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Russia Hit?View Messages“MSNBC has reported that two airplanes have crashed in Russia. Details are fuzzy right now, but one report says that it exploded in the sky before it crashed. Both planes left the same airport. Second plane has no contact at the moment.” 6:10:36 PM 8/24/04 “Two Russian passenger jets crash Tuesday, August 24, 2004 Posted: 7:05 PM EDT (2305 GMT) (CNN) -- Two planes have disappeared from radar nearly simultaneously in separate incidents in Russia Tuesday night, and one was confirmed to have crashed, the Russian Emergency Ministry said. A passenger jet carrying 34 passengers and eight crew members in the Tula region crashed about 160 kilometers (100 miles) south of Moscow, the ministry said. Witnesses reported seeing the plane explode before it crashed, the Russian news agency Interfax reported. A ministry spokeswoman said the wreckage was located ablaze and that no one survived. Government-run news agency Ria Novosti reported that the plane's wreckage was in two separate locations. The second plane, carrying 44 passengers and eight crew members, apparently went down about 160 kilometers (100 miles) from Rostov-on-Don, in southern Russia, Ria Novosti reported. The spokeswoman said she could confirm only that the second plane had been lost to radar. The first plane disappeared from radar at 10:56 p.m. (2:56 p.m. ET), the news agency said. The Tupolev-134 had taken off from Moscow's Domodedovo Airport and was en route to Volgograd, in southern Russia. The spokeswoman said the wreckage was located ablaze and that no one survived. The second plane, a Tupolev-154, disappeared from radar at 10:59 p.m. (2:59 p.m. ET) after having taken off from the same airport en route to Sochi, a tourist resort on the Black Sea in southern Russia, the ministry spokeswoman reported. The Tupolev-154 is a standard medium-range airliner on domestic flights in Russia, according to aviation websites” 6:31:05 PM 8/24/04 “Copycat wannabes?” 2:45:37 AM 8/25/04 “Obviously the fault of gay marriage advocates.” 7:18:36 AM 8/25/04 “This is indeed rather queer.” 7:46:38 AM 8/25/04 “Don't worry laqtis you're communnist pals will get to the bottome of it fast.” 7:46:52 AM 8/25/04 “WOW! Made it through a whole post without a misspelled word! Good for you. Somebody give him a cookie.” 8:01:41 AM 8/25/04 “Gee laqtis, someone dislikes you enough to call you a "communist". You must feel special. Maybe people who throw around the word "communist" were born stupid or maybe it was the PCP or maybe the glue-sniffin'.” 8:14:10 AM 8/25/04 “I was expecting "Pinko" or "Commie", myself.” 8:17:43 AM 8/25/04 “I have him on ingore. I got up this morning hoping to hear more details of this on the news, but it seems like info is pretty sparse at the moment. All I've really heard is that so far they've found no sign of terrorism. What are the signs of terrorism?” 8:18:35 AM 8/25/04 “I'm turning a lovely shade of red, MarkO! I love being defined by two-bit idiots. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. I know I could crawl down in the mud and call him nothing but a goose-stepping, book burning, brown shirt, but I won't.....” 8:20:05 AM 8/25/04 “Yeah laqtis, "Nazi" is soooo '30s.” 8:21:19 AM 8/25/04 “They're saying "foul avaiation fuel" as a possible cause. Who knows?” 8:23:29 AM 8/25/04 “It's just too fishy to be accidental. I feel sorry for the famlies and I hope the Russians bring them to justice. Phucking cowards.” 8:23:30 AM 8/25/04 “Get 'em, Nigal!” 8:30:30 AM 8/25/04 “"They're saying "foul avaiation fuel" as a possible cause. Who knows?" I heard on NPR that the second plane had sent a signal that they were being hijacked. As you said, who knows. The Russians always play this stuff close to the vest.” 8:34:36 AM 8/25/04 “1.I dindn't call laqtis a communist. I said his communinist pals would figure it out. Knowing his left-leaning tendencies I just wnated to reassure him that his communnist pals would sort everything out and figure out what happned. 2. If I ddid, whats wrong with being a communist? I've never said thate there is anything wrong with being a communnist. 