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I posted on this research more than a month ago.

http://www.thebackpacker.com/trailtalk/thread/48329,-1.php
pedxing
3:16:54 PM
7/16/07

so isn't there a dude in atlanta who might get it soon even though most "witnesses" have recanted/admitted coercion?
bearmagnet
3:41:08 PM
7/16/07


"There is no more serious violent crime than the murder of an off-duty police officer who was putting his life on the line to protect innocent bystanders," William S. Sessions, FBI director under presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, wrote recently in an op-ed piece in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. But "serious questions have been raised about Davis's guilt. . . . It would be intolerable to execute an innocent man."

At the heart of Davis's difficulties is a law passed by Congress and signed by President Bill Clinton in the wake of the Oklahoma City bombing -- the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996.

The legislation was aimed at bomber Timothy J. McVeigh but has had far broader consequences: It limits the reasons for which federal courts can overturn death penalty convictions. In Davis's case, it has helped block the exploration of witnesses' statements that they had lied at trial.

Before the law, the federal courts intervened to provide "relief" to death row inmates -- that is, a new trial, new sentencing hearing or a commutation of the sentence to life imprisonment -- in about 45 percent of cases, though the rate was declining. But between 2000 and 2007, federal courts intervened to provide such relief to the death row inmate in about 10 percent of cases, according to a forthcoming study.

"People might say the law makes the system more efficient. But we have significantly increased the likelihood of executing someone who is actually innocent," said David R. Dow, a University of Houston law professor who co-authored the study with Eric M. Freedman of Hofstra University.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/15/AR2007071501250_pf.html
bearmagnet
5:09:16 PM
7/16/07

I believe there has been over 200 cases now overturned on DNA evidence now. I think it's time we step out of the dark ages. We should keep the door open for only the most severe crimes but other than that we should make it very rare.
Nigal
5:19:17 AM
7/17/07

Nigal
200 death penalty? I heard mpre like 20. Where did you hear that? You may be right.
Corey B
5:29:55 AM
7/17/07

also, what is the time frame for that? and out of how many total death sentences?
crash bang
5:33:04 AM
7/17/07

I thinkits like 20 total (all years). again, not 100% sure.
Corey B
5:40:34 AM
7/17/07

Lets get back to Davis.

I worked as a field officer in the Public Housing Project that bordered where this happened. Meaning I was ON the Scene within 6 hours. The name that was running around (and there was NO OTHER) was Davis.

See this scum was rolling an urban outdoorsman. Officer McFail went to disarm him. He somehow got McFails' pistol then he shot Officer McFail. As the officer, father and husband (and might I say productive member of society) lay on the ground Davis stood over him and brutally pumped a bullet into his head. At that moment the career criminal made a widow and children who would never know the fun of going fishing or playing with their dad.

This is symptomatic of the society. You have such race hustlers as CongressSh*t Lewis who has NO freaking idea of what happened. Here is something that should be done (we still have to concrete witnesses to the event who have not "recanted"). For those who have decided to "give thu brutha a hand" charge them with lying to the police. Tell them they will get 5 years.

Then for Lewis and the rest of the Unaccountable, non responsible scum you give the guy life or even let him walk. But since they saw fit to co-sign his innocence IF and WHEN he does it again (anything) they serve the same term with him.

I am sorry but they could have gotten all this out of the way in the past 18 years.

This guy ran after killing the cop...he did not stay so that he could be checked for powder residue, he ran, he hid and even the drug dealers wanted him. There is no doubt he did it. The easy thing is to let it go. Well I am sorry but I knew the officer he was a fine, underpaid, servant who did more than what is required to be a contributing member of society.

Say what you want, feel how you want....but do this one time. Go to a funeral for a cop. Look the widow and the children in the eye and say, "I know you have lived the life of a cop's family, the low pay the crappy hours but you need to understand the killer has more rights than you do."
XL400236
5:46:41 AM
7/17/07

In the United States, over 200 individuals have had their convictions overturned in the last ten years after the introduction of DNA-tested evidence. A key factor in such cases is the proper cataloguing and preservation of the evidence which should be retained for several years.

As an afterthought these may not have all been death row inmates. But I believe Penn. alone has had over 50 death row convictions over turned.

