Not Fit For Command

“Kerry is friends of the Chicoms

”

“"So how many of you folks passing judgment on Kerry were anywhere near any kind of swift boat during Vietnam?

I'm seeing a lot of experts on something they know nothing about."

So Geo, by the same token how many years have you served as president that gives you the right to pass judgment on Bush? Were there in the National Guard outfit with Bush? I didn’t have to be in the swiftboat with sKerry because the accusations I call up are straight from the man’s mouth. He admitted to his war crimes. If sKerry wants to strut around saying, “I served in Vietnam.”, every three seconds then by all means, let’s go back there and take a look.

Even after it was all said and done he was a snake in the grass concerning Vietnam. Like when he was pushing so hard for re-establishing trade with Vietnam in the early 90s. What a kind gesture! Of course no one on the left wants to talk about his cousin getting a $905 million contract as soon as we did re-establish trade with them.

Do you know where you were on Christmas eve 1968? SKerry’s record of lying grows by the day. Why should we take his word over anyone else’s?”

“Kerry met with our third largest trading partners and our fastest growing export market? The shame!

Why that photo is nearly as damaging as this one:

”

“"So they were entries in a contest, produced by others, that weren't even selected? Wow Nigal."


They were ads being run on their site. They were responsible. Now, care to apologize for calling me a liar now?”

“Kerry met with our third largest trading partners and our fastest growing export market? The shame!

From the article:

In fact, Marcus is a business partner with the China International Trust and Investment Corp. (CITIC), a firm closely associated with the Chinese military and included on the Website a picture of himself meeting with CITIC officials in China.

[...]

While CITIC is reported by U.S. military authorities to be involved in the international sale of illegal arms it also is interested in obtaining advanced U.S. technology. The Boston Capital Website notes that the firm has been involved with the transfer of advanced U.S. space technology to China.

[...]

the Kerry campaign is refusing to answer any questions about the candidate's privately sponsored trade trip to China or his relationship with Marcus. But it would appear that the presidential candidate has many friends at high levels in Beijing. The Chinese official Internet news outlet of the People's Daily, official newspaper of the Communist Party of China, recently endorsed the senator from Massachusetts for president of the United States.”

“You know Kerry's a bad choice if the Communist Part of China endorses him...”

“Violin's not reading again.”

“Truth V Wicked = Violin?”

“Nigal, there is evidence that Kerry served, in uniform, in combat.

Bush appeared in uniform a couple of times, but the evidence he served seems to have gone missing. At least, he's been unable to produce it.

And no, I was not a president. But I served my time, and I showed up.”

“I still see that right keep attacking the Kerry on his war record. For shame.

Is it because they want to divert attention from there guy?

Maybe.

This lashing out is very telling.

Let's keep it up. It only shows what kind of people support Bush.

Double talkers.

Fear Mongers.

What color are we at today?

These are not new tactics.

They have done this before and will again, I should know.

The was a leader that was elected that was accused of the same thing you accuse Kerry of:

He's dangerous.

He flip-flops.

He doesn't have any idea how to handle foreign policy.

His record is awful.

He comes from big money.

He has no economic plan.

However, just because Bush is a Republican, these things about him are forgotten.

Nothing about:

How he has improved.

How he has completed his tasks.

How he has spent us out of debt.

How he has made a great impression on the world.

How he has made made us, along with the world, safer.



All we see is attack....attack....attack.

Round and round we go...


Attack...attack...attack....


The issues are lost between the nonsence of the pile on.

The times must change.

If they don't there will be problems, shortly.


Bush will be an embattled President his he is re-elected.

He has a case pending against him.

This will trouble him, like it troubled Clinton in his second year.

Do we want to feed the press, or get on with forwarding this country?





You choose, but choose wisely...!”

“"Nigal, there is evidence that Kerry served, in uniform, in combat."

Yes we have proof sKerry served and served very poorly and criminally. This is a good thing? I’d rather go with a guy who didn’t serve out his full service than someone who broke the Geneva Convention and committed war crimes. But then again, there’s no evidence that Bush DIDN’T serve his time either. Remember the old saying that the burden of proof is on the accuser? Naw, you’d rather just keep repeating rhetoric and half truths.”

“Remember the old saying that the burden of proof is on the accuser?

So, you have proof of what you charge Kerry of doing. Let's see it.”

“Do you really believe this stuff or are you deliberately lying Nigal?

He shot a teenager in the back? You mean the one who was firing on his boat just moments earlier, before Kerry ordered the boat driven straight at him, Kerry jumped off, chased him down and killed him, earning him a Silver Star?

