Republican Idealism Steal American Jobs

“I'm going to start posting the articles I see here in Cleveland every day.

Class sizes go up!”

“it's like a geehawd in here.

tax and spend, #&%!$ and moan, divide and conquer, lie and cheat, steal and hate....


you must be so proud.”

“Hey!


There's the voice of reason!”

“God I miss this $hit!”

“"tax and spend, #&%!$ and moan, divide and conquer, lie and cheat, steal and hate...."

This describes the Butch administration quite nicely!

Geive it hell, Buddha Bear!!”

“my dog has more integrity”

“Gee, that's nice!”

“It started out innocently enough.

Buddha Bear began to think at parties now and then to loosen up. Inevitably though, one thought led to another, and soon Buddha Bear was more than just a social thinker. Buddha Bear began to think alone -- "to relax," he told myself -- but
he knew it wasn't true. Thinking became more and more important to him, and finally he was thinking all the time. He began to think on the job. Buddha Bear, being a union man, knew that thinking and
employment don't mix, but he couldn't stop himself. He began
to avoid friends at lunchtime so he could read Thoreau and Kafka and the Cleveland Press.

Buddha Bear would return to the office dizzied and confused, asking, "What is it exactly are we doing here?"

Things weren't going so great at home either. One evening
Buddha Bear had turned off the TV and asked his current girlfriend of the month about the meaning of life. He spent that night at his mother's.

Buddha Bear soon had a reputation as a heavy thinker. One day the
boss called him in. He said, "Buddha Bear, I like you, and it hurts me to say this, but your thinking has become a real problem. If you don't stop thinking on the job, you'll have to find another job."

This gave Buddha Bear a lot to think about. He came home early after my conversation with the boss. "Honey," he confessed, "I've been thinking..."

"I know you've been thinking,"

Buddha Bear said, "and I want to move out!"

"But Honey, surely it's not that serious."

"It is serious," he said, lower lip aquiver.

"You think as much as college professors, and college professors don't make any money, so if you keep on thinking you won't have any money!"

"That's a faulty syllogism," Buddha Bear said impatiently, and he began to cry.

He had enough. "I'm going to the library," he snarled and stomped
out the door. Buddha Bear headed for the library, in the mood for some Nietzsche, CNN, and with NPR on the radio. He roared into the parking lot and ran up to the big glass doors... they didn't open. The library was closed. To this day, he believe that a Higher Power was looking out for him that night.

As Buddha Bear sank to the ground clawing at the unfeeling glass, whimpering for Zarathustra, a poster caught my eye. "Friend, is heavy thinking ruining your life?" it asked.

You probably recognize that line. It comes from the standard
Thinker's Anonymous poster. Which is why Buddha Bear is what he is today: a recovering thinker.

Buddha Bear never missed a TA meeting. At each meeting he watched a non-educational video; last week it was "Porky's." Then he shared experiences about how we avoided thinking since the last meeting. He still has a job, and things are a lot better at
home. Life just seemed .... easier, somehow, as soon as he stopped thinking.

Soon, Buddha Bear will be able to vote for the Democrats.”

“EeeGawd, it's Mr GeeHawd!

Your dog has more integrity than who? You?”

“prosecutor, that spoof is a Buddha Bear quality spoof. That's hilarious”

“Cute, prosecutor, I got that one on an e-mail joke.”

“There was no mention of party politics in any of the articles. All of the problems were local issues and had nothing to do with Republican politics.”

“Local issues stemming from federal tax cuts and unfunded mandates which pass the costs on to the local level.

Tax cuts for the heavy-hitters are paid for by the little people.”

“Actually the articles say exactly the opposite. Tax increases that were projected to last through the 1990's are still funding schools nearly a half a decade after they were due to run out.”

“Isn't that LOCAL taxation, sweet cheeks?”

“Of course it is local. Most school taxes are local. What planet are you from?”

“Bravo Prosecutor!”

“yawn!”

“Betsy DeVos: Michigan workers paid too much

By Steven Harmon
The Grand Rapids Press

So, who does Betsy DeVos think is getting paid too much?

The Republican state party chairwoman raised the issue Tuesday when she issued a press release saying high wages were partly to blame for Michigan's economic woes.

"Many, if not most, of the economic problems in Michigan are a result of high wages and a tax and regulatory structure that makes this state uncompetitive," DeVos said in the prepared statement.

