U.N. Oil For Food Scandal Grows.

“Does anyone know if the Russians were briefed on US plans or if they got the details through espionage?

There is spying going on all the time by the Russians in our government. I did not mean to imply that it doesn't happen. If you'll read more carefully, the intelligence listed in your article collected by the Russians turned up to be false.”

“i'm sorry ... who is investigating this again?

http://reuters.myway.com/article/20060914/2006-09-14T095125Z_01_L14238417_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-NUCLEAR-IRAN-USA-DC.html

and why?”

“rush limbaugh is going to investigate the effectiveness of the carter administration and give the world a full report - you guys ok with that?”

“Funny thing is that the waste in the UN oil for food was trivial. It was nothing compared to what has happened with the money spent on Iraq post-invasion.”

““rush limbaugh is going to investigate the effectiveness of the carter administration and give the world a full report - you guys ok with that?”

I'm fine with that..............its not that funny of a joke though.”

“JEEZE that is great logic...Ped..perchance do you even remember 1991? The oil for food scandal is like your child being assaulted, the police come in and the guy gets house arrest. Through out house arrest you keep seeing him break the arrest policies so eventually YOU and the neighbors go in and find not only was this guy doing what he wanted but you find where he was bribing the cops to allow him to continue violating other children...”

““Funny thing is that the waste in the UN oil for food was trivial. It was nothing compared to what has happened with the money spent on Iraq post-invasion.”

money is more important that principles? interesting viewpoint”

“Thats a nice bit of hyperbole XL. Saddam didn't gain that much through the abuses in the scandal.

On the other hand, Bush let Saddam go ahead and put down the Shiite uprising, come close to wiping out the Marsh Arabs and massacre plenty of folks.

Besides, with your analogy you'd have to add that that the US cops (Rumsfeld and company) had once helped the guy find kids to molest. The worst things Saddam ever did took place while Rummy and friends were helping him.”

“"...money is more important that principles? interesting viewpoint."

The "money spent on Iraq, post invasion" is the 800 pound gorilla in the room that is being ignored.

The current military/industrial/congressional gravy train is as far from principled as it gets, like the current administration.
No surprise...
last edited: 9/14/06 1:55:21 PM”

“Marko - assuming your premises, you're allowing 2 wrongs to make a right?”

“WOW so in Ped's mind the UN is the US government...LOL. One Worlder there (LOL)...You wouldn't happen to be a Criminal Defense attorney?”

“"...you're allowing 2 wrongs to make a right?”

Nonsense!!

I'm not allowing for even one wrong to make a right.

What I am saying is that all the attention being payed to the U.N. Food/Oil is ignoring the much bigger scandal...........THE WAR IN IRAQ”

“but you are ... you're perfectly willing to ignore the fact that the UN is investigating the Iranian nuclear program, even though they couldn't investigate the Iraq nuclear program w/o illegal activities pursuading their prejudice”

“Oh, so now there's an Iraq nuclear program??
That lie was de-bunked long ago.”

“Not sure how to respond to XL's bizarre non-sequitor.

As for Moon:
money is more important that principles? interesting viewpoint”
moonglo
2:43:30 PM


More words put in my mouth. Money ain't more important than principle, but I'm going to be more concerned about the guy who tries to steal my car than the guy who tries to steal my subway token.”

“Nice image, Ped!!”

“"Oh, so now there's an Iraq nuclear program??
That lie was de-bunked long ago.”

Ok, now it's time to put on your thinking cap MarkO. Who de-bunked that "lie"? The guys in the food-for-oil scandal? Yah! You get a star for the day.”

“More words put in my mouth. Money ain't more important than principle, but I'm going to be more concerned about the guy who tries to steal my car than the guy who tries to steal my subway token.

More concerned ... like I said, "2 wrongs make a right".”

“Silly libbies...there's no subway in Iraq.

But there is a Starbucks!
”

“Have the libbies said they were sorry for all their lies over the Plame mess yet???






Didn't think so.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

.....and they expect fairminded people to listen to them again.”

“Don't worry Rube, that doesn't include you. Go back to sleep.”

“Ol' Geo was one of the sneering mob that has yet to admit he was wrong.
[VBG]”

“typical "centrist"

LOL!”

“Even pedx couldn't bring himself to admit they were wrong on the Plame lies.
I guess when you repeat the same old lies over and over for 2-3 years, the libbies came to believe them.”

“Sounds like waste in the UN food for oil doesn't compare with wasted funds in the US occupation.

And Stove I just saw your post
"Even pedx couldn't bring himself to admit they were wrong on the Plame lies.
I guess when you repeat the same old lies over and over for 2-3 years, the libbies came to believe them.”
StoveStomper
4:46:21 PM
9/14/06

I challenged you a few times to show me something I said about Plame that you think is wrong.”

“Anybody got a lead on how close to the first billion we are on the fraud and waste from Katrina?”

“silly xl just can't stay on topic.....”

“What has plame got to do with U.N. Oil For Food Scandal? You people are weird. ;-)

Pedx, that was about all the hysteria and hype Vile and his type posted on and on on that thread.
last edited: 2/15/07 2:11:29 PM”

“Then why did you name Pedxing?

Why can't you just be an adult an apologize for unjustly smearing another?”

