I thought Democrats were for the workin man

“While driving to work today I heard a bit about the Democratic National Convention. Its seems as though the DNC will be giving its delegates vouchers to cover cab fair from the airport to the convention area. The problem is that they are $10 vouchers the toll or fee for cabs at the airport is $4.50 so the cabby gets $5.50 before his/her costs are factored in. The normal rate is about $30 for a similar ride to a non-delegate. I guess its time for the workers to step up and fight the man.

Oh yeah, the source was that conservative bastion...NPR.”

“and no the delegate is not supposed to contribute their own loot, hence the strike threat.”

“So, can 3 people fit in a cab?

If so, the cabbie gets exactly what his normal rate is. If he can fit four, he get's a ten dollar tip, right?”

“LOL! We can also see what the democratic work ethics are from the planning of the coven, er, convention. They are telling people in the city to try and take the day off or leave early so they can avoid the afternoon traffic the convention will cause. No wonder they always wanna raise taxes.

And yes, I too heard this on beloved NPR.”

“Big scandal, huh?

It sounds like the delegates are getting a ten dollar discount on the cab ride.

What's to stop them from ponying up the remaining $20?

"No wonder they always wanna raise taxes."
Nigal

That makes no sense, bubba.”

“phaedrus if he can fit three fares then he gets $30 with the DNC plan, if he gets three fairs normally its $90. Thats a $60 lose if my math is right,not a net gain. Are you using that new math?


MarkO, why would someone who is getting a free travel voucher to cover cab fair decide to pony up 200% more money then he was given. Do you suppose he felt the airline wasnt given a fair deal and gave them a few hundred dollar bonus for kicks?

"It sounds like the delegates are getting a ten dollar discount on the cab ride." They are getting a free ride the DNC values at $10 and the cabby values at $30. Hence the potential strike.

I geuss you two and the cabbies disagree. But hey if they wanted better money they should just get better jobs right?

Is it a scandal? Of course not. It is worth pointing these types of things out though. Hypocrisy knows no party.”

“I didn't hear the report, so I can't say for sure.

But it sounds like a $10 discount toward the cab ride.

Obviously $10 does not "cover" the ride.

Are the delegates being told that they cannot pay more?

Meanwhile people are dying in some far away country......and for what?”

“my favorite liberal tactic, try and discount the topic at hand by bringing up something totally unrelated.”

“I haven't been in a cab in many years.


Do they charge by the person, mileage, time, all three, or a combo of the listed?

What is the standard pracice in that area for fares?”

“Scandle? Hell no, but be honest, if it was a republican thing violin and the cut and paste brigaide would be calling for Bush's head. LOL!

It's just Phunny Phodder. And it just gets phunnier when Tom starts his spinning. :)”

“phaedrus if he can fit three fares then he gets $30 with the DNC plan, if he gets three fairs normally its $90. Thats a $60 lose if my math is right,not a net gain. Are you using that new math?


Birch, cabs don't charge by person, they charge by mileage. I drove a cab while I was in college. If a cabby tried to charge me double the fare because two people were riding, I'd be forced to call the police on him.”

“And besides, it looks like the cab drivers' beef is with the city, rather than the dems.

link”

“So its the city's plan and not the DNC?

Nigal's right - I want Bush's head on a platter for this.”

“Forget it, I'm votin' for Butch now!!!”

“Violin, that's the idea I got from the story... I didn't hear the NPR story, but I'm wondering if birch wasn't involved in some selective listening.

The Associated Press
BOSTON -- Boston taxi drivers are angry over a city proposal that they accept vouchers from delegates to the Democratic National Convention - instead of using their meters - for rides to and from Logan International Airport.

The city first offered vouchers worth $8, then raised the amount to $10, taxi drivers said...”

“Gee, aren't there any Willy Hortons to blame on Kerry?”

“You know they're looking under every rock for one, LOL... those same people soon to be featured in the film version of The Hunting of the President.

It'll be interesting to see if Hunting and Fahrenheit 9-11 show up in this republican town at all --- and if they do, how long they stay. For example, Ed Wood was shown Once, at midnight on a Friday... Like Rocky Horror or The Song Remains The Same.”

“Phaedrus, I must have misheard the story. I thought the reporter said DNC. I stand corrected.

Regardless they are getting the shaft. If they werent, they wouldnt be threatening a strike.”

