Colin Powell Comes Out!!

“Associated Press

JAKARTA, Indonesia (AP) -- U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell donned a hard hat and tucked a hammer in his belt Friday, performing a version of the Village People's hit "YMCA" at the conclusion of Asia's largest security meeting.

Colin of the Villiage People”

“I think he went a little far with "In the Navy", though.”

“So, Colin is a Log Cabin kind of guy, huh?”

“Kewl Beans!”

“How ironic that our government leaders choose a very gay male oriented song. Aren't they the ones saying homosexuality is "against" religion? Maybe they got stuck on the word "against".”

“Maybe they would have been better off choosing "We are the Champions" by Queen.”

“I know Wolfowitz likes to suck a comb.”

“I don't think Colin is the one preaching against homosexuality, but then again, Cheney isn't either, for entirely different reasons.”

“Kind of shoots down wolfeyes' theory, then.”

“Now the religious right is another matter.”

“Former secretary of state Colin L. Powell said yesterday that the United States is losing what he described as a "civil war" in Iraq and that he is not persuaded that an increase in U.S. troops there would reverse the situation. Instead, he called for a new strategy that would relinquish responsibility for Iraqi security to the government in Baghdad sooner rather than later, with a U.S. drawdown to begin by the middle of next year.

Powell's comments broke his long public silence on the issue and placed him at odds with the administration. President Bush is considering options for a new military strategy -- among them a "surge" of 15,000 to 30,000 troops added to the current 140,000 in Iraq, to secure Baghdad and to accelerate the training of Iraqi forces, as Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and others have proposed; or a redirection of the U.S. military away from the insurgency to focus mainly on hunting al-Qaeda terrorists, as the nation's top military leaders proposed last week in a meeting with the president.
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Speaking on CBS's "Face the Nation," Powell seemed to draw as much from his 35-year Army career, including four years as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, as from his more recent and difficult tenure as Bush's chief diplomat.

The summer's surge of U.S. troops to try to stabilize Baghdad failed, he said, and any new attempt is unlikely to succeed. "If somebody proposes that additional troops be sent, if I was still chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, my first question . . . is what mission is it these troops are supposed to accomplish? . . . Is it something that is really accomplishable? . . . Do we have enough troops to accomplish it?"
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/17/AR2006121700494.html?nav=rss_email/components”

“It's funny how people of the Bush administration are suddenly "credible" when they side w/ the left.”

“I saw part of the interview. He said that the war had entered a third phase beginning with the bombing of a particular mosque. This bombing marked the begining of civil war. When he talked about the US losing he pretty much said we're not winning and if we're not winning then we're losing.”

“Well Moon has a pretty good point...ever notice when a Libbie takes a shot at the Left he has SOLD OUT...but when a Righty calls the party out..he is BRAVE and IMPORTANT....looks kinda duplicitious to me.”

“I wish Powell would run for Pres. I don't know if I'd vote for him or not, but I'd certainly seriously evaluate it.”

“LOL..Day, trust me there has NEVER been a General since Washington who worked out as a President. Powell is able to play both sides of the road. There are many friends I know in the Military who Thank God Schwartzkopf was in command and not Powell in the First Gulf War.”

“*yawn*”

“XL - and that's what I'd want to evaluate. The generals don't seem to make good political leaders. I went to a confernce about a year ago. One day we had Gen McAffrey(sp?) speak and the next day was Jesse the Body. It was very interesting to hear the opposing viewpoints.”

“I believe Powell is formerly of the Bush Administration.”

“I believe Powell lost a power struggle to Cheney and Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz.

Of course, that's only based on what I've read about it. I'm probably a pawn of the liberal media.”

“I think Eisenhower was a good president.”

“Yup, and he warned us about that "military-industrial complex" and built our interstate highway system, and gave Al Gore a headsup about his thoughts regarding the future internet.”

“jackson was also considered one of the great presidents.”

“Jessie hasn't won yet. ;-)”

“Grant didn't do a terrible job for the time.”