“Stove - it was the last post on the thread before I pulled it up today and you did name me.
I think my tone was lets not jump to conclusions, but lets investigate.”

“I see pedx. I don't keep my time set on all.


Why can't you just be an adult an apologize for unjustly smearing another?”
Reverend Truth V Wicked
2:31:08 PM
2/15/07
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!
Vile made a FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

“What? Expecting you to show a little maturity and decency toward someone you imagine as an enemy because of their politics?

Yeah, I guess that is pretty funny.”

“LMAO!!!!!
VILE is sooooooooooooo funny!!!!
He even says that with a straight face!
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!
last edited: 2/15/07 2:40:40 PM”

“I'm sorry I stepped into this.

It's PedXing you unjustly attacked, not me.”

“Cool, vile is calling for maturity and decency toward the opposition. Can I watch?”

“Vile is so silly.
I guess he's still pi$$ed over making a complete fool of himself on the Air America thread.
http://www.thebackpacker.com/trailtalk/thread/30155,3.php
last edited: 2/15/07 2:45:43 PM”

“Vile and company...how come noone even commments on the SEVEN TRILLION (thats a THOUSAND BILLION) and more wasted on the "WAH on Poverty"....or is destroying lives in the interest of GOVERNMENT acceptable in the waste department?”

“Personally the UN thing is water under the bridge and old business. Now the billions in cash we sent to jump start Iraq that no one can seem to find, that's fresh shlt we should talk about.”

“Wyatt Pleads Guilty in Oil-For-Food Case

By LARRY NEUMEISTER – 2 hours ago

NEW YORK (AP) — Texas oilman Oscar Wyatt Jr. pleaded guilty Monday to a federal conspiracy charge, abruptly ending his trial by admitting he approved a $200,000 payment directly to an Iraqi bank account knowing it violated the rules of the U.N. oil-for-food program.

Under the plea agreement, Wyatt, 83, will be sentenced to 18 to 24 months in prison and forfeit $11 million.

"I didn't want to waste any more time at 83 years old fooling with this operation," Wyatt said immediately after the jury was discharged. "The quicker I get it over with, the better."

The surprise plea came on the 12th day of trial for Wyatt, whose lawyers had insisted he never paid an illegal surcharge to the Iraqi government to gain access to oil deals.

The government had accused him of paying millions of dollars to Iraqi officials to illegally win contracts connected to the oil-for-food program.

Carl Parker, one of Wyatt's lawyers, called it a "sad day" that came after a weekend of negotiations with the government.

"You've got to weigh the chances. There's no crystal ball. We've got a client who's 83 and if, God forbid he'd been convicted, we're looking at 20 years rather than two," Parker said.

Wyatt, wearing a dark blue suit, spoke in a clear, strong voice as he entered the plea, part of a deal with prosecutors that he had signed earlier in the morning. U.S. District Judge Denny Chin told him he was free to sit if he wished, but Wyatt insisted on standing.

In a brief statement, Wyatt admitted that in December 2001, he agreed with others to cause a surcharge payment of $200,000 to be deposited in an Iraqi bank account in Jordan and to "advise others to make the payment." That was in violation of a U.N. oil-for-food program rule calling for no money to be paid directly to the Iraqi government.

As the judge asked a series of questions to ensure Wyatt wanted to plead guilty, Wyatt responded with "yes" and "yes, sir," but he paused longer than usual when he was asked if he was satisfied with his legal representation.

"I'm never satisfied with my lawyers," he said. Then he added: "I think they've done a good job. Yes, sir."

The U.N. oil-for-food program, set up to finance Iraqi imports of necessities, became corrupted in 2000 when Iraqi officials began demanding illegal surcharges in return for contracts to buy Iraqi oil. The program ran from 1996 to 2003.

During the trial, prosecutors demonstrated Wyatt had such a close relationship with Iraq that he was able to meet personally with Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein in December 1990 to argue for the release of Americans being held as potential shields in the event of a U.S.-Iraq war.

Prosecutors played a tape for the jury of the conversation in which Hussein promised Wyatt that Americans would be released as Wyatt and former Texas Gov. John Connally spoke sympathetically about Iraq's plight.

The government insisted that Wyatt later took advantage of that relationship to secure the first contract under the oil-for-food program and to continue to receive oil deals after other American companies were shut off prior to the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003.

Wyatt's defense lawyers argued that their client was an American hero who never knowingly paid surcharges to the Iraqi government to win oil deals. They also said he tried to play a peaceful role in resolving conflict between the two countries.

In his 1990 talk with Hussein, Wyatt could be heard telling Saddam that he had visited Iraq as many as 40 times in the previous 15 years and that he was "largely responsible" for a lot of the transactions in which Iraqis sold one-third of their oil exports to the United States.

Under the deal with prosecutors, Wyatt will be sentenced Nov. 27 and report to prison by Jan. 22.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hE-e-1lra65DSczBsRtXMi_R2sQwD8S0KRUO0

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Y'all read the first posts on this thread, LOL.
This news item sure makes stratdewd look like a genius, and tilt, marko, and Violin, look like jacka$$es.”

“MarkO isn't a jackass.”

“hehe”

“Read his posts, LOL.”

“I didn't know of a french town named TexasOilman? hehe sSss.. SssSurcharges not kickbacks.”

“http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,344453,00.html

typical”

“They thought they were voting machines headed for the USA.”