What's this crap about Christmas 1968 and a $905 million contract?

Is this your idea of a positive campaign?

You guys are desperate you're rolling in filth.


The election is pretty much decided now. Just go quietly and try to maintain a shred of decency.”

“LOL@Q! Nice to see your still reading even if you can’t muster the guts to directly address my posts. Shoot from the side as always I see. Heehee!

Four months of committing war crimes is hardly a glowing service record. More like an indictment. Exposing the man for what he is not deflection from the other guy. But you’re right, I should just forget all about his crimes, his lies, his voting record. All this doesn’t matter. Just what he portrays at photo ops is important.”

“So, here we keep going.


About every month or so---

It's the same stuff --

Short term memory problems ---

Regarding facts already covered --

The pot is full --

It has a layer --

So it must be stirred again --

Keep it up --

We don't want it to get stale --

For if you don't stir, you shall surely fail --”

“Nigal, you crack me up, Dude. Photo ops, ... that's rich.

Bush reading to kids on 9/11

Bush walking into the mess hall in Iraq

Bush on an aircraft carrier in a flight suit declaring victory in a war that wasn't quite over yet

Bush with the firemen in New York

Naw, they're not photo ops.”

“To one who thinks they are talked of ~~~~

And fishes everyday ~~~

To assume is a dangerous thing ~~~

And a price that you pay ~~~

For there are others ~~~

That might share your view ~~~

Your "skills", are what will be the undoing, of you ~~~”

““ So, you have proof of what you charge Kerry of doing. Let's see it."

SKerry admitted in testimony that he committed war crimes. I only use his own admissions.

"Nigal, you crack me up, Dude. Photo ops, ... that's rich.”

When did I say Bush didn’t do photo opps? The sKerry supporters are the ones who never want to talk about sKerry’s record. Every time it gets brought up all they want to do is talk about Bush…just like you did.”

“Yeah, well, Bush is the president, so that's why people want to talk about him. What's he done that should make me want to vote for him? Here's your chance. Sell me!”

“The last thing wanted ***

Are lies that are presented ***

To be comforting and reassuring ***

To those that support ideals ***

That rape, pillage and steal ***

Are empty and weak ***

And it is known of who I speak ***”

“Hmmm laqtis, let me think ...”

“That's a hard one ...”

“Can you give me a hint?”

“Ummmm, did I have a brain fart and vote for him?”

“Great! Let's talk about Kerry's record.

He graduated from Yale and volunteered to go into the military. He asked to be sent to Viet Nam. After a six-month tour, he volunteered for a second and asked to be assigned the very dangerous Swift Boat duty where he earned three purple hearts, a Bronze Star and a Silver Star in four short months.

As a Senator, Kerry uncovered Iran-Contra and the narco-terrorism links that brought down BCCI.

That’s why the right hates him so much. He took a dent out of a profitable side business.”

“"Do you really believe this stuff or are you deliberately lying Nigal?

As I told Geo, I go by sKerry’s actions and what he says.

“He shot a teenager in the back?”

I never said he shot him in the back. And the g-nade launcher was empty. The child was not a threat to them. And as you said, he was running away.

“What's this crap about Christmas 1968 and a $905 million contract?”

sKerry’s Christmas Lie: http://www.arts.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2004/08/10/do1002.xml
For decades, John Kerry has told anyone who'd listen that at Christmas 1968 he was on an illegal mission inside Cambodia. On the floor of the Senate in 1986, while attacking President Reagan for turning Central America into another Vietnam quagmire (wrong as usual), Kerry said: "I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by the Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have the President of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia. I have that memory which is seared – seared – in me."
The illegal Yuletide foray was so seared into him that he brought it up at every opportunity.
As he told the Boston Herald in 1979, "I remember spending Christmas Eve of 1968 five miles across the Cambodian border being shot at by our South Vietnamese allies who were drunk and celebrating Christmas. The absurdity of almost being killed by our own allies in a country in which President Nixon claimed there were no American troops was very real."
LBJ was President on Christmas Eve 1968, but let that pass. Here's an Associated Press story from 1992: "Navy Lt John Kerry knew he had no business steering his Mekong River patrol boat across the border into Cambodia, but orders were orders… By Christmas 1968, part of Kerry's patrol extended across the border of South Vietnam into Cambodia."
Just one problem. It never happened. Every living officer up his chain of command says Kerry was never ordered to Cambodia. At least three of his five crewmen say their boat was never in Cambodia. And if you don't believe any of his fellow veterans, read the excerpt from Kerry's own journal published in Tour Of Duty, the recent hagiography by Douglas Brinkley.
On December 24 1968, Kerry was at Sa Dec – that's well inside Vietnam, 55 miles from the Cambodian border – and waxing wistful to his diary about a quiet Christmas far from home: "Visions of sugarplums really do dance through your head and you think of stockings and snow and roast chestnuts and fires with birch logs and all that is good and warm and real. It's Christmas Eve."
The $905 million came about in 1993 when the company that C. Stewart Forbes (Chief Executive Officer of Colliers International) circumvented the trade embargoes by routing the deal to build a deep sea port in Vietnam through a Singapore partner company. This whole time sKerry was pounding away to have the embargoes lifted and they finally were. What’s the deal? Forbes is sKerry’s cousin. We all know the dirty deals run deep in this whole clan.

