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Living the Suburban Lifestyle.....View MessagesNever thought I'd be here.... “I grew up in a white poor trash family. We lived out in the sticks, as my dad hated neighbors and nosy town people (thanks dad for giving me a legacy of being distrustful!!) As I wrote in my thread on cookie making...my whole life as a kid I wanted a 'normal' life..and I told myself I would give that to Ford as he got older....(Ok the first few years of his life don't count...but he always had a stable life, even if all we did was hike and travel.) I love the house we live in...it is a small community outside of Bellevue and Seattle, near the foothills of the Cascade Mts. It is a town where I feel safe, where there are trails, parks and a lot of green.I live in city limits, I have neighbors, I have a real yard that is fenced and the landscaping makes me smile...I live in an actual private community. The bus comes and picks up Ford for school. His school is a newer school-huge and modern for a small amount of children.... And then I wonder...am I ACTUALLY cheating Ford out of something by having him live in a 'normal' way? I actually wonder about this! Last year he went to an inner city school, before we bought the house and moved. He was a minority...surrounded by kids from so many countries. He loved it. Of course his school was 1/4 the size, with 1 tiny playground and as old as dirt. I wonder some days will he become a typical boring suburban kid? I don't even think there is a token kid of any other race at his school!! I would hate to see him lose what makes him so unique. But, god, I do not want him to grow up being white trash! Or having to live in a city, where crime was the norm. Yet, somedays, I know I am a fraud...I will be driving and see a cabin or a farm and realize how I would love that lifestyle I had as a kid. Being white trash did have some freedoms-no one expected much and I could run free. Just those quandrys I have.... And there is my ramble of the day.” 1:37:45 PM 9/08/04 “It's interesting how little kids don't notice racial differences, or at least they see through them and treat other kids as.........other kids.” 1:45:08 PM 9/08/04 “Ford liked the old school-he was learning Spanish, Korean, and Russian to name a few, as the school was multi-lingual. Which was cool! But....he does a, ah, wealthier school district now, so they have more teachers.” 1:53:59 PM 9/08/04 “Are you saying your folks had poor trash? Are you bragging that you were lacking trash?” 1:54:59 PM 9/08/04 “Normal? I think one should first define "normal", then determine if they are getting that kind of life. The beauty of it to me is this... "normal" is what we as parents can give to our children by loving them and giving them a sense of belonging, security, adventure, & all of those other thhings that make up life. I have a feeling you are doing the best you can for your son! Keep up the great work...He'll thank you for it later.” 1:56:05 PM 9/08/04 “Learning the languages seems very cool.” 1:58:47 PM 9/08/04 “I believe "normal" would be defined as Humans living a terrestrial kind of lifestyle. Anything else, aquatic, arboreal, homestead in the clouds, might be defined as abnormal.” 1:59:22 PM 9/08/04 “Well, you aren't teaching him to "hate [the] neighbors and nosy town people" so I think you are doing fine.” 2:04:29 PM 9/08/04 “JOh my LOrd ,apple Sauce ,sarbar is'nt doing so too very good a job .Her Personage is teaching Her child theat some an other chlildren are'nt as good because theyr'e Poor White Trash .Her Personage prblbaly is'nt doing it on Purpose ,but look at Scarbars post-being "Poor White Trash' is'nt 'Normal" theres is some thing wrong with it .This Personage wonders what other kinds of People are'nt "Normal' in Sarbars world and how Her Personage is subconciuously teaching that to Her Son .” 2:04:31 PM 9/08/04 Man, we were SO poor “we didn't even have decent rusty appliances out on our lawn... God, I hate clutter to this day! I cannot keep things more than 3 or 4 years before I give it away. I hate boxes of junk. I hate anything in my yard besides furniture ;-) And no couches! My dad was a freaking pack rat!! When he died last year they spent weeks burning moldy books (he had 100's and 100's of them.) My mom had to open up everything as he hid money all over the house......” 2:04:47 PM 9/08/04 “......or "living" at Madam's Organ?” 2:05:41 PM 9/08/04 Hey MC “I have NO qualms with saying I dislike White Trash people. Poor people are different. Being Po' Trash or White Trash is all a mental thing. That is why I hate going to Wal-Mart on a weekend.... Now, don't you have a cave to go back into, Troll? Nice that you are using "Apple" as your second Troll....nice "she" can spell...now why is it you cannot spell here, but you can when you Troll over on BP.com??? hmmmmmmm” 2:07:19 PM 9/08/04 “Perhaps, MarkO. We were so poor we hate dirt. And the dirt we didn't eat we used for bathing! "...and when there was no crawfish we ate sand" "You ate what?" "We ate sand"” 2:09:21 PM 9/08/04 “I come from poor white trash and shop at Wal Mart all the time... what are you trying to say... huh? Huh?!?!” 2:11:48 PM 9/08/04 “One time, I tried to make the crawdad by myself. Only, I didn't use no water. Just like making popcorn...” 2:14:02 PM 9/08/04 “OH mY LOrd ,sarbar ,this Personage is Him Self and Him Self only .I do'nt go to posting on some an other meessage Forums . Your Personage hates to be going to Wallmart on the Week End becaue Your Personage hates White Trash ?Would it be OK then for some an other Personage to say She hates going to some an other Different Walmart on teh Weekends because too so very many Black People are in that some an other Walmart on the Week End ?Proabably if Your Personage said that ,every some an other Personage on this web site Message Board would get mad ,do'nt You think ?” 