The press release was issued as DeVos criticized Gov. Jennifer Granholm for pinning the blame on President Bush for Michigan's loss of nearly 200,000 manufacturing jobs. Granholm was in Washington, D.C. with U.S. Sen. Debbie Stabenow touting plans to protect manufacturing jobs.

Michigan Democratic Party Chairman Butch Hollowell wasted no time in pouncing on the comments.

"I hate to tell Betsy DeVos this, but high wages are not a bad thing," Hollowell said. "They're good, and we need more of them."

[...]

"The fact that we had a manufacturing economy which paid people good wages is responsible for our middle class," Hollowell said. "They allowed people to send their kids to college, make improvements on their homes, save for their retirement. That's the American dream. This just underscores how remote the Republican leadership is from ordinary people. ... It means the Republican Party in general just doesn't get it."”

“Unions have priced themselves out of the market. Automation is to blame not politics.”

“bacpac, you are right, everybody should work for minimum wage in order to make the free market work better.”

“Don't Worry -- Be Happy!

bacpac sez: "You want fries with that?"”

“This is almost too good to be true. John Kerry granted an interview to Black Entertainment Television and, wouldn't you just know it, one of the questions was about whether Al Sharpton would be a speaker at the Democratic National Convention. The Poodle's response? "If he wants to do it, I'd like him to do it. I think he'd do a terrific job. I think he'll add something...there's no plea necessary. It's my invitation." There's no way in hell Sharpton, who has never found a camera he didn't like, will turn down the invitation. You can bet he'll be there this summer to give his speech.

Actually .. .this is good news. Sharpton's appearance at the Democratic convention will give us an opportunity to highlight the moral decadence of the Democratic party. Sharpton is a lying pig, though they embrace him. Never has the saying "you're known by the company you keep" been more true.

Well .. here's an idea for Republicans. Start now demanding that Al Sharpton use this time at the Democratic National Convention to engage in the Democrats favorite form of moral exhibitionism! He can issue a few apologies!

Maybe Sharpton can use this speech to apologize to Steve Pagones. Sharpton accused Pagones, a prosecutor, of raping Tawana Brawley. Pagones later sued Sharpton and was awarded $345,000. Sharpton has yet to apologize for his role in the Brawley affair, and his unfounded and slanderous accusations against Pagones and others.

While Sharpton's on a roll, maybe he can apologize to the family of Yankel Rosenbaum. Rosenbaum was surrounded and stabbed to death by a Brooklyn mob shouting "kill the Jews." The crowd had been whipped into a frenzy by Al Sharpton railing against "diamond merchants" with "the blood of innocent babies" on their hands. What was this all about? A young black child was killed in a traffic accident. A Jew was driving the car that killed him.

Sharpton can finish by apologizing to the families of the seven employees of Freddy's Fashion Mart in Harlem. Freddy's, you see, was owned by a white Jew. The owner of Freddy's rents his space from a black landlord. He then rents a small portion of his space to a music store owned by a black man. The black landlord raises the rent on Freddy's Fashion Mart. This means that the owner of Freddy's, the white Jew, must raise the rent on the black man who owns the record store. Enter Al Sharpton. Sharpton starts leading demonstrations. He screams to the crowd that "We will not stand by and allow them to move this brother so that some white interloper can expand his business." Sharpton's mob starts yelling "Burn down the Jew store!" and "We're going to see that this cracker suffers." A protester enters the store. He warns all black customers to get out and then shoots four employees point-blank, then sets a fire. Seven employees dead. Sharpton owes them an apology.

The problem here, of course, is that demanding apologies is a Democratic sport, not a Republican one. Well .. why can't you Republicans take a play out of the Democratic book now! Get on the record .. .demand Sharpton's apologies. See if you get any media coverage.

Yeah, right.”

“Moving jobs offshore is GREAT for the economy say Republican party hacks, LOL

What patriots they are.”

“mindlessly repeating jingoisms and slogans is great for.... ...uhhh......politics as usual”

“John Kerry wants corporations to stop sending jobs overseas, yet his wife's company, Heinz has multiple factories overseas employing thousands of foreign workers.

Don't blame the Republicans.”

“DELMONTE FROM NOW ON!”

“Yeah, I know... Stockholders come first --- your fellow Americans can go screw themselves.