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_opinion?id=161164569
Nigal
6:08:25 AM
7/17/07

No DNA in this case....the thing that usually happens is the 'witnesses" who were so sure a few years earlier during the height of the case had watched their 15 minutes of fame fade. They often have been approached (if you get my drift) by members of the killer's family and friends and urged to recant since,"It won't matter to you and it will save "X".

Sorry but I have seen it happen too many times.
XL400236
6:12:47 AM
7/17/07

nigal
After the intro of DNA testing doesn't mean "due to DNA testing.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0908211.html

Innteresting, huh?
Corey B
6:18:35 AM
7/17/07

See this scum was rolling an urban outdoorsman. Officer McFail went to disarm him. He somehow got McFails' pistol then he shot Officer McFail. As the officer, father and husband (and might I say productive member of society) lay on the ground Davis stood over him and brutally pumped a bullet into his head. At that moment the career criminal made a widow and children who would never know the fun of going fishing or playing with their dad.

Career criminal, XL? One conviction for having a gun in his vehicle which I believe was shown not to be his?

Nice attempt at tugging on those heart strings. You should write fiction for a living.

He has been granted a stay.
bearmagnet
6:22:51 AM
7/17/07

Years ago in another city I live in we had a neighbor whose son had been in a 'robbery" that went bad. In the process he and two of his cohorts got the drop on a police officer. As he begged for his life they shot him. The kid's parents were able to mortgage the house to get a pretty good attorney and they managed to get him OFF with 20 years (with him saying he wasn't the trigger man yadda yadda yadda..just there etc etc). He was out in 8. One night we were breaking a few beers open during a football game and I overheard him bragging to his "buddies" out back how the cop had begged and he had laughed as he pulled the trigger.

Well karma came around and 2 years later he came out of a convenience store with a gun. The first officer got a bead and three shots to the heart took this piece of scum off the planet. The kid's father was running his mouth one night about the "evil police" and I remember the only thing I could say was,"He died 10 years too late in my opinion."
XL400236
6:28:44 AM
7/17/07

how sweet
Corey B
6:32:00 AM
7/17/07

Wow, if we could only be so tough as XL.
roseymonster
7:52:15 AM
7/17/07

if only one innocent person dies at the hands of our government that's too many...the death penalty is barbaric, it's time for a new tactic
thriftyhiker
8:39:07 AM
7/17/07

they managed to get him OFF with 20 years (with him saying he wasn't the trigger man yadda yadda yadda..just there etc etc)

you're right, he is a piece of scum for bragging about something like that but if what you said above is true then why should he have gotten more?
last edited: 7/17/07 8:47:41 AM
thriftyhiker
8:43:10 AM
7/17/07

“if only one innocent person dies at the hands of our government that's too many...the death penalty is barbaric, it's time for a new tactic”

Which is ..... ? (meanwhile, 1,000s of innocent people are killed by not having a better solution)
Corey B
9:25:17 AM
7/17/07

those "1000s of people" aren't being killed intenionally by our government...they're being killed by crime, crime isn't new we've had it since the begining of time, we've learned to live/deal with it...it will never go away...let's not make it worse by adding to the killing
last edited: 7/17/07 9:30:06 AM
thriftyhiker
9:28:30 AM
7/17/07

Peers are sentencing them.

Adding to the killing by making the number drop?
Corey B
9:35:20 AM
7/17/07

you're all about that "total number" aren't you?...yes the number of "dead bodies" will go down but some in that total number will be innocent
thriftyhiker
9:40:10 AM
7/17/07

I'm considering the 1000s of innocents who die also.

Not so much total number, but total picture.

Again, if you want to do away with the "interim" solution of the death penalty, whats the "new tactic" you mentioned?
last edited: 7/17/07 10:54:47 AM
Corey B
10:51:42 AM
7/17/07

So thrifty...if the government "ignores" a problem and thousands die...thats okee doke?

SO we can let this one go by (LOL). Yeah good logic
XL400236
11:32:48 AM
7/17/07

“After the intro of DNA testing doesn't mean "due to DNA testing.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0908211.html

Innteresting, huh?”