“Colin Powell
“Wow! Colin Powell for Secretary of State. What does this mean? Here is what I think it means. It means that black America will have a role model that does not say, ?You are black first, American second or third.? George Bush is a uniter not a divider. Jesse Jackson has made a career out of polarizing Americans. Colin Powell?s message is that the Us and Them attitude of the past should stay in the past.

I think that we will see peace in the Middle East during this administration. Bill Clinton and Madelin Albright have been a hinderence to this process. Colin Powell has credibility in the Middle East and throughout the world.

I think Dick Gephardt is a credible and reasonable person. I think Bush will be successful in to developing a working relationship with the Democratic leader and work through the partisan bickering. I predict we will see legistlation passed on education and health care. I do not expect to see election reform.

I make these predictions of my own accord. Let the future prove me right or wrong. We should look to the future and not dwell on the past. The pundits of today have already doomed the Bush administration. We will see.

God Bless America”
bacpac
6:24:36 AM
11/30/00

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“Spooky.”

“Colin was such a disapointment for most everyone.”

“There are those who say Colin Powell knew what a horrible mistake Iraq was and failed to make enough noise about that fact. I haven't been able to find much evidence to support that. I believe he told GWB what a bad move he was getting ready to make and got pushed out of the inner circle for his good advice.

Now that it is common knowledge all over the world that Iraq was a huge mistake and the American public has made it crystal clear what they think via the November 7th vote, Powell is getting on the side that will in power soon. He's no dummy.

Re: Powell running for President - he has said he will not consider it because of his family. Rumor is his wife has some sort of illness that is not common knowledge.”

“That whole thread is a good time waster.”

“Powell bucked the Dear Leader, such a disappointment.

Powell for president?
Not a chance, after the pack of lies he delivered to the U.N. to sell Dubya's war I think he effectively "shot himself in the dick".”

“Well MarkO, thankfully the U.N. does not elect our presidents.”

““Grant didn't do a terrible job for the time.”
Phaedrus

Um do they not have history books in California? Grant had one of the most Corrupt administrations in history (until the 42nd that is). My GOD...

http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h234.html

Heck the system of "spoils" for government hiring started there and ended with assasination of a President.

Last night I saw an interesting interview with Dick (the Toe Sucker) Morris. He explained how Barak Dumbobama was going to be for Shrillery what Powell was for Dole.
If anyone was around then, Colin Powell made grumblings about running and he did it long enough to where other possibly successful candidates were unprepared to enter the race, hence we ended up with BOBDOLE....the Moderate.”

“Note the phrase "for the time" He could have been a much better president, but his cracking down on the KKK in the south and other violent organizations took cojones and foresight.

His biggest failure was overlooking corruption even when it was made vastly apparent. That part I'll agree with.”

“Hey, and let's not forget, the MOST blatantly corrupt president in US History and the ONLY president to ever resign in complete and utter disgrace was...A REPUBLICAN. LOL.”

“Marko has stated what killed Powell's chances of running for president. He very well could have gotten support from both sides. I know I for one would have supported him and I'm still trying to figure out what side I belong on. I bounce back and forth depending on the issue. The key is Powell blew his chances when he lied to the world during his Iraq WMD's speach. The opposition could just run the tape of that speech over and over. He has no chance to run now.”

““Well MarkO, thankfully the U.N. does not elect our presidents.”
StickmanWalking
10:02:25 PM
12/18/06

Its the pack of lies that I'm talking about, not the U.N.

It was political suicide.

And for goodness sake, McCain is almost seventy years old!
This country needs someone in their 40's or 50's to be physically and mentally able to do the job.
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“Back to Eisenhower. IN some ways he showed more consitency and principle in dealing with anti-integration violence than did JFK - who was way too worried about the Dixiecrats.