”Is this your idea of a positive campaign?”

Who said I was for a positive campaign? The left has been firing off for months now. They set the tone.

”You guys are desperate you're rolling in filth.”

But when you are posting reaching half truths on the Bush Hates Soldiers thread you’re just being a standup guy, right? Hypocrite. LOL!

”The election is pretty much decided now. Just go quietly and try to maintain a shred of decency."

Yeah, right.”

“"Yeah, well, Bush is the president, so that's why people want to talk about him. What's he done that should make me want to vote for him? Here's your chance. Sell me!"

LOL! So just because I’m against sKerry I’m for Bush? Again, you are making assumptions. My aim is not to keep Bush in but to keep sKerry out. Bush has a lot of improving in my eyes but he’s a far cry better than sKerry.”

“So then it is clear to see >>>

So thin was the air to me >>>

Maybe it was that I had to pee >>>

That the hyprocrite did not check his cree >>>



Shot from the side >>>

I am to blame >>>

You give Republicans, a bad name >>>”

“Nigal. Just because the US government denied 30 some odd years ago that we had forces in Cambodia in 1968 doesn't make it so.

Read about the SEALORDS Campaign from the Navy's own history.”

“PBS also reports US operations into Cambodia as early as 1967.”

“He didn't say there were no troops in Cambodia. He said Kerry wasn't one of them. Learn to read.”

“Have any former officers come forward and admitted giving orders to soldiers, during the Vietnam War, to conduct operations in Cambodia?”

“Earlier this week, researchers released a 1972 conversation between Nixon and Kissinger that inferred that Nixon felt the war was lost before the 1972 election. Of course, this was pretty much known by everyone before that point.

So, the most intelligent, reasonable response was to do whatever you could to NOT serve in a useless war. So, Bush was actually much smarter at that time than Kerry.”

“Bush is so smart, he's stupid. :)”

“"Nigal. Just because the US government denied 30 some odd years ago that we had forces in Cambodia in 1968 doesn't make it so."

Where did I say there was never troops in Cambodia? You sure have a way of trying to wiggle away from a subject. The crux of the matter is sKerry lied (again) about his service. He said he was in Cambodia when he wasn't.

He lied.”

“And Kerry was so dangerous back then ****


That the Republicans tried to take him out, so it began ****

Nixion said so himself ****


Bush must have listened to the tapes ****

And looked to Nixon for advice ****


"Tricky Dick must have the way" ****

We all know what a sad day ****



Diarrhea only flows one way ****


It somes from the right, I will say ****”

“Jack off, Back off....Simon Say >>>


This is the game, the right does play >>>


One heart, Two heart, three heart no matter >>>


One who sits behind a computer and critize >>>

Only gets fatter and fatter >>>>!”

“Hyprocrite....Diprocrite....Nine eight ten....

Let's just see how long it's been...

Back in the day, once when there was peace...

Everyone gathered to celebrate feast...

Upon the fire giver, ever so bold...

I'd support Wes Clark, but deny it I will, if you ever told...

So back to the drawing board and search for reason...


Oh hell, just phuck it...



It must be Nigal season!”

“Shhhh! The grown ups are speaking. :)

Hey I really do owe all the Kerry supporters and Kerry himself a bog apology. I was wrong and you were right. He really was a war hero.”

“Q - He's not worth your time or effort.”

“""Naturally, the common people don't want war, but after all, it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a facist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country."

- Herman Goering speaking at the Nuremberg trails after WWII

"Tell them they are being attacked"

The communists were attacking us in Vietnam, and communism is bad because it differs from our democratic republic. Any country that falls to communism, is an attack on the United States.

Denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.

"On Fox News' Hannity and Colmes show on Friday, May 28, 2004, Rear Admiral Roy Hoffman (USN, Retired) accused John Kerry of being a traitor because of his anti-war activities."

