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“Some protesters rushed the Capitol and were blocked. Some resisted and were arrested. The Capitol & the counter-protesters were well guarded. However, I can neither confirm nor deny your claims.
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“What our good associates on here kinda miss is that the protesters by and large will take NO financial responsibility for any damages done. As a rule the people doing the crimes are broke leeches on society.

Now here is a neat idea, let em protest, take photos. Then identify and charge them. When "Bobo and his "S.O."" apply for public assistance, prorate it to make up for the damages plus interest.”

“I'm all for freedom of speech and it's expression but I think it detracts from the cause you're marching for when it looks more like a party and Mardi Gras than a protest. And if you break the law in the expression of your free speech, all bets are off Scooter. Ya get what ya deserve.”

“Editorial: Next come the killing fields
The Washington DC Examiner Newspaper, The Examiner
Jan 29, 2007 3:00 AM (7 hrs ago)
Current rank: # 4 of 13,799 articles

WASHINGTON - Many participants in Saturday’s “peace” demonstration on the Mall — including mainstream media journalists covering it — noted the parallels with the anti-war movement of the Vietnam era. Thousands demanded American withdrawal from a nation under siege by totalitarians bent on enslaving millions. Hollywood celebrities and Democrat politicians stood shoulder-to-shoulder on the speaker’s platform. Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., was even a weekend presence, via television from Switzerland, again telling the world how terrible is his country. All that was needed to complete this reconstruction in time was new photos of Jane Fonda consorting with insurgents killing Americans in Iraq in 2007, as she did with the North Vietnamese killing Americans in 1972.


There is, however, one fundamental difference between 1972 and 2007. We know today what comes after the marchers have boarded their buses and headed home, the speeches have ended and the politicians have voted their resolutions. Once the enemy celebrates their victory, blood begins flowing across the killing fields. In Vietnam, millions of South Vietnamese were murdered within weeks of the North’s April 1975 triumph, millions more spent years in brutal “re-education camps” and yet more millions became boat people fleeing the slaughter. In Cambodia, the Khmer Rouge created a Hell on earth that killed millions more innocents. Eventually, millions of Afghanis died because the Soviets were emboldened by America’s defeat in Vietnam to send the Red Army streaming into Afghanistan.

If the “peace” movement succeeds in defeating America again, the blood will again flow across the killing fields, but this time it will create even more unimaginable horror and it will not all be in distant lands far removed from our comfortable neighborhoods here at home. The slaughter of Shia and Sunni in the streets of Baghdad and elsewhere in Iraq will only be the beginning of the mass killing that will follow American defeat. With the Americans gone, al-Qaida will have a secure breeding ground from which to launch countless terrorists attacks against the U.S. and its allies around the world and here in America. Turkey will send troops into Northern Iraq and kill or otherwise eliminate all possibility of an independent Kurdistan. Jihadist radicals in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Egypt and elsewhere in the Muslim world will foment massacres, bombings and assassinations aimed at overthrowing remaining moderate regimes.

Worse yet, Iran will be emboldened to advance its timetable for becoming the dominant power in the Middle East and millions of Jews in Israel will be incinerated, along with hundreds of thousands of neighboring Palestinians, when the world sees the bright flash of Ahmadinejab’s nuclear program consumated in a second Holocaust.

It is difficult to say what America winning in Iraq will look like other than that a stable democratic regime will be in place and al-Qaida will be denied a new sanctuary. There is no such difficulty, however, in saying what America losing in Iraq will look like — a bloodbath of incalculable horror. Are the demonstrators and their allies in Congress and the media prepared to carry that burden on their consciences?

Examiner

http://www.examiner.com/printa-534532~Editorial:_Next_come_the_killing_fields.html”

“Ya know I still await one coherent reply as to my question...Japan Attacked up on December 7, the Nazi Germans attacked our shipping....so why did we invade Italy in 1943?

It is estimated that between September 1943 and April 1945 some 90,000 Allied and 110,000 German soldiers died in Italy[1].


200,000 dead? And that is a low estimate...what a waste. Of course none of the libbies can...it was a Democratic President, and the Republicans never behaved the way the dems are behaving.”

“yes. Blame the protesters for failures of an Admin. How easy and convenient that is.”

“It's hard and difficult work , for the pre chosen few summiters to reach atop, when the sherpas have lead a guidline littered wiih ; knots of truth, tangles of fact and missing sections of reality.”