And I agree with Nimblefoot on Ikes cautions about the military industrial complex.
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“I totally disagree about McCains age being an issue. I'd rather have McCain at his age than the current president at any age. McCain has been to combat and suffered as a POW as well. He didn't dodge serving in a hot zone like Bush. He is exactly the man I want to lead this country out of Iraq. I think he has the best chance of doing it with honor. He also can appeal to both sides. It is time for our nation to heal.
last edited: 12/19/06 11:01:18 AM”

“I agree about Eisenhower as well. I think he was a good president. You can love, support and defend your country all the while, still hate military industrial complex. I have nothing but disdain for the military industrial complex. Eisenhower was warning us of the chickenhawks to come. Those that would use the war machine for profit.”

“McCain did suffer at the hands of his captors.
I wonder if this has led to any health problems.
And 70 is way too old for the job.

For what its worth Eisenhower and Nixon refused to let Vietnam hold free elections in '56 and were instumental in dividing the country.
Twenty years later it was all for naught.
They refused to see colonialism as the slavery that is was(and still is) and chose to oppose independence.
That abandonment led the Vietnamese to further embrace communism and stoked the cold war.
The very stoking fueled the military/industrial/congressional complex.

All over the colonial world The West opposed independence in the '40s, '50s and '60s driving the rebellious right into the arms of Russian and Chinese communist influence.
Oh, and that fed the cold war.
It almost seems like a racket in hind-sight.”

“They refused to see colonialism as the slavery that is was(and still is) and chose to oppose independence.

Eisenhower did want to see democracy in Vietnam. It was the French that lorded over them not us.
I agree with you on colonialism as slavery. See (Puerto Rico).”

“It goes back to Truman.
The U.S. funded and transported French(and some German veterans, too)combat troops to Saigon in '45.

"Wanna kill some communists? Come and get it, boys!"

Speakin' of rubber......
http://www.laborrights.org/press/Firestone/allafrica_112105.htm”

“RE McCain. Yeah. Just what we need. Another geriatric in the White House. Remember the last one in there? He couldn't remember giving the OK to illegal and covert arms trades. Thanks, but I'll be skipping the Alzheimer President another option. Call me ageist.
last edited: 12/19/06 2:35:32 PM”

“Eisenhower???? As a President he was a good golfer. As for the Veiled Refernce to Nixon...when he got in trouble the Republicans knew they could stave off a removal (they had the numbers) but they still went to Nixon and told him to resign THEY TOLD HIM even the APPEARANCE if Impropriety was too much.

Flash ahead to the most corrupt administration in history...42nd. THIS GUY even Plead GUILTY to violating his oath of office. HE PLEAD GUILTY. But even when you knew he had looked you in the eye and lied on TV..the libbies still treat him like a celebrity...WHATS THAT ALL ABOUT?????”

“It's a nice illusion to think that McCain is somehow moderate. But he has a pretty conservative voting record. And he is running as the insider/right candidate right now.

He IS a national hero. And I did vote for him when he won the Michigan primary in 2000. I remember saying "Go McCain" to the poll worker when I popped my ballot into the reader.

BUT, he will have to run very right and he'll be beholden to that right wing if he wins.

And, I doubt that Iraq will look much better in two years. McCain's current position seems to be the de facto administration position. So, I think that the Iraq War will discredit him.

It is actually difficult to find a credible candidate on the Republican side right now. Maybe Chuck Hagel or Lindsey Graham?”

“It is actually difficult to find a credible candidate on the Republican side right now. Maybe Chuck Hagel or Lindsey Graham?”
reformed lurker
3:22:39 PM
12/19/06

Step away from the crack pipe, rl. ;-)

Never heard of Rudy?

McCain is toast. He has always been a darlin' of the so called 'moderate' Dems, but the Rep base dislikes him for his backstabing ways. McCain is all about McCain. Very much like ol' Kerry.

The Repubs will go with Rudy if they have any sense.”

“What has Rudy done? Oh I know. He's going to use 9-11 and beat it like a borrowed mule. See what Rove has taught us?”

“"The Repubs will go with Rudy if they have any sense."

They have no sense.”