You were right dude. Thanks for setting me straight on that. :)
Nigal
12:20:30 PM
7/17/07

127 in HOW MANY YEARS...thats like what? I think we refer to that as Statistically Insignificant.
XL400236
12:25:33 PM
7/17/07

I am sure the 127 would beg to differ...
last edited: 7/17/07 12:34:15 PM
roseymonster
12:30:16 PM
7/17/07

You know...I remember one of our number being ticked becuase the cops didn't seem to give a rats ass about an assault in a "unsavory area"....you see this and wonder who more don't start saying to heck with it.

I mean, low pay, bad hours...and if you do get whacked there is slim to nil chance the law will eventually punish the scum.


God this brings back the old TND controversy in Dallas...(LOL)
XL400236
12:33:38 PM
7/17/07

Oh bear...he was a Career Thug...(kinda like those people you want to put up a camera to get....)but then if its not your life you truly don't care do you?
XL400236
1:06:48 PM
7/17/07

XL400236
1:18:01 PM
7/17/07

Social Lobbying?
"I tell ya, I get no respect."
-Rodney Dangerfield


Has anyone thought about the concept of social lobbying? Seems like high-profile cases like this always seem to favor whoever gets more portrayed as the victim. Often issues like race, sex, income, or other social majority/minority issues can cause an emotional outburst that often interferes with a rational resolution to the problem.

So to that end, I can definitely understand XL's position. Cops, in general, don't get nearly the amount of respect they deserve, thanks, in part, to our "authority pig" attitudes. I see it up here in North 'Jersey and New York all too often; seems like every time there's a clash between the cops and someone else, the media is always quick to paint the cops as villians. And to make things worse, guys like (everyone's favorite) Al Sharpton come out of the woodwork.

It's definitely rough out there for the cops' families. When things like this go down, they're probably the biggest victims of all...
PhantomSoul
1:20:32 PM
7/17/07

Davis was convicted and sentenced to death
for crimes that occurred in two separate incidents on the same night.


This is a career?

That's OK, XL. Some people just want a conviction or someone to pay for a crime. Find a "career criminal" to bring "closure". As long as someone gets executed or put away then justice was served, eh? I mean, they were guilty of something, yes?
bearmagnet
2:24:25 PM
7/17/07

Dude, who cares if he's a career criminal or not?

I bet if you ask any number of random people, the consequential difference between being a career criminal and a cop killer is trivial.
PhantomSoul
3:02:53 PM
7/17/07

Gee bear, I know my experience is limited to a degree in Psychology, working with the Charleston Police for a while, and now something like 20 years in the Public Sector but I am guessing Davis probably didn't wake up that morning and say..."HMMM wow my pursuit of ministry to handicapped kids in South Slobovia is going so good I think I will become a killer."

I am betting he is one of thousands who flys just below the radar. You know the type who hang out on corners and never get caught for dealing drugs or commiting petty crimes...or maybe you don't know what I am talking about????
XL400236
6:19:24 AM
7/18/07

I see. So you have nothing but the case in question? So again

See this scum was rolling an urban outdoorsman. Officer McFail went to disarm him. He somehow got McFails' pistol then he shot Officer McFail. As the officer, father and husband (and might I say productive member of society) lay on the ground Davis stood over him and brutally pumped a bullet into his head. At that moment the career criminal made a widow and children who would never know the fun of going fishing or playing with their dad.

You embellish, wildly, to paint the picture you want everyone to see. Cold hearted career criminal.

I'm glad you're comfortable assuming so much. Glad you can assume he is a career criminal based on your college coursework.

And if he's found innocent? I mean of the murder, not his past crimminal history. What's that degree of yours say about all the people who helped convict him? The attorneys, cops, citizens. Why would one do that, XL?
bearmagnet
7:13:37 AM
7/18/07

SFBmagnet...I was in the area less than 6 hours after the shooting...the street word was it was him. Heck I am betting if you check each of the "changed their testimony" people will have had some influence from family or friends of this scum.


There are two GOOD WITNESSES who were there who have NOT changed their testimony. I am wondering the level of veracity they have?

You know bear, I stated it earlier but the reason we put those blocks for ridiculous appeals in was that the criminals wait till the last minute to do these shenanigans. Note the REAL KILLER has admitted it but ''''DISAPPEARED"""" WALLLL SHAZAM GOMER>>HE DONE GONE????

