They be waiting. Can't shoot that wad just yet, until ya gets the other Vet VP on board.

y'all are in troubbbbbbbbleeeee!”

“Yeah, I'm thinking Kerry/Clark could be the real deal. Sure would make the chickenhawk ticket look like, well, chickenhawks.”

“to the top?”

“Really, a Kerry/anybody else ticket would kick the phuck outta them!


I think it's encouraging to the Kerryites out there that Bush and Dick are this low in the polls, compared to a canidate that doesn't have a VP yet.

I smell upset.”

“I don't think it will be a slam-dunk on either side. Kerry will have to run a smart campaign, not just go negative. If Kerry gets three debates, and gets to choose the forum on at least one debate, he has to look good.
There is no doubt that the war to find WMD's is really wearing thin with the American public.”

“Kerry hasn't rolled out the big guns in this campaign yet. That is being saved for 2-3 months before the election and then the debates.”

“Q you're forgetting a very important political axiom - your VP doesn't get you votes, the most you can hope for is that he doesn't cost you votes. Clark would probably be an OK choice, the real problem with that is that he's open to the same waffling charge as Kerry is and it would only reinforce that. McCain is a nice thing they'd like to float because the putting the idea out their buys you a little cred with independents but be honest and forget it, it would be an absolute disaster and they know that. You do not for any reason piss off your base, McCain would rip the Dem base apart for reasons I've already explained - there'd be a riot at the convention. Edwards is probably the best choice, he won't help Kerry win any states because his strength is in states that Bush will win no matter what, but he won't lose Kerry any votes anywhere that Kerry needs to win, and he has the advantage of not having a long voting record. Gephardt's the second best, but he has a very long voting record.
And who are the two people the campaign is vetting... tada - Edwards and Gephardt.”

“I wouldn't hold out any hopes for Kerry in the debates he has the exact same style that Gore and Ann Richards had and Bush is a master at springing the elitist trap. And Kerry is more full of himself than Gore by several degrees.”

“Bison, what about the Iraq war? That could turn the religious right against the administration, given the attrocities going on in the name of American righteousness.”