“If we withdraw from Iraq prematurely and the worst comes to happen, you can be sure that liberals and their media will blame George Bush personally, the Republicans generally, and America globally. Islamist terrorists will never be held to account because they detest the United States of America almost as much as our own Left does.”

“I've seen a few riots in my day. Some were definitely police riots, some seemed due to the behavior of demonstrators who want a riot. Usually the demonstrators who seem to start a riot are ultra-lefts, sometimes they seem like agitators put in to discredit the demonstrators get some heads cracked.

One way you get a police riot is when leadership talks about Demonstrators the way XL does, using phrases like “When your wastes of humanity showed up..." or "So the maggots are without transportation," and providing hostile and innacurate depictions of their political agenda and political leanings ("from the heroes of the protestors...lets see..oooh heres one..The Chinese government").



When I was 13 I watched an anti-war demonstration and saw fire trucks, cop cars and motorcycles charging peaceful demonstrators and saw cops wading into a sit in swing their clubs. I was a bystander, but I barely jumped a fence in time to avoid a cop chargin with a swinging baton.

You don't have to take my word for it, check out some video of the famous march on Selma or of Daly's boys going at the Demonstrators at the '68 Chicago convention.”

“Chicago '68 was definitely a police riot.

When the TV news cameras left the cops went wild on the citizens.”

“Protesting protestors is hard and difficult work. Very much like chasing and yelling at the messenger instead of just reading the message”

““If we withdraw from Iraq prematurely and the worst comes to happen, you can be sure that liberals and their media will blame George Bush personally, the Republicans generally, and America globally. Islamist terrorists will never be held to account because they detest the United States of America almost as much as our own Left does.”
StoveStomper
11:53:21 AM
1/29/07

LOL! Kinda reminds me of the teenager who borrowed his Dad's bike and left it unlocked downtown. When his Dad expected him to take responsibility for the lost bike, he said "don't blame me, blame the bad guys who stole the bike."

Bush has fvcked up and handed the Jihadi's more than they could have hoped for, your defense for him is going to be "don't blame me, blame Al Qeda and the rest of the Jihadi's."”

“Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


Why does the right hate America?”

“VERY GOOD REV...now explain that to the woman who yelled "YOU SUKC" to Clinton.

Or better yet please explain why I cannot take my OWN money and run an advertisement saying "Congressman A says he voted FOR this...however the congressional record shows the opposite." One week before an election?


Or why the Mass Media spreads obvious falsehoods but when privately funded radio starts shining the light the libbies call for a "Fairness Doctrine"?
Oh sorry

All animals are equal, some are more equal than others.”

“"All animals are equal, some are more equal than others."

Like the (mad)man said, protesters are not as equal as those who worship and adore The Dear Leader.”

“It's easy to tell the unread folks here. Hell, I was reading Orwell in the 7th grade.
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“Well Maybe Marko's Boss can read it to him tonight. (LOL)”

“Ignorance can be cured, but not stupidity.”

“Some "Anarchists" did vandalize The Capitol with spray paint. I believe the Capitol Police decided not to intervene. Maybe.”

“Well like I said, there are 10%'ers in all professions and organizations, and different people have different perspectives, so what may appear to be purposefully aggravating behavior on the part of some may appear completely different to a disinterested third party. Furthermore, the actions of a few do not represent the ideals and motives of the whole. If that were the case, I would tell you that on Saturday you participated in a socialist, communist, anti-American, anti-military protest. That's called a hasty generalization.
It is at least misleading to claim that it is the intention of all police to agitate a crowd into rioting simply because that has happened in isolated, highly publicized incidences in the past. Furthermore, one can not compare methods and idealogies of law enforcement in 1968 to methods of police work today. Police work, like any other profession, goes through changes in operating procedures.

As long as we're using personal experiences and observations, I suppose mine are allowed. I've been involved in 3-4 protests/celebrations/car-turning-over-and burning events, whatever you want to call them, involving several thousand people. At no time was it broadcast, ordered, encouraged, or implied that the crowd should be agitated into violence or general disorderly conduct. The overriding goals were protection of life and protection of property. Like I said before, the police are generally overwhelmingly outnumbered, which means trying to stir up a numerically superior crowd would go against everything taught in the physical part of police work. As Nigal says though, once you decide to break the law, whatever happens afterwards is your baby.


I suppose this will turn (or has turned)into an agree to disagree type of topic.