Way to Go, George. Go wrap yourself in the flag. Mission Accomplished!

I guess you haven't heard any of the offshoring PR the US Chamber of Commerce and the Labor Dept. have been putting out. Ignorance is no excuse.”

“Tuesday, April 27, 2004
THE PATHETIC POODLE

So ... how has The Poodle decided to handle the revelation that he most certainly lied about that anti-war demonstration in 1971 -- you know, the one where he said he threw away his medals?
Come on, give the man a break here! He's caught ... red handed! There just is no way out of this one. Either he lied when he said he threw away his medals, or he lied when he said he didn't throw away his medals. Which is it, John? Either he lied when he told the Washington Post in 1985 that he didn't really throw his medals away because he wanted to keep them, or he lied when he told the Boston Globe in 1996 that he didn't throw them away because he didn't have time to go home and get them before the demonstration. He's already tried that "I threw away my ribbons, and they're the same thing" nonsense .. and it didn't work.

So ... what now for sKerry? Why, criticize George Bush's military record, that's what! Make the false claim that George Bush has never shown that he completed his obligation to the National Guard!

And what did Kerry have to say about Bill Clinton when people started questioning his draft-dodging? Kerry said: "We do not need to divide America over who served and how. I have personally always believed that many served in many different ways."

Different strokes for different parties, I guess.”

“THE POODLE TRIES TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT

When confronted with irrefutable contradictory evidence that he lied about throwing away his medals, John Kerry has responded not with an explanation, but with the charge that the evil Republicans are attacking him. Poor baby...don't have the facts on your side? Then just throw a temper tantrum start screaming about how it's not fair.

When asked about it yesterday on ABC's Good Morning America, The Poodle accused Republicans of attacking him. He did have a lame, weasel answer to the question: Kerry says he threw his ribbons over the fence, and that those were often referred to as "medals." Uh-huh....whatever. All he did was keep trying to change the subject and call it a "phony controversy." Of course, all day yesterday the media dutifully repeated the charge in headlines such as "Kerry calls flap over medals 'phony controversy.' The Bush-hating liberals in the press sure do serve their master well, don't they?

The Poodle is also trotting out the Bush National Guard service again. "This comes from a president who can't even show or prove that he showed up for duty in the National Guard." The only problem with that is Bush has released all of his military records, and also records showing that he was paid for the guard duty in question. Kerry hasn't released all of his military records....where is the media on this? Typical liberal response...when accused of doing something, don't explain yourself, just attack the accuser.

Kerry is a liar. Now he's using the Clinton strategy of deflect and deny, and except for ABC, he's being allowed to get away with it.”

“Why are you trashing every thread with irrelevant posts? To answer your latest inanity you don't have to look any further than this very board.


"The ribbons and medals are the same thing. They are displayed differently depending on the uniform."

-- Miss Anne Thrope
09:09:28 AM
04/01/04”

“Is Tilt mentally ill?

It is John Kerry's company not President George Bush who is sending jobs overseas.

Well, that is not exactly true. John Kerry's money came from wives of other men. John Kerry does not have any business experience.”

“Business experience? Good point!

”

“Why Does Clinton Escape 9/11 Blame?
Joel Mowbray
April 27, 2004


In recent weeks, a long-brewing conspiratorial question managed to make its way off of loony web sites and onto the front page of the paper of record, the New York Times: What did Bush know, and when did he know it, before 9/11?

Seemingly lost in the “discussion” is any similar treatment of the former president with such what-and-when-did-he-know questions. Not about 9/11, but about Osama bin Laden, al Qaeda, or simply the general threat posed by radical Islam.

These are crucial questions, and they cannot be ignored.

Two days after Condoleezza Rice testified before the 9/11 Commission, the New York Times announced in the lead of a front-page, above-the-fold story that Bush was warned in an August 6 briefing “that supporters of Osama bin Laden planned an attack within the United States with explosives and wanted to hijack airplanes.” The article then went so far as to suggest that Condi lied in her testimony when referring to the document as “historical.”

Never mind that the document was “historical”—a fact revealed when the White House released the formerly top-secret briefing hours after the Times story ran—or that even the most rabid Democrat couldn’t have contorted the contents of it in any manner more damning to Bush than the paper itself did.