“I will go out on a limb here. The city council (or whatever the governing body is called) is majority democrat. So the thread title is still apropos.”

“Facts, who needs em' if your a republican!

Did the story note of all the extra business the cabbies will get shuttling DNC people from the convention center to bars/hotels/restaurants?

Come on Joe, this is so friggin' weak when taken into context the long term and ongoing damage that Republican policies bring forth to working class people, it's not even a fart in a windstorm.

Oh, and by the way, the last time I heard, a proposal is something that happens in a negotiation for something. The city is trying to negotiate something that the workers aren't buying, so, it isn't a fact because it hasn't been negotiated.

In conclusion, and in response to your misrepresented thread title, in this case, democrats are for the working people: the rate is being collectively negotiated (which is a right defended by the party and the democratic ideal); The DNC is not negotiating with the cabbies, the city is; put into context, the DNP does more for the middle class than the republicans ever will.

Maybe this thread is better suited for "Republican Misleading Attack Spin".”

“so you are suggesting more work for less pay buddha?”

“"so you are suggesting more work for less pay buddha?"

Of course he is. He's a liberal, labor lovin' union man. He'll tell ya he works very hard for the little guy while posts from work on the salerie that is paid for BY the little guy.

Frankly, I think the little guy is getting the shaft. LOL!”

“I also think that the fact birch posted this as a clear humor piece (make a mountain out of a molehill thing) and all the liberals took him seriouse speaks more than the content of their posts. Of course they take it seriouse. Heck, Violin has made a bigger ruckous over less with all seriouseness.

Good one birch!”

“Another stupid thread goes down in flames.....nice try birch, baume, niggle. Foiled again by accuracy.”

“bbbwwwwwaaaaaaahhhhhhhhaaaaaahhahahaahahaa.

accuracy? my comment came from

"Did the story note of all the extra business the cabbies will get shuttling DNC people from the convention center to bars/hotels/restaurants?"”

“Foiled again by accuracy...about something I couldn't care less about...yeah, I sure got burned on that one. (rolling eyes)”

“boys! shouldn't you be in church this morning?

keep at it guys....I'm sure you'll catch those evil libs at something nefarious. Maybe some of them will get laid while they are in Boston.”

“Jay, you are right. I should have called this thread "Dems debate wether or not to shaft the Workin man".


"Did the story note of all the extra business the cabbies will get shuttling DNC people from the convention center to bars/hotels/restaurants" See now you have me confused. I thought trickle down economics was bunk. I think some of that old conservative is poking its head out again jay.

Its good to see you arent taking stuff too seriously Jay. I mean one might think that you cant seperate work from fun.”

“Trickle Down Economics is the theory that if you cut taxes for rich folks and large corporations, those people will spend the extra money in the economy, spraking the economy.

This, has nothing to do with trickle down economics. :)”

“Yes, those who hold the capital, and get the significant tax breaks, are free then to invest where they will.

Quite a bit of that capital is invested in foreign ventures, especially now since that is where the greatest return is.

The jobs "created" are in places where the wages are way low, not here.

It trickles elsewhere.”

“Local international flavor company just handed some union rep's their asses as they where leaving. From all accounts it was landslide.

Would you want to unionize after working hard for yrs to get what you got?”

“I don't know why they call it 'trickle-down' economics. "Don't Piss On Me And Tell Me It's Raining Economics" would be more accurate, if a bit wordy.”

“So be it, Rabbit.

That's sounds like democratic process.....as long as it was fair.

What's an international flavor company?”

“Its a Swiss Company called Givaudon (sp) and no intially it didn't sound fair. It sounded as if the union was trying some sneeky tactics in order to get their fat foots in the door. Something about percentages????

They targeted 'floor' workers, the largest group of workers in the co. several hundred strong,,, but in order for the vote to happen 'desk jockeys' where also included.

I think what did them in was the fact that many of the workers had been there for sometime(well est.) and that they were happy with their jobs and bene's and most likely didn't want to include a union into their lives. Budget wise.

I wouldn't vote union after I sweated and toiled at a job for yrs only to have some greenhorn who's been there 6 months have the same bene's as me. Is that fair?


This wasn't a start up company, it actually was locally owned for decades, until a few yrs ago,,,so many of the people that had been with the old company remained with minimal change in the buyout.”