But thanks for remaining civil, BM, that makes it easier to talk about. Lately it doesn't happen that way on a lot of threads around here.
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“I like the attitude of the protesters. It shows them for what they are. They have a 12 year old child speaking for them.”

“I suppose this will turn (or has turned)into an agree to disagree type of topic.

But thanks for remaining civil, BM, that makes it easier to talk about. Lately it doesn't happen that way on a lot of threads around here.
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StickmanWalking
5:31:01 PM
1/29/07

I agree and thank you for your civility, as well.”

“I don't think anyone was trying to argue that was the MO of all police organizations everywhere SW. Stop being so sensitive, Nancy.

I do know what I witnessed in DC during Reagan's term. We were holding a peaceful protest and were completely outnumbered by the Capitol police. They intended to dissuade others from joining and sure as hell tried to provoke a reaction.

A good friend of mine is on a SWAT team so I don’t generalize their behavior to all.”

“Lol, thanks for completely missing the point, fiddle!! Did I use too many big words or something?”

“"...... Stop being so sensitive, Nancy. ......”
Violin
8:45:11 PM
1/29/07


“I thought I already asked you to fight your obsession to post a personal insult after each and every post I make.”
Violin
7:53:48 AM
1/27/07


LOL
I guess ol' Vile is a do as I say, not as I do kind of guy.”

“Stacks of xl -ss post on ignore. it's so cute to them stacked so neatly.”

“I was reading an old thread from 2-3 years ago and noticed I had put USA on ignore when he was posting as Alaska. For some reason I haven't bothered to put his current reincarnation on ignore.”

“Drug aTTics are all the same -just like me.”

“LOL...Vile...that was So YOU

I do know what I witnessed in DC during Reagan's term. We were holding a peaceful protest and were completely outnumbered by the Capitol police. They intended to dissuade others from joining and sure as hell tried to provoke a reaction.

I am certain you can provide a link to a media report.

Now as for Stopping Protest...please explain some of the actions during the CLEENTON administration. Or better yet...give me the list of UN Vetted meetings SHRILLARY has held.”

“I guess ol' Vile is a do as I say, not as I do kind of guy

Owned.”

“The Libbies are really fond of the Million Man Math to figure out numbers.”

“On Jan. 19, 1992 Bill Clinton said, "I want to make it very clear that this middle-class tax cut, in my view, is central to any attempt we're going to make to have a short-term economic strategy."

But on Jan. 14, 1993 at a press conference, Bill Clinton said, "From New Hampshire forward, for reasons that absolutely mystified me, the press thought the most important issue in the race was the middle-class tax cut. "I never did meet any voter who thought that."
?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

On Sept. 8,1992, Bill Clinton said, "The only people who will pay more income taxes are the wealthiest 2 percent, those living in households making over $200,000 a year."

In response to a Bush-Quayle ad that people with incomes of as little as $36,000 would pay more taxes under the Clinton plan, Bill Clinton said on Oct. 1, 1992, "It's a disgrace to the American people that the president (Bush) of the United States would make a claim that is so baseless, that is so without foundation, so shameless in its attempt to get votes under false pretenses."

Yet the NY TIMES in the analysis of Clinton's budget wrote, "There are tax increases for every family making more than $20,000 a year!"

"While Clinton continued to defend his middle-class tax cut publicly, he privately expressed the view to his advisers that it was intellectually dishonest." (The Agenda, by Bob Woodward, p. 31)”

“Plies.”

“Evidence of your hypocrisy/...Yep Uncliff you are right...its just disgusting.”

“This one tried to slip out the back door, but i shoveled it back on the pile.”

“LOL

WASHINGTON (Map, News) - Sandy Berger, who stole highly classified terrorism documents from the National Archives, destroyed them and lied to investigators, is now an adviser to presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton. Berger, who was fired from John Kerry’s presidential campaign when the scandal broke in 2004, has assumed a similar role in Clinton’s campaign, even though his security clearance has been suspended until September 2008. This is raising eyebrows even among Clinton’s admirers. “It shows poor judgment and a lack of regard for Berger’s serious misdeeds,” said law professor Jonathan Adler of Case Western Reserve University, who nonetheless called Clinton “by far the most impressive candidate in the Democratic field.”

http://www.examiner.com/a-977346~He_s_back__Sandy_Berger_now_advising_Hillary_Clinton.html


LOL..only in the Democrat party would you find such incredible abuse being rewarded so.”