2:14:28 PM 9/08/04 “It's the rich white trash ya gotta watch out for.” 2:15:17 PM 9/08/04 “At least Sarbar's son will know how to SPELL. Troll.” 2:15:39 PM 9/08/04 “Oh Myh LOrd ,Diecentral ,and His Personage will know to not llike some an other Personages because of who They are or wehere They live or what They nlook like or How much money They have .” 2:20:06 PM 9/08/04 dicentra “BTW... on MC's planet it is "SPEL" not "SPELL". Don't confuse him please.” 2:20:57 PM 9/08/04 LMAO!! “Yeah, MC must have realized that we all know who he really is...and always will be..lol!” 2:49:34 PM 9/08/04 “ ”2:55:42 PM 9/08/04 “Let me guess HikerBoy, you don't have children with ADHD, do you?” 2:58:12 PM 9/08/04 “Oh my Lrod ,Sar Bar ,changeing the Subject wo'nt change the Fact that YOur Personage is teaching Your Son that its is OK to not like some an other People because theyr'e "poor White Trash " .” 2:59:26 PM 9/08/04 “nah... she'll teach him to kick judgemental trolls. Power wedgies from Ford. Yeah. :)” 3:25:31 PM 9/08/04 “Oh My Lord ,this Personage is NOT Jusgmental (not to mention NOT a Troll ) .Scarbar is the Personage who Jusges some an other People as 'Poor White Trash " .NOt to Mention that what Sarbars Personage said about to not Going to go wto Wall Mart on the Week End because of "POOr White Trash" .If Your Personage said that about an Racial or Ethn ic Minority Personage You would be in big Trouble .Why wo'nt Your Personage admit at lesat that Much ?” 3:29:04 PM 9/08/04 “So you go to wall mart much mc?” 3:30:16 PM 9/08/04 “Oh, being trashy is an equal opportunity..lol!! Any race can be po' trash..lol! Of course, the worst are trashy people in gravy stained t-shirts and 2 size small leggings....ugh, I had one behind me at Safeway yesterday. She was nasty! Of course her constant scratching probably meant she was tweaking.......nummy!” 3:43:27 PM 9/08/04 Ritalin war! “Too many children in North America are doped up!” 3:43:55 PM 9/08/04 Give Bearmagnet “his ritalin!” 3:45:08 PM 9/08/04 “LOL! I'm sure I would have been given some if it was around when I was a lad! Lucky for me and the world it wasn't!” 3:48:39 PM 9/08/04 bearmagnet “are you saying you were poor white trash?! the horrors!” 3:53:26 PM 9/08/04 “How does Ritalin conect with PWT? We were PWE” 3:54:43 PM 9/08/04 “or is that thorazine?” 3:56:34 PM 9/08/04 Many kids “are given Ritalin that are in lower economic groups...because their parents don't realize they can fight the schools that tell the kids must be on it. That is a sad fact these days!” 3:57:24 PM 9/08/04 “Wow, sarbar. I had no idea.” 3:59:52 PM 9/08/04 “I had a friend in HS that was on ritalin b/c the school said she had to be... then she kept getting in trouble b/c it made her fall asleep during one of her afternoon classes...every day! Drugging our children isn't the answer. Keeping them occupied, and not by tv and video games, but by hiking and riding bikes... IS. Theres's my rant for the day. Ford rocks, btw. :)” 4:00:07 PM 9/08/04 “BTW... Ritalin is supposed to be swallowed whole. I hear that it's a pretty good recrational drug... it just needs to be chewed so you eliminate the time delay of the drug and get the full effect all at once.” 4:42:40 PM 9/08/04 “My wife teaches in a school in a low-rent area, and is the one to ask for the conferences where the mother is told to get Ritalin. The reason so many low-rent schools ask for so many kids to go on Ritalin? So many low-rent mothers drank/smoked/snorted through their whole pregnancy and gave their kids ADHD! It isn't the schools that are to blame here, folks, as usual its the parent's fault and they want to shift the blame/responsibility to the schools. My wife has ADHD, by the way.” 10:47:27 AM 9/09/04 “Yes, most poor people are drug addicts. And lazy.” 12:26:12 PM 9/09/04 And another thing! “The percentage of N. American children on Ritalin is way out of proportion to the rest of the "first world". Is Europe that more prosperous that they don't have ghettos filled with drug moms? No. the Drug Companies in America have completed one of the most successful campaign barrages ever. More often then not, there is an extremly shady connection between Drs. and pharmaceutical companies. Ethics and conflict of interest seem to be losing sway among the medical profession.” 12:30:14 PM 9/09/04 “What I like are the people who send their kids off to a week long camp with me and don't send the medications. BTW I was a drug addict and I've been accused of being lazy by my wife, does that make me poor?” 12:30:16 PM 9/09/04 “BTW I was a drug addict and I've been accused of being lazy by my wife, does that make me poor?" ChuckD 12:30:16 PM 09/09/04 At least by default.” 12:33:35 PM 9/09/04 “In that school's area, yes. Like sarbar said, there is a difference between "trash" and "poor". Many of the people in that area are "trash". Don't want to take responsibility for themselves or their children. Thus, the Ritalin.” 12:33:43 PM 9/09/04 “That was a response to bearmagnet, not ChuckD. ChuckD - No.” 12:36:10 PM 9/09/04 “I think we should sterilize "them".” 12:36:26 PM 9/09/04 bearmagnet “should we start with you?” 12:37:47 PM 9/09/04 “You don't have to limit a child's horizons just because you live in the burbs. It's more about the parents than the location.” 12:38:07 PM 9/09/04 “That's a mighty big generalization, tech. What about "rich" children on Ritalin?” 12:39:33 PM 9/09/04 Di “I'm not a "them"! I have a card to prove it!” 12:40:52 PM 9/09/04
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