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What has America stooped down to???
Did anyone watch this show last night...??
ScorchFire
7:27:18 AM
4/08/04

no
Snake Eyes
7:28:38 AM
4/08/04

Nope, I watched South Park and then the Chappelle Show last night.
lumberzac
7:31:11 AM
4/08/04

Dang zac, that Chapelle Show does not portray positive images of white people.




I love it!



I believe I'll have a Samuel Jackson Ale!
MarkO
7:49:04 AM
4/08/04

Good #&%!$ing choice.
lumberzac
7:56:31 AM
4/08/04

"What has America stooped down to" ?
Scorch,

Only because you're in college. You don't need to say stooped "down" to because "down" is the only direction one can stoop. A better example would be in the phrase of "going down". One doesn't need to say "going down to" unless you want to explain why you're going down in the first place, or what you're going down there to do. Personally, I'd leave it alone.
Snake Eyes
8:14:23 AM
4/08/04

WTF is the Swan? Are they sacrificing birds on the air now?

Wow, I am so out of touch with most of what's on TV...

...and staying this way!
Treebeard
8:16:42 AM
4/08/04

Tree
They pay for plastic surgery for a group of women and then have a beauty contest.
lumberzac
8:19:12 AM
4/08/04

Just say no, scorchy.
You don't need any plastic 'extras'.
StoveStomper
8:21:56 AM
4/08/04

Ahh, ugly duckling goes beautiful scenario! I see.

What happens if they go through all that and it doesn't work? I mean, what if all the dogs in the neighborhood look better than they do?
Treebeard
8:22:58 AM
4/08/04

If that happened I might just watch.
lumberzac
8:24:13 AM
4/08/04

Plastic boobs look unnatural.
StoveStomper
8:26:06 AM
4/08/04

Someone named Quasimoto won Miss Congeniality.
aero
8:30:13 AM
4/08/04

Or maybe some quack doctor who screws up the operation and makes her into one of those Michael Jackson looking, Dr. Moreau type freaks! And she tries ot off the other contestants. Now, there's a plot twist!
Treebeard
8:30:51 AM
4/08/04

"Wyne Bradey ain't gonna have to choke a bltch is he?"
Nigal
8:31:35 AM
4/08/04

lol
lumberzac
8:32:50 AM
4/08/04

Isn't this a terrible premise for a show? As if women and young girls don't have enough body image problems...along comes another stupid tv program once again emphasizing to the female population that you are nothing if you are not externally 'beautiful'. This show is #&%!$ed up and I'll nothing to do with it thank you very much.
Twinks LIPWH
9:30:03 AM
4/08/04

TV IS that way, Twinks. It's a mindset based on superficiality and greed. There's no redeeming value to this crap.
Treebeard
9:32:08 AM
4/08/04

Yawn
Geobeet
9:35:21 AM
4/08/04

Well, this is the battle my wife is fighting with her website -- tit4tat.net -- but she doesn't have the millions that Fox does, so which message about self-image gets to most women is clear. But I'm proud that she is taking this "image is everything for women" crap head on. I feel very sorry for the women that Fox has duped.

StoveStomper, you should like my wife's site, where the motto is "No silicone, no saline, no sir!"
pekka
10:10:42 AM
4/08/04

Great website. Tell her to keep the fight going, Pekka. 100,000% Right!

Love the bib reading "Mother's milk doesn't come in plastic jugs."
Geobeet
10:26:24 AM
4/08/04

How do women qualify for this show?

Are they all nominated by 1 armed partners the morning after LOL.

Are the plastic team allowed to refuse a contestant "can't do anything with that !!"

What are they going to call the mens equivalent show which must follow as night follows day if (big if) this show gets any viewers.

Which brings up a question for the ladies,

What is the female term for a guy so ugly you want to puke ?
manuka
10:42:05 AM
4/08/04

True story
A coworker of mine just got his wife's new boobs that she wanted paid for. This woman is a nurse and was very proud of them.
I kept expecting him to bring in pictures or have her show them off like that 'Summer Rental' John Candy movie, but she left him to chase after a doctor.
StoveStomper
10:42:05 AM
4/08/04

What is the female term for a guy so ugly you want to puke ?"
manuka
10:42:05 AM



My ex-husband
mapleleaf
10:43:35 AM
4/08/04

So Maple how did you marry him ?

Did he wear a veil or burkha in some sort of reverse Taliban wedding ? or did he get like that after you hit him with the cast iron frying pan ?
manuka
10:48:18 AM
4/08/04

"A coworker of mine just got his wife's new boobs that she wanted paid for. This woman is a nurse and was very proud of them.
I kept expecting him to bring in pictures or have her show them off like that 'Summer Rental' John Candy movie, but she left him to chase after a doctor."

I would have sued her for the implants. Some women can be like that. My ex sister in law got my brother to file for bankruptcy and with some of the savings from doing that my brother redid the house…just before she divorced him and left him holding the entire financial mess. After paying for bankruptcy, child support he had $45 a week to live on.

Dumba$$!
Nigal
10:55:40 AM
4/08/04

No Nigal, if they were in an equal property state he should get one of the boobs, she gets to keep one.
manuka
10:59:07 AM
4/08/04

Manuka, you should've been a judge!
Geobeet
11:05:15 AM
4/08/04

I can not criticize breasts implants because I have not come across any. And if I have without knowing it then a big thumbs up to it!
bearmagnet
11:13:17 AM
4/08/04

Bearmagnet has a fetish.