Some have argued that the treatment is justified because the Times was simply reporting news as it breaks, leading one to believe that Clinton could be fair game under like circumstances.

But when that theory came up for a real-life test, the Times flunked. Badly.

Roughly a week after the flap over the August 6, 2001 briefing dominated the national discussion, we learned that the CIA had warned in a classified memo, according to the Associated Press, “that Islamic extremists likely would strike on U.S. soil at landmarks in Washington or New York, or through the airline industry.”

The same AP story also reveals, “And in 1997, the CIA updated its intelligence estimate to ensure bin Laden appeared on its very first page as an emerging threat, cautioning that his growing movement might translate into attacks on U.S. soil.”

The man who was running the show when the CIA made these assessments? Clinton, of course—though you wouldn’t know it from the Times or the AP, which didn’t even mention the former president in its story.

Not that news outlets have an obligation to pin blame for 9/11 on Clinton, to be sure. Even most conservative commentators and politicians, for that matter, have not tried to directly scapegoat the former president.

The Clinton legacy, however, cannot be dismissed in any analysis of 9/11. The United States was struck repeatedly under his watch—and our inaction did not go unnoticed.

Despite the apparent involvement of both Iraq and al Qaeda, the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993 was treated as a police matter, not as the international terrorist attack it was. The Khobar Towers U.S. military housing complex was bombed by Islamic extremists three years later, and the United States did nothing.

When al Qaeda killed more than 200 people in 1998 by blowing up two U.S. Embassies in East Africa, Clinton’s “response” was bombing empty training camps in Afghanistan and somebody else’s pharmaceutical plant in Sudan.

And when 17 servicemen were killed and 39 injured in what could only be construed as an act of war on the U.S.S. Cole in 2000, the response was an FBI investigation.

The historical record should make it clear to anyone not blinded by partisanship that Bush is not to blame for 9/11. Neither is Clinton, though. The terrorists are.

Could more have been done before 9/11? Absolutely.

The United States could have used more force to punish those who attack us—and in the process, possibly deter future attacks. Or we could have aggressively pursued the threat posed by radical Islam, particularly inside our borders. But considering the hue and cry over “racial profiling” even after 9/11, almost any such efforts would have been squashed by the P.C. police.

The job of the 9/11 Commission should not be to delve into high-profile finger-pointing. What matters is what lessons we need to learn—and what mistakes we must not repeat.



©2004 Joel Mowbray”

“Criminalizing business: part II
Thomas Sowell
April 23, 2004

Can you imagine being charged with murder for the death of someone you didn't even know was dead, when you were not even around when it happened? Only in California -- and only if you are in business.

In a state where hardened criminals are coddled, and sometimes lionized, a California dairy farmer named Patrick Faria and his herdsman were charged with murder in the accidental death of two dairy employees who fell into a sewage pit and drowned while Mr. Faria was away. The rationale is that the farm was not in compliance with the innumerable safety rules that bureaucrats can dream up, even if nobody can keep track of all these rules.

Whether any of these rules would have saved these men's lives is a question that can get lost in the shuffle. But not being in compliance may enable the prosecution to turn these deaths into the general manager's personal responsibility, even though Faria didn't know that the two employees were going to go down into the sewage pit to unclog it, much less that the precautions they took would turn out to be inadequate.

By trial time the murder charge had been reduced to involuntary manslaughter. Even if this shaky legalistic reasoning does not stand up in court, felony charges hanging over these men can put pressure on them to plead guilty to some lesser charges, so that the prosecution can put this case in the "win" column.

California is the only state that has ever brought a murder charge against an employer in an accidental death. It is one of many dubious distinctions that California has when it comes to anti-business laws and policies.

California's workmen's compensation costs also lead the nation. And it leads businesses right out of state. Yet some people wonder why businesses are leaving California, taking their jobs and their taxes with them.

A recent column in the San Francisco Chronicle vividly illustrates the anti-business mindset of many Californians. It dealt with the fact that Wal-Mart lost a referendum to allow the retailer to put a store in Inglewood, California.

According to the Chronicle columnist, Wal-Mart was "trying to bully its way into another targeted community." Putting an issue to a vote is called "bullying" when business does it, and the community where it wants to locate is called a "target."

Among the other rhetorical flourishes of this indictment is that Wal-Mart tries to "crush the competition." What does such purple prose amount to? That some people prefer shopping at Wal-Mart rather than in competing stores, so that some of the latter may end up going out of business as a result.