“In our organization, we don't set foot in a shop, unless at least 80% of the folks are ready to sign a card. Some unions play games, yes, this is true. In the case that you speak of, the office guys may have wanted to join a union, probably because they were getting hosed. I hope the company continues to treat the floor employees well. In those cases, you don't neccisarily need a union. I worked for a privately owned mid-sized company for 5 years. There was no union there, but the employer went above and beyond the call to treat the employees fairly. As a result, they were profitable in the long run, with very little turnover. I also have to mention that I persoanlly knew the owners, and they were not greedy. They found success in growth and innovation, even if it cost them money.”

“BTW, the next time we go hiking, don't be surprised if a bumper sticker that says "Somewhere in Texas, the is a Village Missing thier Idiot" with GWB's face next to the cloagn, slapped on your truck's bumper.

lol!”

“Am I the only one that notices that Buddha (loyal to his hard working little guy in his union and champion of fiscal responsibility) gets paid to post on TT during work hours. Paid for by the sweat and work of the ones he represents.”

“Yeah, Nig! Feeling lonely yet? :)”

“?????”

“You asked if you were the only one who noticed that Buddha posts on work time...”

“Lonely? No. That's due to the fact that probably 99% of those posting right now are doing so from work. It's a pet peeve of mine, I guess. Especially when it is people who whine and complain about economics.”

“Actually, that's what I was getting at. Myself included. I am doing this on someone else's dime, admittedly. I am also somehow staying ahead of all my work and my reviews have been great here. So, frankly, I don't feel too guilty...”

“What would the reviews look like if you took on more work then? You could be truly successful! LOL!”

“You know, Nigal, all kidding aside. I don't understand this company. The paralegals are not billing nearly the amount of hours that should show on record. A few of us have been almost begging for more work. That's how slow it's been. Yet, this company keeps swallowing up small firms and divisions of bigger ones that got cut loose. By all rights, I should be worried that I will be out of work soon, yet the work day moves through the week like nothing is wrong here. How they can expand like this, I haven't a clue. Don't get me wrong. I am thankful that I'm not doing the daily nailbiting thing, but the work just isn't here. Wife and I have been doing some side work to make extra dollars the last few months and I am actually starting up an effort to move on from here. So, your point is well taken, but they are just not producing from the other end.”

“My wife's company is the same way. They are a big family bussiness (the Browns...Clancey Brown the Hollywood actor). They are a publisher of newspapers all over Ohio. They own a lot of small town newspapers and keep buying more. But the profits are not there and they seem to be spreading theirselves too thin.

Sounds like you are outgrowing your place of work. What do you do btw?”

“I'm split between paralegal duties and records keeping for attorneys.”

“Now we know why business didn't work out for Buddha. He suggests the cabbies should take the fare at a loss, but make it up on volume. That usually doesn't work too well, but people try it all the time anyway.”

“Pet peeve or petty jealousy, Nigal?

Let it go, man.

Maybe I should be doing push-ups and jumping jacks when there is nothing else to do at work.

My boss doesn't mind if we do research, writing(we have a poet here) or whatever as long as we get our work done.

At times we are swamped and we all hustle like fire fighters in a grease factory fire.

We have barely enough staff to cover things when they are hoppin' and in the summer its real easy to get time off.”

“"Pet peeve or petty jealousy, Nigal?”

Pet peeve as well as humor. Jealous? Of what? I can post from work if I choose but I choose not to. It’s just funny when everyone whines and complains that they are overworked and underpaid while they are phucking off on company time. They whine about the economy while they themselves are hurting the economy. Think that East Indian tech support person who is doing an American’s job is cruising the net? I bet they aren’t. then of course we have people like yourself who are always talking about rich people and acting like you deserve the same things they have worked for while you sit there and phuck off at your library job.

It’s about work ethics Tom.”

“DC Cabbies work on a zone system (no meter) because of Politicians, the biggest zone being what surrounds the Capitol/Whitehouse. I walk two blocks so I can cross a boundry and not pay for a two zone trip.

Cabbies will try to rip you off on the back from the bar trip. I live for this and love spewing hate at them (especially when I'm alone) and on occasion have rewarded them by underpaying

Cabbies will pick up fares along your route to try and increase their take. I've been packed in a cab with strangers and been taken "off route" because of this. On these trips I explain to the cabbie why they're getting such a small tip from me.

BTW - I've worked in the service industry for many years and I tip well, just don't piss me off! ;)”