3. When did I say anylthing about goosesteeping or burning books? I think all books should be publishedand read. MarkO you must have attneded the latis school of reading comprehension. Oh one more thing here's an abcnews update: http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/ap20040825_168.html” 8:51:09 AM 8/25/04 “Oh, crap! bales broke his streak. Man. If anything, bales is a waffler. And a toilet bowl sniffer.” 8:55:22 AM 8/25/04 “There was no streak. His original post continues to confuse you're and your. But then, confusion seems about normal.” 8:59:03 AM 8/25/04 “Anyone heard anything new? Yahoo news is still saying the same thing” 9:02:05 AM 8/25/04 “At the very least, I can always point to someone like him when my spelling takes a dive. Thanks for just being you, bales. You are truly sepcial!” 9:02:41 AM 8/25/04 “Nice touch laqtis, spelling special in a way that bales will understand.” 9:03:33 AM 8/25/04 “Eye new yu wold git it, geeyo!” 9:06:53 AM 8/25/04 “Geobeet don't try to confuse laqtis by trying to teach him Brithish/Canadien English. http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/ap20040825_168.html” 9:07:05 AM 8/25/04 “"Brithish/Canadien English...." OK, I'm stumped. Just WTF is this?” 9:10:04 AM 8/25/04 “Geobeat laqtis didn't misspell "special" on puropose. He just can't spell or read. I just went back and proofreda my first post (the one that Laqtis said didn't have any msispelled words) "Communist" is misspelled as "communNist" and "Bottom" is misspelled as "bottomE". Two good catchecs there Q. Laqtis your so thick headed that wehn you try to sarcastically make fun of somebody all you do is show you're own ingnorance. Maybe you were fired from you're last job becaus of you're poor spelling and reading comprehension skills?” 9:11:25 AM 8/25/04 “Bale would tell you, but he doesn't know. He may be sepcial, but he's not omniscient. (This should be fun!)” 9:12:36 AM 8/25/04 “Laqtis your so thick headed that wehn you try to sarcastically make fun of somebody all you do is show you're own ingnorance. Maybe you were fired from you're last job becaus of you're poor spelling and reading comprehension skills?" bales Whoa Nellie, the man either has a fine sense of humor or he's dumber than dirt.” 9:17:13 AM 8/25/04 “When was I fired? Your abuse of the written word goes beyond anything I could even put you down with. Please, keep posting and making my point!” 9:17:35 AM 8/25/04 “I think I'm learning to decipher bales' code. Bales is a mispelling of bumpkin.” 9:18:53 AM 8/25/04 “bales = IceT?” 9:43:37 AM 8/25/04 “Nigal I would rather shave my head with a cheese grater while chewing on alumimum foil than be Icetea.” 9:52:05 AM 8/25/04 “Dang Nigal, you pi$$ed bales off so bad he spelled everything right!” 9:53:30 AM 8/25/04 “Wasn't meant as an insult. Sorry. I agree with you on most topics and you mispell a word here and there. Just like Tea.” 9:54:09 AM 8/25/04 “I think "communist pals" implies that one is "communist"....... Question for right-wing loonies: Just what the hell is a "communist" these days? Is that like calling someone a "horse's ass", which is a figure of speech? Why not come up with something new but equally meaningless? Come on, let's have an original insult! Shlt hook Ass hat(one of Mutt's favorites) ????” 9:58:35 AM 8/25/04 “"Why not come up with something new but equally meaningless?" OK. Tater Nuts. :)” 10:00:38 AM 8/25/04 “I'm by no means on the ritgh wing liet alone a right wing loonie, but I will answer you're question - A communiist now is the same thing a communist was 20 years ago. The communists parties jsut changed their names but are still in power in most of the old Soviet bloc. And most, if not all, of their policies and procediures are the same - cronyism, repression of ethnic, religious, and political minorities, rampant corruption and nepotism, etc.” 10:07:00 AM 8/25/04 “Good one, Eagle Puke!” 10:07:39 AM 8/25/04 “" - cronyism, repression of ethnic, religious, and political minorities, rampant corruption and nepotism, etc....." He's talkng about Commies, right? This kid is RIIIICH!” 