Yeah, I am sorry but I know the story, there were a hell of a lot more witnesses than the police got interviewed. Some have passed on (its been 18 years) and some have moved...but I am betting he is as guilty as when he intentionally and with malice Killed that officer.

Bear with your apparent attitude towards the police...I can see why you get such good protection in your neighborhood (LOL).
XL400236
7:42:18 AM
7/18/07

What's the "SF" for?

Tell me some more stories, XL. You have a gift.
bearmagnet
11:09:36 AM
7/18/07

Not a story there bear, I was there, I was involved in the intel gathering....if this guy is SOOOO innocent how come he acted the way he did?

Come on....you wait 18 years ALOT of evidence or prosecution support will have died or moved...Pretty cool. Its a neat trick that defense counsels use. In this case it comes down the the veracity and professionalisim of the Police. So if you can discredit the police I guess you get a shot.

I kinda wonder if you understand the whole legal "presence" the executive branch (POLICE etc) has when they are in court. 9 out of 10 times they have credit over you.
XL400236
11:19:51 AM
7/18/07

i'm sure you think you were.
bearmagnet
11:42:10 AM
7/18/07

Hilariously...the very people that demand the representatives of the Executive Branch are the SAME ones who see nothing long in the Chief Executive Officer lying under oath to interfere with a citizen having their day in court....(LOL)
XL400236
11:48:44 AM
7/18/07

I am betting this guy was just "misunderstood" HUH there Bearmaggot?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,289791,00.html

Prosecutors said Braddy then drove to a section of Interstate 75 in the Everglades known as Alligator Alley and dropped Quatisha in the water beside the road.

She was alive when alligators bit her on the head and stomach, a medical examiner said.
.......


Braddy had served 13 years of a 30-year prison sentence for attempted murder before being released early for good behavior.

The trial had been delayed for nearly nine years because Braddy has fired several attorneys and represented himself at one point. His attorney, G.P. Della Feram, declined to comment.

A dozen law enforcement officers stood guard, aware that Braddy has escaped from the courthouse before. He fled after trying to strangle a Miami-Dade corrections officer in 1984.

Braddy was convicted of seven counts including first-degree murder, attempted murder, kidnapping, burglary and escape. He faces the death penalty.



OH yeah the little girl was 5....
last edited: 7/18/07 1:06:28 PM
XL400236
1:05:47 PM
7/18/07

Does "escape" as its called include contempt for abandoning the trial? If not, why not? Should it? Does it even matter at this point? To me, if you outright deliberately try to physcially escape from your trial as a defendant, that just takes everything up to a whole new level.

Forget about proving guilt or innocence -- couldn't that just be counted as forfeiting your right to a trial? I mean here we are spending all this money and time on a trail, and this guy just plain walks out on it? Kind of like an extra kick in the teeth to the court, no?
PhantomSoul
1:37:20 PM
7/18/07

And as His case falls apart he goes on yet another Tangent.

Truly Dizzying.
bearmagnet
2:33:23 PM
7/18/07

LOL...nothing like hitting a bencmark

Today Texas ushered a miserable waste of human DNA in the next world. This is 400 for that great state.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/08/22/texas.execution.reut/index.html

OH and for the whiney little wussballs opposed to removal of defective DNA...

http://www.oag.state.tx.us/oagNews/release.php?id=2140

nice guy, or a NK as we say.
XL400236
11:19:11 AM
8/23/07

LOL...heard a great line from a comedian the other night. He said if he was in charge of the Death Penalty he would schedule it for the spring when the time changes forward. Then he would walk into their cell at Midnight and say...."Well it looks like you got one hour to...wait hey Spring Forward...come on lets get it on."
Fuegofox
12:47:56 PM
10/09/07

Wouldn't it make more sense if he went in at 11:00?
Sarge
12:49:42 PM
10/09/07

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last edited: 10/09/07 12:49:57 PM
Sarge
12:49:47 PM
10/09/07

I always wanted to take them into the courtyard...stick a revolver to the back of their head...drop the hammer on an empty cylinder...then recock and squeeze...(LOL)
Fuegofox
1:48:16 PM
10/09/07

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