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PORTLAND, Ore. -- The Portland Archdiocese filed for bankruptcy Tuesday because of the steep costs from clergy sex abuse lawsuits, an unprecedented step that could open the Roman Catholic archdiocese to new levels of court scrutiny.

No other American diocese has filed for bankruptcy, though Boston threatened to do so at the height of the abuse crisis that began there two years ago. The Diocese of Tucson, Ariz., has said it will decide whether to seek court protection before an abuse trial there in September.


http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apus_story.asp?category=1110&slug=Archdiocese%20Bankruptcy
USA
11:13:52 PM
7/06/04

WTF ?

let's go catholics.

10% of your income !

stop cheating god, all of you. he sees you, you know.
sacco
7:59:22 AM
7/07/04

i heard a man who was molested say the church has been morally bankrupt all of his life! i thought that was a pretty good line....
smiley girl
8:04:05 AM
7/07/04

god gonna raise your taxes???

Its YOUR money!
MarkO
8:04:20 AM
7/07/04

What if the Vatican held a yard sale? I'm sure a couple pieces of furniture could cover the cost? What about the Popes hat?
bearmagnet
8:13:02 AM
7/07/04

They could sell off a few trinkets to raise money.
MarkO
8:15:03 AM
7/07/04

But that might said the wrong message to the priests who took a vow of poverty so God on Earth could live like a King, no?

So instead maybe priests should hit the streets and beg? That might be the more Catholic thing to do.
bearmagnet
8:17:56 AM
7/07/04

said=send.

Coffee, need more coffee.
bearmagnet
8:20:33 AM
7/07/04

Are you sure priests took a vow of poverty? I thought it was just monks and perhaps nuns who did that. I don't think priests have to.
smiley girl
8:23:24 AM
7/07/04

Really? Well accepting the pay they get is like a vow of poverty, no?
bearmagnet
8:24:29 AM
7/07/04

The Vatican should have taken up knitting...cause they're reeping what they sew.
Nigal
8:48:01 AM
7/07/04

I don't know about that, bearmagnet. Some of them drive pretty nice vehicles, go on pretty nice vacations, and I know some of them even own cottages, motorcycles, etc.

My mom worked for the Catholic Church as long as I can remember. ONe priest (who was actually convicted many, many years ago - like 15+ - for molesting boys) owned a cottage in northern Michigan (where he often took boys from the Parish) and a motorcycle. Some priests live pretty darn well.
smiley girl
9:10:39 AM
7/07/04

All joking aside I do hope the actual laity that makes up this fine institution seizes the moment and fight to take back their church. It’s easy to cut and run but it is true Catholics that have the clarity and tenacity to work for reform rather than simply giving up.
Nigal
9:14:31 AM
7/07/04

True of anything, Nigal.
smiley girl
9:16:35 AM
7/07/04

Interesting, smiley. Are you sure they aren't dipping their hand in the plate-passing-thingy?
bearmagnet
10:06:03 AM
7/07/04

Median salary for Catholics at the bottom of the barrel $20-26K in 20001.

http://www.pulpitandpew.duke.edu/billhowardarticle.pdf

Need to switch religions for the big dough. ;)
bearmagnet
10:10:54 AM
7/07/04

Hey! It took the Catholic Church hundreds of years to steal and pillage those trinkets. How dare you suggest they have a yard sale!
Buddha Bear
5:52:00 PM
7/07/04

This one always killed me---

"Writing for a penny a word is ridiculous. If a
man really wants to make a million dollars, the
best way would be to start his own religion."

L. Ron Hubbard


(You know who Ron Hubbard was, right?)
Tilt
6:01:21 PM
7/07/04

Is that old dead dude that wrote bad SF, yes?
bearmagnet
6:12:07 PM
7/07/04

Yep. Wrote bad SF and founded Scientology.

Don't know if he founded Scientology before or after he came up with that quote...
Tilt
6:15:51 PM
7/07/04

Oh right. Theres a big church in this mansion near where I live. I suppose if that church goes bankrupt we'll get a new starbucks there.
bearmagnet
6:19:30 PM
7/07/04

ST was probably formed right after he said that.
bearmagnet
6:21:41 PM
7/07/04

Those wacky folks in Hollywood seem to like it... LOL
Tilt
9:48:04 PM
7/07/04

You are all going to he11.
Miss Anne Thrope
10:01:02 PM
7/07/04

"Writing for a penny a word is ridiculous. If a
man really wants to make a million dollars, the
best way would be to start his own religion."

L. Ron Hubbard


LOL! Nothing like having your own 501C.
Nigal
8:22:22 AM
7/08/04

Monday, July 12, 2004 · Last updated 12:17 p.m. PT

Child porn found at Austrian seminary

By WILLIAM J. KOLE
ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER

VIENNA, Austria -- A vast cache of child pornography and photos of young priests having sex has been discovered at a Roman Catholic seminary, officials said Monday, leading politicians and church leaders to demand a criminal probe and the resignation of the bishop in charge.

Bishop Kurt Krenn, who oversees the diocese, refused to step down, however, dismissing the images as a "childish prank."

Leaders of the Catholic diocese of St. Poelten where the seminary is located, about 50 miles west of Vienna, spent much of the day in an emergency meeting.

The seminary's director, the Rev. Ulrich Kuechl, resigned along with his deputy, Wolfgang Rothe, the diocese said after the meeting. It did not elaborate.

As many as 40,000 photos and an undisclosed number of films, including child pornography, were found a year ago on computers at the seminary, the respected news magazine Profil reported.



It published several images purportedly showing young priests and their instructors kissing and fondling each other, and said others showed them engaging in orgies and sex games. The child porn came mostly from Web sites based in Poland, the magazine said.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apeurope_story.asp?category=1103&slug=Austria%20Seminary%20Porn&searchdiff=0&searchpagefrom=1
USA
11:43:03 PM
7/12/04

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