Jetboil Stove article

“Our local paper had an article about the business of designing, manufacturing, marketing and financing the Jetboil stove. You can read the Jetboil article in the Upper Valley News Until recently, I had no idea that Jetboil is manufactured about 10 miles from my house. A co-worker of mine is friends with Dwight Aspinwall, one of the inventors/founders. It's interesting to hear about the thinking that went on between the 9-5 world and the leap to eventually manufacture, market and sell an outdoor product.”

“Thanks for posting this, ski.
Good reading.”

“Yeah, thanks skiracer. I'm going to show this to some of students and instructors in the marketing program at our school.”

“thanks for that info Ski. I bought one of those and didn't realize I was supporting your neighbor. Cool.”

“Pennsy, did you tell them about the defective ignitor? Tell them when you turn on the gas and wait a few seconds to press the ignitor switch-it makes a loud BOOM!”

“It's been awhile since I heard the word "twerps"! LOL”

“Those twerps would fit right in here on TT.

Ski - I'd say that was my fault waiting too long to hit the ignitor. It's been much better since those first few wooshes.”

“How much does it weigh?”

“

Cool
"It's been awhile since I heard the word "twerps"! LOL"
Tango

It can't have been too long ago. You're such a young chick!”

“Smile, thank you NS!

I found out the weight.”

“I just weighed mine on a digital scale and it's just under 15oz. That includes, the 1 liter cooking pot, the neoprene cozy/handle, and 8oz measuring/drinking cup. It doesn't include the 3.5oz Jetboil fuel canister, which is smaller than the typical MSR canister.

At a room temp of 65, it took just under 3 minutes to bring 8oz of cold water to a fulll boil. The fuel canister and stove fit inside the pot so it makes a nice compact kit. Cooking in it takes some getting used to. The pot is narrow and deep, and I had a few boil overs while cooking pasta. The pot attaches to the stove with a twist so if it boils over, it's not just like pulling the pot off the stove. You have to untwist the pot to remove it and mine was pretty snug the first few times I used it, but I seem to have the hang of it now. You could just set the pot on the stove without twisting it on though.

Overall, it's a pretty cool stove I think. I don't know if it will replace my Brunton Crux canister stove but I'll get some good use out of it.”

“The gear whore has spoken.”

“Thank you Pennsy.”

“Cool! Funny, I only hear "outdoorsy type" from my parents, who think a motor home is roughing it.”

“That's funny Treebait. My parents are of a similar mind to yours.”

“Neat article! Thanks!”

“Yes, just read the whole thing. Very interesting article.. and good for them. I'm impressed with it after seeing the gear whore's Pennsy's in action, and plan to get one soon.”

“The Jetboil is certainly interesting and may appeal to some. For a canister fuel stove, even the 14 oz. seems heavy. My 3 oz. Pocket Rocket and 1 liter titanium pot can't weigh 14 oz. I know the Jetboil is supposed to be more efficient. I still think I'm going to stick with my MSR Pocket Rocket and MSR Dragonfly for cold weather.”

“I went to my local EMS store today to check out their 20% off sale for any outdoor club member. Dwight Aspinwall, the President of Jetboil was there doing a demo of the Jetboil. We discussed the merits of his stove vs. the MSR Pocket Rocket and a few of Pennsy's experiences with his Jetboil. I told him that I wasn't convinced it would be better than my current stove configuration of the MSR Pocket Rocket and titanium pot.

He then made me a very interesting offer. He asked me what I would say if he offered to take my MSR Pocket Rocket and exchange it for a Jetboil. I asked him if he'd really be willing to trade an $80 stove for a $30 one. He told me if I'd send him my MSR Pocket Rocket, he would send me a Jetboil. He told me a testomonial would be great if I was convinced after I used it for awhile and that he would put it on his webpage. He even told me he would give me back my MSR Pocket Rocket if I still wasn't convinced.

I'll be sending him my MSR Pocket Rocket on Monday.”

“Cool.”

“IMHO, the Jet Boil's major advantage is in fuel efficiency. Then second and third are the ability to heat quickly and in adverse conditions. Fourth is weight.

If you are going out for a weekend and only using your stove to heat two or three meals, then the pocket rocket or other lightweight system would probably be a push. But if you are going out for any length of time, then the fuel savings would add up.

The Jet Boil demo my son saw boiled two cups in 90 seconds. That is twice as fast as any other stoves I have used.

So, figure what the weight is of the fuel you would normally use and cut it in half. Does that savings make a difference?

I'm thinking about getting one.”

“that's an incredible offer. i like the way he thinks, aggressive. He obviously really believes in his product.

I'm interested in hearing what you think, be sure to post back.”

“Dwight is a great guy. I have met him a couple of times now and the whole crew at Jet boil has been really good to us. Their customer service is great too.

As far as the stove. The stoves have been great with no complaints and my new favorite. I was using the MSR pocket rocket and the GSI 1.25 double boiler and made the switch to the jetboil stove about a month and a half ago.

Skiracer, enjoy the new stove.”

“Definately a good deal”

“bbinkley - OK. I'm getting a Jet Boil...sometime.

My son says the canisters are smaller. Anyone know how much they weigh?”

“On the website it's described as the '100-gram butane canister,' but I'm thinking they're just referring to the contents.

