serious gay marriage question

“i'm really not kidding here...

does anyone know what the laws are in their state if a hermaphrodite wants to get married ?

also, how about you guys who are against gay marriage, do you think it's ok if they get married ?”

“Can they marry themself?”

“I know that transexuals can marry a person of their former sex without a problem.”

“Define marry ?

What rights and/or responsibilities does marriage entail?”

“define marry ?

i mean a LEGAL marriage according to your states laws, with all the rights and/or responsibilites by your states definition.”

“Wow! Think of the mathematical possibilities!
(MM, MF, FM, FF...)”

“...MMF, MFF, MFM, FMM,...”

“What about TWO hermaphrodites?”

“Step away from this thread, aero, before you hurt yourself!”

“I think with two hermaphrodites, there's 24 combinations, right?”

“When I asked my wife to marry me, it was my personal commitment to her and our future children.

It had nothing to do with any Church or State laws.

It does make it a lot easier to travel across borders when you have documentation for the children.

No children, no reason for marriage, but that is just my opinion.

Do I think a gay couple, or a hermephradite or whatever is better than an institution for children - absolutely.
Anywhere where the child is wanted, loved and cared for, is better than where the child is a job, or unwanted.
One parent who loves and cares for a child is a million times better than any marriage where the child is not wanted.

Abuse - I will not even go there.”

“hermaphrodites aren't transsexuals. There are no documented cases of true human hermaphrodites. If they exist then Hell yeah let 'em get married!”

“BM

you're saying that there's no documented case of a person being born with a wee-wee and a hoo-hoo ?”

“A "True Hermaphrodite" has a DNA chromosome karyotype of 46 XXXY (mosaic).

Many Transgendered or Transsexuals refer to themselves as "Intersexuals". But though their bodies may be physically altered, they are medically still biologically unchanged. These people undergo lengthy treatments and expense to have their external bodies match their inner identity as women, or men. These pre-operative/post-operative sexually-altered individuals are often inaccurately perceived and described as hermaphrodites, or "he/she’s" but they are not Intersexuals or Hermaphrodites.

There are many various "intersexuals" and that term denotes people born apparently in-between what are known as "normal" (average) sexes, within a physical sense. There are those who appear to be males but are medically (biologically) females, and others with female physical attributes that are medically/biologically males.

There are also some who’s external sex is indeterminant, as well as those having appearances of both, externally and having the DNA chromosome karyotypes of both sexes.”

“ok. let me rephrase the question.

if a person is born with both doodads-down-below, should they be allowed to get married ?”

“You may be born with a wee-wee and hoo-hoo but both have to be functional to be a hermaphrodite.

XXXY does happen but they are really "special" people and the wee-wee is not functional. And I believe the hoo-hoo isn't well developed either.”

“Sometimes it's not all that "straight-forward".”

“well... do those "special" people have the right to get married?

this probably sounds like some kind of socratic ambush for the anti-gay marriage folks.

i'm just really curios if those who oppose gay marriage think it's ok for them to get married - and if so how's it different.”

“How about bacpac and Miss Anne Thrope?”

“I think newgirl established some time ago that bacpac's external sex is indeterminant.”

“This question cannot be considered serious until a viable hermephradite population can be found”

“ok. let me rephrase the question.

if a person is born with both doodads-down-below, should they be allowed to get married ?"”

“oh man, you people are funny!!! are your ears smoking, Aero? :-D

of course they should be able to get married. by the way, i wouldn't mind having both! HA!!!! i'm hyper.”

“Nah, they should just go @#$% themselves.

But is they tried a union with another similarly equiped individual, would all 4 genitalia have to be in use ?

Could both get pregnant from the same encounter ?

How about the order of climaxes from the differing organs.

A real hermephradite can get themself pregnant but that would be incest.”

“What about gay two mormon hemaphrodites, who just had sex changes?

Aero, what are the combo's for that one?”

“i don't think a real hermaphrodite could get themselves pregnant.

Buddha, you're nuts!!”