In all this venting of spleen against Wal-Mart in the Chronicle column, there is no mention of the cynical role of community activists in depriving a low-income community of jobs and taxes. By flexing their muscle against Wal-Mart, Jesse Jackson et al have shown that people who want to locate businesses in minority communities have to get their OK -- and that OK will not come cheap.

The ability to extort money from big businesses is a major part of Jesse Jackson's operations. Obstruction and name-calling are the weapons and hard cash is the pay-off.

All this works only because of those who will believe race hustlers and those who will keep up a steady drumbeat of anti-business rhetoric. California has plenty of both, which may be why there are only one-sixth as many Wal-Marts per capita in California as in Oklahoma.

Yet another example of the anti-business climate in California is a class action lawsuit against the Bank of America and Wells Fargo for charging people for cashing paychecks when those people do not have accounts at these banks.

California has a law making that illegal. But federal law says otherwise, and this will all have to be sorted out in appellate courts, at the taxpayers' expense.

Why such a law in the first place? Are there no costs to cashing checks? Do the people who do this work not get paid?

Costs arbitrarily imposed on business simply do not matter in the California political climate -- not even when those costs include felony charges over accidental deaths”

“He's gone completely off the beam.”

“Posted 4/27/2004 11:17 PM Updated 4/27/2004 11:31 PM

Intel CEO: Let's end political games and compete

Q: Intel is at the center of two trends people blame, perhaps unfairly, for slow U.S. job growth — outsourcing and high productivity. Are politicians pandering to voters on this issue, or do you see any troubling trends?
A: I really see nothing much new. Intel has had about 40% of its employees outside of the United States for the past two decades. What is new is that the character of those jobs is changing. It used to be mostly manufacturing production. Now it is increasingly white-collar or engineering jobs offshore as well. The big change is you've had a one-time-in-the-history-of-mankind event take place in the past decade. You almost instantly had half of the world's population pulled into the world's free economic system. If you take China, India, Russia and the other Eastern European countries, that's about 3 billion people.

Q: What's the impact of that sort of massive shift?

A: Ten years ago, they weren't even in the free economic system. But all of a sudden, you bring in that many people who are relatively well educated, you have to expect massive competition for jobs. We laid glass fiber and provided computer-content capability so that you can do work anywhere and ship the information anywhere nearly instantaneously.

Q: Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan has said that the biggest threat to American employment is not outsourcing but education. Do you agree?

A: I'd say there are four things. Education is probably the most important — and I'd further refine it to K-12. The university education system is healthy. Another significant area is research and development (R&D) investment that is government funded. If you look at the fraction of output in the U.S. that has gone to R&D — especially physical sciences — it has been in decline for two decades. R&D creates the ideas for future products and services. It goes hand-in-hand with education. The third aspect would be communications infrastructure, which is really the ability to move ideas and knowledge around and to make decisions rapidly. And fourth would be the government's policy agenda. I'd apply the medical creed on this, which is, "government should do no harm." Quite often, the government does harm. Competitive harm.

Q: In K-12 education, what would you like to see that you are not seeing?

A: If we could capture 1% of the hot air that has gone out on this topic and turn it into results, it would be wonderful. The results are how our kids compare to their international counterparts, particularly in math and science. The longer kids stay in the system, the worse they do compared to their international counterparts. In fourth grade, our kids are roughly comparable. By eighth grade, they are behind. By the 12th grade, they are substantially behind other industrialized nations.

Q: What are the hurdles?

A: One is very simply the teachers. I'm not criticizing teachers, per se, but 25% to 30% who teach math or science in K-12 are not educated in the math and science they teach. If you are going to be an engineering major, you are going to need 12 years of solid math. What are the odds of getting 12 consecutive good teachers in a row if 30% of them are not qualified?

Q: So how, then, do you change that situation?

A: A commission that I was on did a "how to improve math and science education in K-12" report, and not much has happened in implementing all of the recommendations. Ultimately, I think you have to put competition in that system. You can argue whether the federal No Child Left Behind law is competition. But it's basically grading the system, which is the first part of what you have to do in competition. And let everybody know what the grades are.

Q: Do you have any practical ideas on how to approach the outsourcing debate so that the facts are not allowed to be so badly skewed?