"The Vietnamese communists clearly feel that the American anti-war protestors were a very important force in undermining support in the United States for American war efforts, a force that contributed materially to ultimate communist victory in 1975."

Both quotes come from this site, and are based on the alleged fact that a photo of John Kerry meeting with Vietnam diplomats who happen to be communist in 1993 hangs in the War Protestors Hall of the War Remnants Museum in Ho Chi Minh City.

Looks like Mr. Hoffman has been boning up on his Nazi history.”

“No time wasted ****

Not even an ounce ****


Jeepers, Seepers...Wholly cow ****


Funny how there is no rebuttle when he's called out on a fact ****


Accuse and flamboyant, all full of terse.


Trying to come across believible, is his curse.


All kidding aside....the flip-flopper exposed.


Creditibilty has begun erode.


He is what he denouces, this I suppose.”

“"Q - He's not worth your time or effort."

Apparently I am Buddha Bush. Why just knowing Q sits around thinking of me and taking that much time to write poetry about me…well, it just melts my heart. I’ve got the warm fuzzies knowing I drive him so insane. :)”

“Nigal, your "war criminal" meme is old and tired.

Kerry talked honestly about the situations that our soldiers were put in and the results of the orders they were being given. He held those actions up to the word of international law and found that war crimes were being routinely committed. He even used his own experience as an example.

If you hold Kerry accountable for those actions, then you'd need to hold every vietnam vet accountable for similar actions. Personally, I would rather be a little less like the people spitting on the soldiers as they returned and calling them baby-killers. I guess that's just me, though.”

“"Nigal, your "war criminal" meme is old and tired.”

As old as the AWOL, WMDs, ect mantra that has been chanted from the left for how long now? I’m sorry but if there is misinformation being given by your candidate I will expose it at every turn loud and long. Get used to it.

”Kerry talked honestly about the situations that our soldiers were put in and the results of the orders they were being given.”

He has invalidated him through outright lies that he has told about his own service as well as those of others. When a returning soldier lies in order to discredit the government on the floor of the Senate by saying he was in Cambodia in December of ’68 while Nixon (who wasn’t even in office yet!) said there were no troops in Cambodia but later writes in his book that he was 55 miles away dreaming of sugar plums you can sure shlt bet I’m going to stand up and call him a liar.

“He held those actions up to the word of international law and found that war crimes were being routinely committed. He even used his own experience as an example.”

I’m sorry but admition to crimes does not get you a pass in my book. If I killed my wife and then admitted it to show an example of how much of a problem domestic abuse is does this mean I am off the hook? No.

”If you hold Kerry accountable for those actions, then you'd need to hold every vietnam vet accountable for similar actions.”

Every one? Come on. I saw an interview with some of the Swifties and many said they were there with sKerry and served three times longer than he did and they said they never even saw the things he described.

“Personally, I would rather be a little less like the people spitting on the soldiers as they returned and calling them baby-killers. I guess that's just me, though."

I wouldn’t do that as you suggest but I will hold war criminals accountable for their actions and if they did in fact kill babies I have no problem calling them babykillers.

Get used to me buddy and just pray sKerry doesn't get into office cause it'll be a long four years for you.”

“"I saw an interview with some of the Swifties and many said they were there with sKerry and served three times longer than he did and they said they never even saw the things he described."


You might just want to google "My Lai Massacre" or "tiger force".”

“Oh please! First of all, you are vastly overestimating your effect on my well-being.

Second, I'm not going to try to change your mind, but just post the quote you're referring to, with my own bit of emphasis.

There are all kinds of atrocities and I would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free-fire zones. I conducted harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50-caliber machine guns which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon against people. I took part in search-and-destroy missions, in the burning of villages. All of this is contrary to the laws of warfare. All of this is contrary to the Geneva Conventions and all of this ordered as a matter of written established policy by the government of the United States from the top down.”

“So he blames it on the uppers and just gets off scott free? Sorry, again, no pass. He lied about the command concerning Cambodia so why not here too? What about his own comanders who said this was not true at all? Most people would say they were lying in order to save themselves. But if we examine the outright lies sKerry has been busted on it would appear that the comanders would be the more believable party.

And of course there's the burden sKerry must explain how out of the some 250 sailors who served in his own division only, what?, 4 or 5 stand up with him (one of whom only served 2 days with him!)? These guys were there and served with him. No, they weren't in the same boat with him but they were there with him. Face facts, there are a whole lot more guys who served with him standing up and calling him a liar than guys willing to call him a stand up guy. This fact and his known lies are just too overwhelming.”

“No one's responded to The-Crease analysis. Typical - ignore facts and maybe they'll go away.”