“but for real, like i said, i've watched a lot of TV (hee hee) about people w/ambiguous genetalia, and they always sound so sad! it seems like they're always interviewing some person whose parents picked the wrong sex for them, and all kinds of traumatic things happen to them. i would be happy for anyone who was born with no obvious gender if they found someone they loved and who wanted to marry them!”

“I never thought I'd see the day when being a hetrosexual male who is happy just the way he was born would ever be called rare.

Look at me I'm special!! :P”

“LOL nIgal.

Lyra, I know, it kinda makes me feel bad for making fun of stratdewd so much.”

“Lyra, you speak for all the "Pats" of the world!”

“BURN from Buddha!!”

“Should people with the mental capacity of children get married?

Did I just take it up a notch?”

“So no one is going to call sacco on this?

Hermaphrodites and homosexuality are not the same thing. There is no coorelation that I know of.

'Doo-dads down below' is not a comment that belongs in any serious discussion.

What a jerk off.”

“I agree, bacpac. Hermaphrodites, bestiality, transsexuals, incest and bigamy are all separate discussions. from now on, we should only discuss one at a time and avoid mixing the subjects up.”

“Seriously?”

“Yeah. I disagree with all the slippery slope arguments from the right about gay marriage leading to bigamy, bestiality and incest, why wouldn't it work the other way?”

“Well, perhaps it was the complete ruse under which this thread began that threw me. You #&%!$s just need to stick together.”

“You mean incest, bestiality and bigamy leads to gay marriage? Could be.”

“You #&%!$s just need to stick together."
Miss Anne Thrope
07:34:34 PM
05/25/04

Your inability to get beyond your stereotypes is the problem.”

“Read the book "Middlesex." I believe it won a Pulitzer.”

“I know some obstetricians who've been in situations like that, when the parents say, "WELL... is it a boy or a girl??"

What do you say...?

"I don't know... can't really tell"???”

“In those situations, the majority of parents say..... "It's a stratdewd!" And then the poor child is destined to quote people named Bortz, and make no sense whatsoever.”

“Slugs are hermaphroditic. lol

Look, sacco asked a legitimate question. If gay marraige is not allowed, then everybody must be assigned an "official" gender, to keep them from marrying a person of the same gender. So a new government beaurocracy must be created, The Office of Gender Identity. Should a person with sexual characteristics of both a man and a woman be put in one category or the other? Or both? or neither? These are the kind of questions the "religious wrong" has no answers for. They are so tied up in knots by their pretzel logic, they can't think straight. I think it comes from being conservatives who worship an ultra-liberal as the son of God! LOL

M.A.T., you are the jerk-off, and not too bright, either. sacco was apparently trying to point out that hermaphrodites could be considered either gender, or both, or neither, so a policy of no gay marraige complicates their situation. Sacco did not in any way compare being hermaphroditic to being homosexual. He ASKED if the anti-gay people had any objections to two hermaphrodites getting married. He also asked what the law would be. Your criticisms show you didn't even understand his basic questions. Not surprising, since being a neo-con requires absolute conformity of thought, but not the ability to think for one's self.”

“Hmmm.... No sailors on this thread, Eh?




Stratdewd or Stratdewdette? WTF?

LOL”

“EXACTLY WHAT SLUGMAN SAID.

M.A.T. are you even a real-life human being ?

is anyone sure that M.A.T. is for real ?

i'm having great difficulty even imagining that a person with your obvious dysfuntions could even exist on the planet this long.

As far as the original question: (thanks again slugman)

i'd really like to hear from someone like buck or nigal or someother devout christian.

they seem to be in the minority around here and i would respect their opinions.

how would you guys answer the question ?

if you're not against gay marriage then that's fine. since the national polls say around 50% of america is against gay marriage, there should be at least some intelligent opinions out there.”

“(bump)

BTW, i'm not picking on christians here.

anyone who is against gay marriage have an opinion on this? anyone ?”

“According to Gallup, 75% of intelligent people don't answer polls.”

“PS -- Sacco, Annie lives for #&%!$ like that. It gives her a stage on which to act out.”

“wouldn't "not allowing" hermaphodites to marry be a discrimination against the handicap?

Who's needs to know, besides the spouse to be, what kind of doodads are between the legs?”