Abortion Ban Unconstitutional

“Thank God for the Judiciary Branch!

Federal Judge Calls 'Partial-Birth' Abortion Ban Unconstitutional

By David Kravets
The Associated Press
Tuesday, June 1, 2004; 1:25 PM


SAN FRANCISCO -- A federal judge Tuesday declared unconstitutional the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act, saying the measure infringes on a woman's right to choose.



U.S. District Judge Phyllis Hamilton's ruling came in one of three lawsuits challenging the legislation President Bush signed last year.

The ruling applies to Planned Parenthood clinics and their doctors, who perform roughly half the nation's abortions.

"The act poses an undue burden on a woman's right to choose an abortion," Hamilton wrote.

Federal judges in New York and Nebraska also heard challenges to the law earlier this year but have yet to rule.

Bush signed the bill in November, saying "a terrible form of violence has been directed against children who are inches from birth while the law looked the other way."”

“I predict lots of posts on this thread, with a generous sprinkling of insults.”

“I think I'll avoid this one altogether.”

“well apart from this one... and the last one”

“Why avoid it? Maybe discussing it will help your chances with picking up babes?”

“He doesn't need help. He has the British accent.”

“Yo Yo Gi Gi Bear

So when is abortion is abortion and the partial birth abortion procedure crosses over to killing an unborn child?”

“Good point. Hey Y2, do English men still not get "cut"? What do I say to a women I successfuly use an accent on, there was an accident? I'm an English Jew?”

“You born in America, but raised in the UK. How about that?”

“Guess where that goes next - the Ninth Circuit - which fortunately, assuming it affirms, virtually gaurantees a knee-jerk overturning by the Supreme Court.”

“Some do, I didn't - which seems to provide endless fascination to American women (he he he) - So I wouldn't worry about it.”

“You can't kill the unborn

Bit - thanks, that's a little better than my ideas. ;)

Bison - Supreme Court doesn't have to take it, no? If they do you think they'll overturn the unconstitutional judgement?”

“Maybe I included a little too much detail there.....”

“I see little difference between partial birth abortion of a 7 to 9 month old fetus and sliceing up a newborn child.”

“LOL! Not if it helps, ynami!”

“I now know things about the both of you that I would have rather not known...”

“If men had baby's, this wouldn't be an issue......”

“Put this thread in Fuego where it belongs.”

“You cant kill the unborn....?

so its probably OK to go ahead drink and smoke them out.”

“Bad bearmagnet, Bad!”

“where would the baby come out of a guy?”

“The Supreme Court doesn't have to take it, but being this high profile a case they will.

If a more reasonable court affirmed this decision it'd stand a much better chance. getting cases from the Ninth Circuit (aka that bunch of nuts out west), tends to put a bad taste in the Courts mouth.

I haven't read about the decision yet but I bet the paper work for the appeal is on the way to the Ninth Circuit right now.”

“I seem to always get the category thing wrong.

"I see little difference between partial birth abortion of a 7 to 9 month old fetus and sliceing up a newborn child."
StoveStomper
01:22:44 PM
06/01/04

Then you argue whats the diff between 4-6 mo and 7-9? 1-3 vs 4-6? You can't draw a line.

And mtnsteve nails it on the head.

One Question: isn't Viagra covered by Insurance whereas The Pill is not?”

“I couldn't tell you, since I haven't the slightest need for Viagra.”

“PEKKA

Fuego

n : a volcano in south central Guatemala [syn: Fuego]

this volcano only takes virgins not the unborn”

“nim - it's not OK to smoke & drink 'em out but thankfully there are no laws against it.”

“My exwife and I lost a child before it was born.
The emotional devastation contributed to our divorce after nine years of marriage.
Don't snear at my opinion.”

“Who me? I wasn't "snearing" at your opinion nor can I comprehend a loss like that. I'm sorry you took it that way. I was explaining why, in my opinion, you cannot draw a line. Especially when that line effects everyone and all their differing opinions. This is why I'm pro-choice. it's not my place to decide someone elses personal position.”

“Matt has God Like powers.

One question though, political discussions seem to go into chatter and flame, yet they can get quite nasty wherever they are. I can't seem to figure out the rule. This could be a civil political discussion here regarding abortion, why not let it be in chatter?

More importantly, why does it matter?”

“More importantly, why does it matter?

It matters to the ineffectual pu$$ies here - the same ones who rely on the ignore button crutch. They can't make the determination for themselves whether or not to click on a thread, so they need someone to lead them around by the hand.”

“as i understand it,
fuego is specifically for the "chatter" that is about politics or religion, because those things seem to (de)evolve into heated arguments the quickest.

many peeps like the chit chat, but are sick of hearing politics and religion debated.

(i use the term 'debated' loosely)”

“i don't use the ignore button, but i think it's a great feature. without the ignore button, matt would probably have to censor this site much more than he already does.

just think of how many complaints he'd get from people getting called "pu$$ies" all the time.”

“LOL! Thanks Mutt & Sacco. You would think the title is the biggest hint, no?”

“mutt, it's guys like you that should love the ignore button the most. it gives you much more freedom to throw out random (or specific) insults.”

“is this a personal fight between you two that I know nothing of?”

“ya, but i think somepeople like to leave the box up top unchecked so the "offensive" threads don't clog up their screen.

i can sorta understand it. i'm sure there are quite a few lurkers who just wanna read about BPing.

if you have all the boxes checked then usually the BPing threads sink pretty fast.”

“I notice that whenever someone praises the ignore function, it's always with the caveat that they don't use the function.”

“LOL.

nah, i was pretty much kidding, but also trying to prove my point by using an example.”

“whats wrong about seeing the use of a tool, even if you don't wanna use it yourself?

like i said, i think it probably saves matt from alot of complaints.”

“Jus an observation, no personal malice.”

“There was this hiker guy from Ohio that I had to put on ignore. He would have been all over this thread like a cheap burka.”

“has anyone ever actually been BANNED ?”

“Well, that's true. I had forgotten abouth him. I never got to ignore with him, but he was pretty close on the middle east threads.”

“i have 21 people on ignore.”

“OMG Lyra! Are you kidding me?”

“What did Lyra just say? All I see is a red x.”

“for real ?

that should be a thread in itself”

“HA!

Is Dennis Miller still saying "One Penis, No Vote" or has he reversed himself on that, too?”

“yeah, and there's that injunction Lyra took out against me.”

“LOL!! most of the names on the ignore list i don't even recognize...prolly some trolls-for-the-day in there.”