10:11:06 AM 8/25/04 “I'm so glad we're sticking to the subject of a possible terrorist attack in another country, instead of foolishly beating on each other here.” 10:11:28 AM 8/25/04 “We're just taking up time until those Commies bassturds over there give us some more info. You know how those Commie bassturds are. Always being Commie bassturds, with their Commie bassturd ways and everything. BTW - If a Commie bassturd dumps in the woods, does it make a sound?” 10:15:39 AM 8/25/04 “Oh look who's talking! The biggest troll on TT! Smiley Troll! Sorry. Couldn't help myself. :)” 10:16:39 AM 8/25/04 Back on topic “Latest on cnn.com: "The crashes brought immediate worries of terrorist attacks -- Siberia Airlines, in fact, said on its Web site that its air traffic control center notified it that the Tu-154 had activated a hijack alert. But Federal Security Service (FSB) spokesman Nikolai Zakharov told Russia's Interfax news agency that "at this time, no signs have been found of terrorist acts." He said the investigation was focusing on possible fouled aviation fuel or pilot error, although witnesses said they heard explosions associated with the planes going down." So, nobody is sure of anything at this point.” 10:19:25 AM 8/25/04 “Wrong assumption MarkO, that being pals with someone makes you the same. e.g. "Some of my best friends are democrats". But a GREAT question What is a communist ? From Karl Marx's "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs" sharing the work and wealth, or John Lennon (who did not practice what he preached) "Imagine no possessions I wonder if you can No need for greed or hunger A brotherhood of man Imagine all the people Sharing all the world... " Great vision but unworkable because most humans will not work without incentive. Concept is that all work is voluntary and all wealth is pooled, it fails when one lazy S.O.B. does not pull their weight, or one greedy S.O.B. takes more than they need, or when despite everyones work the collective wealth does not meet the society's needs, sort of like a farming commune would fail in Death Valley.” 10:22:02 AM 8/25/04 “"" - cronyism, repression of ethnic, religious, and political minorities, rampant corruption and nepotism, etc....." That sounds like the Republican party. bails, if you are a Repub, there is no moderate or middle-of-the-road anymore.” 10:26:39 AM 8/25/04 “I think maybe Russia might need new planes? Maybe we could send them one of our bankrupt(ing)Airlines?” 10:31:11 AM 8/25/04 “Wow. That didn't come out right. I mean to say, that maybe it was mechanical failure and maybe their Airlines are in as much working order as their Nuclear Weapons program (I.e. submarines, missiles, etc.) I have to stop typing now and try to dislodge thy foot from thy mouth.” 10:47:44 AM 8/25/04 “MarkO did you ever read me ytpe that I was a republican? How about some of these other contiuations of communism clothed in new names: rigging elections, controlling the press and media, extra-judicial pusnishement, etc. I offer some exam;les - Beyellorussia, Turkmenistan, Kazahkstan, Moldaova, Uzbekistan, etal. BYW Nigal I take no offfense at being equated with Ice tea (as I take no foffense at mere electronic bits and bytes on a computer screen) but I did want to make it abudndantly clear that I am not that immature little nut job.” 11:02:06 AM 8/25/04 “Thanks for the education, manuka. I know what communism is but it has gotten to be a common insult for people of a right-wing persuasion in reference to anyone who disagrees with their neocon/fascist oink of view. I still contend that bales' usage is intended to imply that laqtis(was it) is one of "them".” 11:19:34 AM 8/25/04 “"How about some of these other contiuations of communism clothed in new names: rigging elections, controlling the press and media, extra-judicial pusnishement, etc" The things you describe are cultural and pre-date communism in those and many other third world two-bit countries. The U.S.S.R. was more "state capitalism" anyway. The goons who ran it just made the people live like "communists".” 11:29:36 AM 8/25/04
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