A: If the world is a very competitive place, you have to decide whether you're going to compete. We do not send our basketball teams to compete against the rest of the world, saying the other teams have to play slower because our folks aren't fit enough to run as fast. And don't just use these terribly derogatory terms, such as "Benedict Arnold" CEOs because I have employees in China. China is my second biggest market. I have yet to figure out how I'm supposed to serve a market by not having any employees there. But if you want to keep the good jobs in America, you have to decide to compete in America, and the political debate has to turn to that, as opposed to blame.

Q: Do you see any policymakers approaching the jobs issue as "yes, we're going to compete, and to do that, we're going to do: one, two, three, four"?

A: I don't think the politicians have fully internalized the global tipping point. It has become more of an attack/defense issue among them on why the job recovery hasn't gone as rapidly as some people had thought. The warning signs have been there for some period of time. You just have to go to Western Europe, and you'll see all the warning signs. You see what a form of protectionism, what a form of not competing, is. It's double-digit unemployment in France and Germany, with no appreciable sign of improvement. It's just going to get worse until they get to be more competitive.

Q: What about those personal stories of U.S. kids who do well in math and science, who go on to excellent universities, but who have no guarantees of good jobs when they graduate. How do you counter that?

A: The United States still is the world's biggest, most productive economy. But none of that guarantees you lack of competition. So when my grandkids come to me and ask, "What should I major in?" I tell them, "Get the best education you can; that's really all that you have to go on. Then go do something that you really like to do." So sure, it's so easy to find a guy from a steel mill or a textile mill, or a software programmer who has lost his job, but if you want to be competitive, you have to compete around the world. Jobs are going to be around the world. I don't have a solution to that one. It's also disingenuous to say that because this one person lost his job, you have to do something totally different.

Q: So how can we turn this debate around?

A: You have to look at what it takes to compete. Until you're doing those basic things, I have relatively little sympathy on the issue of the competitive nature of the U.S. compared to other countries. We have to fix our education system. We have to invest more in R&D. And we have to be more consistent about our infrastructure if we want to be competitive. If you have a worse education, a worse infrastructure, and you spend less of your gross domestic product on R&D, what makes you think you should be in a pre-eminent position? So somehow we have to turn the debate around to say, "Life is tough. Life is not fair. You have to compete. It takes hard work to compete, so let's figure out how to compete." That's the debate we're not having.”

“I just thought I'd share some updates as to the state of our schools here in Ohio under Bush and state republican leadership.

Another School Making Cuts

The Public is not happy here.

Yet another school making cuts

The problem is becoming epidemic

103 more jobs lost

The cuts just keep on comin'!

Folks, this is in just 1 week, in the Cleveland metro area. The result of these cuts...... less bussing, larger class sizes, less cleanliness in the schools, compromised leaning environment.

No Child Left Behind, outsourcing manufacturing jobs, lining the pockets of healthcare companies and funding schools illegally because the republican legislature refuses to make the system legal are leaving children behind.




*WARNING! Facts in articles, beware stratdewd!”

“Here is a quote from one of the treasurers I deal with at one of the schools I represent from a meeting we had today.

"With these cuts, we will have to get by with cleaning 60%-70% of the class rooms." He went on to say that it would have to do, because they had no choice in the matter.

I guess we'll have to have some sort of epedemic in the schools before people finally get that Republicans don't give 2 #&%!$s about public education.”

“Republicans don't give 2 #&%!$s about public education

They do to the extent that they strive to get prayer, creationism, and all other things religious in public schools.”

“Repubs have hated public education for 100 years.....and Social Security since '35......”

“I agree Mutt, but that's it. :)”

“Enrollment up, funding down, teachers & personnell cut.

This is just the state shortfall folks!

That's today's report!”

“Taft gives the shaft to everybody but the big business!”

“More jobs leaving Republican led Ohio
NOTE - Timkin earnings for 2003 - $36,481,000, .52 dividend per share.

The Environment is doing well under Republican led Ohio

Lack of funds making communties unsafe.”

“Anyone see who one of the democratic delegates will be at the big convention?

Yep. Jerry Springer!

Jerry! Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!

Not relevant to the subject at hand but funny none the less. Ohio politics is crazy! :)”

“"Yep. Jerry Springer!....."


A sure sign that the world is about to end!”