I was wondering about the webbing loop on the cozy... Is there only a single loop one one side? That is... Can you use the Jetboil like a hanging stove? I haven't seen one in the flesh yet and the photos I've seen don't show enough detail.

Other than the usual weight issues, I'm wondering how stable it is --- it looks pretty tall compared to the width of its base.”

“Dwight said that they are now using Jetboil on Everest and some have modified the stove to hang. Yes, the webbing on the insulator around the pot is on one side only. It seemed as stable as any other canister stove, especially since the 'pot' is attached to the burner.

The Jetboil can use any canister...MSR, Gaz, Primus, etc. because the fitting is the same. Because of liability issues, Jetboil has to recommend using only their fuel canisters. All fuel canisters are made by a canister manufacturer and the vendor's name is placed on the outside. I think all stove manufacturers recommend that you use 'their' fuel canisters.”

“Hmmmmmm.

Thanks --”

“The Gaz cannister won't work on any stove except the Gaz stoves because the cannisters don't have threads. All other stoves use the cannisters that have threads on them.”

“i like the looks of it, i like a 90s boil time and stuff, but some times i make something more then just boil water, so i;m not sure if i will be switching or not,”

“Skiracer, did you hear anything them using white gas with the jetboil on Everest? The only disadvantage I can see with the jetboil (for me anyway), is cold weather use, since propane/butane becomes increasingly unreliable the more temps dip below freezing.”

“I know that you can't use white gas with the jetboil artex. Just the isopro cannister.”

“Artex, nothing about using it with white gas. That is exactly why I'll be keeping my MSR Dragonfly (they should have named it jet engine) for cold weather use.”

“The Gaz cannister won't work on any stove except the Gaz stoves because the cannisters don't have threads. All other stoves use the cannisters that have threads on them."
bbinkley
06:57:53 PM
04/25/04

The MSR Superfly is designed to use any canister, threads or not. Gaz canisters should work fine.
The mult-mount is why I bought this stove and it works.”

“i stand corrected then..sorry...jetboil won't use Gaz though”

“Saw the Jetboil in the store yesterday.. might make a nice $70 playtoy.

45s on the boil time. I saw it for myself.”

“I guess I am going to have to get one.”

“Took the jetboil fishing on Cape Cod last weekend.Brewed up a lot of coffee,tea and soup. One cup at
a time.Hit the spot for the raw weather we had.Instructions say
other cannisters won't seal properly. One cannister did a lot of work for three of us. Ok,we ened up using one and a half.”

“Hmm, I sent an email to Jetboil asking about the canisters and this is the cut and paste of what I received:

"Hello Redhawk ?

Can I use Jetboil with other fuel canisters?

Jetboil is compatible with valves made to the EN417 specification, a standard adopted by manufacturers throughout the world. Please note that the product has not been tested with every different type of fuel canister, and we cannot claim safe operation with any canister other than our Jetpower brand of fuel."

So someone is out of line.

I am waiting, $70.00 is a lot of money, especially when I already have a couple of stoves.

I will wait and see what the verdict is as time goes on. How much wear and tear can they take, how well do they pack? Some stoves have piezeo failure frequently. How well does it all go together if it gets dented somewhere. If standard Canisters do fit correctly (and if not how much are their canister compared to the generics?) will they also fit in the cup? What about winter, how well do they perform in below freezing temperature. How much weight is the whole unit with the gas canister? How does that weight compare with the msr, colemans, etc?

Lots of questions to be answered. I backpack/camp about 200 days out of the year so I want something that has proven itself. They ought to let me beta test one. If I can't beat it up, then it's a real deal!”

“Another review I have run across.

http://www.clubtread.com/sforum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5211

Sounds like a one task at a time oriented system.”

“I'll wait for the 2.0 version.”

“At 3.5 oz. the jet boil canister
is the only one I know of that can
nest at the bottom of the cup with
the detachable burner on top.A plastic cup covers the bottom flange,kinda hard to pull off until I realized if I squeezed opposite the retaining lips it came off easier.
I guesstimate the weight at one and a half lbs. Car camping we used the J.B. for one cup brew ups
to augment the multi port stove.
The jb got more use.
Some one posted adding an extra handle for hanging which seems like a pretty good idea.
I got the Jet Boil because EMS had
Club day. I flashed my team SETI
membership card for the 20% discount and added the msr miox,petzl myo5,leatherman wave,etc.
Is the J.B. worth the price?
I dunno.”

“I got my Jetboil in the mail today. That's pretty good customer service. I just mailed my MSR Pocket Rocket off to them last Tuesday. They included a full canister of Jetboil fuel.

The customer service manager sent me an e-mail and said, "I will keep your pocket rocket in a safe place, but I doubt you will want me to send it back to you."

The full isobutane/propane fuel canister weighs 6 oz. and everything for the stove weighs 14 oz. The fuel canister says the net weight is 3.53 fl. oz./ 100 gm. That must mean an empty fuel canister should weigh about 2.47 oz.

I'll let you know my opinion once I've tested it out for myself.”

“I got to check out the Jet Boil at an outfitters last weekend...and he even let me fire it up...INSIDE.

And about the heat conductors on the bottom of the pot, I told the salesman that I'll bet other manufacturers will most likely steal the idea and in the near future we'll be seeing pots with the similar feature.”

“I wanna get one of these. I witnessed Pennsy cooking dinner on it on Sat night this past weekend and I dug it big time.”