That is not where you should be coming implants or not.
manuka
11:16:25 AM
4/08/04

Mapes! I thought you and tree were still married!!
BowlderMan, PE
11:20:00 AM
4/08/04

Poor tree, mapes has dumped him and he doesn't even know it.
StoveStomper
11:22:03 AM
4/08/04

LMAO manuka!!!!!

variety is the spice of life!!!!!
bearmagnet
11:23:36 AM
4/08/04

I heard about this on another program. Apparently there are now 3 or 4 shows like it.

The president of the College of Plastic Surgeons was denouncing it, while some stooge "doctor" from one of the shows was cranking out excuses for his own greed.

Un#&%!$ingbelievable.
Tilt
11:35:18 AM
4/08/04

Just to be the devil's advocate here, you guys all talk a good game. BUT... I think I can bet which chick you'd go for, the "average" one or the HOT one? HOT, hands down!

Look at Mapes... didn't she just say she did the same thing (maybe in jest, but she said it): got rid of the ugly guy. (maybe he was ugly in spirit or whatever, but she just said "ugly" as in appearance)

And as to the women here, don't you put on mascara, eyeliner, lipstick, blush... don't you color or highlight your hair or take the gray out?

That show may have gone a little far, but it's only a continuation of the things already being done on a regular basis in society.

And at least it's a bit more honest than you guys are here: the guys go for the HOT chick, not the "average" chick (in most cases). Do you want to tell me that's not true??
lizs
11:43:10 AM
4/08/04

Well, no, not always.
bitpusher
11:44:41 AM
4/08/04

Personality may make a difference down the road, but I'm talking initial attraction.
lizs
11:46:15 AM
4/08/04

lizs i was joking.
my ex was good looking with money. too bad he was the biggest @ss in town.


see just prove looks are not everythimg.
he was ugly on the inside.
mapleleaf
11:49:03 AM
4/08/04

I personally feel that if someone has the cash and they want to do some PS, hey, go for it.

I know if I lose the amount of wieght I want to I'm going to have some extra skin left and I'd jump at a tummy tuck in a heartbeat! OK, tummy tuck sounds kind of feminin. A Gut Tuck then?
Nigal
11:50:00 AM
4/08/04

Hey Mapes, ever hear the song, "If beauty is on the inside I'd prefer you inside out"?
Nigal
11:51:11 AM
4/08/04

Well, perhaps it's a reflection of my own personality, but I leave the "hot" women alone, since I figure I haven't got a chance with them anyway. Why waste time?

Of course, I've been with my wife nearly 15 years, so this is all academic.
bitpusher
11:51:25 AM
4/08/04

FYI my ex just did some face implants for his cheeks and chin. his wife has had her nose and boobs done.
both had there teeth done.
see they are now part of the Beautiful people.
mapleleaf
11:51:54 AM
4/08/04

im with you bit, i plan of growing old with tree and dont care what he looks like. i fell in love with him not his looks

no i did not just say he was ugly!!!
mapleleaf
11:53:10 AM
4/08/04

Sorry Lizs. The answer is still 'no'.

If someone has an actual problem, that's one thing. This display on television is disgusting.

Let's think of something else we could sell tickets to!
Tilt
11:54:41 AM
4/08/04

Yah sure, but at least you love him anyway!

I've lucked out. My wife may not be a beauty queen, but she loves me and has stood by me through times that a lot of women would not have, especially if they thought they could get a "better deal". Plus, she's aged a lot better than a lot of the "beauty queens" I went to high school with, and better than most of her friends as well.

Think I'll get her some roses on the way home today.
bitpusher
11:57:12 AM
4/08/04

Another thing
A year or so after we got married, my wife's aunt (talk about body-image issues) was trying to talk her into going and getting eyeliner permanently tattooed on her eyelids. She was thinking about it, and I told her she could do what she wanted, but personally I would miss her unaltered face if she did.

She didn't get it done, and we're both glad she didn't.
bitpusher
12:00:15 PM
4/08/04

Ok, I read this thread. From reading these posts, one could surmise that I am one sorry-assed looking mo-fo, who has aged before his time, and has the mental capacity of a six year old (being that I am unaware my wife ran away)

gee, turn your back for a minute...
Treebeard
12:00:23 PM
4/08/04

lipsosuction, Nige...

I think I'd be there, too. Just how different is it than the crap we already do to make ourselves "beautiful" or "handsome??" It just costs a lot more and might be more visible.

And as to the personality thing, I said personality could factor in. Initital attraction though... well, let me just ask this. Is the attraction at Hooters the wings or the girls? 'Nuf said.
lizs
12:01:17 PM
4/08/04

Lizs for female pres!!!!


boys, care to answer that little question?


its like, i only read it for the news articlas...

yeah right!
mapleleaf
12:02:30 PM
4/08/04

I go for the hot chick at bars! They tend to all be "hot" as the night goes on, however, so I don't discriminate!

I date women based on an overall combination. I have never dated a women long term that had to "put on her face" and looked "sickly" in the morning without her "face".

No offense to women who use a lot of "products",just a personal preference.
bearmagnet
12:04:38 PM
4/08/04

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