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Well now we know why Ana Lucia and Libby got pulled over for drunk driving. I'm guessing they had just filmed that episode and were out having a few because they'd been written off the show.

I still wonder what the back story is with Libby and why she was in the mental hospital with Hurley. I'm guessing we're still going to find out eventually even if she's dead now.

So I wonder how the others got Micheal to do their bidding? Maybe they've brain washed him somehow, or they threatened to kill Walt if he didn't?
Bison
7:39:02 AM
5/04/06

Libby is a psychiatrist isn't she?
Sassafras
7:42:15 AM
5/04/06

i thought it was too much of a co-inci-dinc when michael came tumbeling out of the woods.
i think the did brain wash him. I mean #&%!$...there's a lot I would do if it comes to my kids. wouldn't take much to brainwash me.

I got a bad feeling that hurrleys gfriend is dead and not Ana. Ana is pregnant with Sawyers baby. remember she lost hers when she got shot? Didn't they tell her she could never have kids again?
Gemini
7:45:27 AM
5/04/06

Gem is so mean.
StoveStomper
7:46:29 AM
5/04/06

Libby's not a pyschiatrist, she was a patient in the mental hospital with Hurley. That's why Hurley remembers her from "somewhere."

One stupid thing in last night's episode. Sawyer reaches for his gun when Jack confronts him, but it's not there. Uhhhhhh... He didn't notice that the gun was gone while he was getting dressed after getting it on with Ana Lucia? Please.

And Jack's dad has been in about five episodes now, how could you miss him?
last edited: 5/04/06 7:56:20 AM
Bison
7:54:40 AM
5/04/06

libby's gone. the actress took another full time gig. that's why they killed her off.
sacco
7:54:55 AM
5/04/06

I wanna see a picture of the bearded guy.

we have seen him 2 or 3 times...and I have never checked if he looks like jacks dad. yes, actually now i remember, I did check, and he looked more like santa claus. his face was too jolly.

Can't be Jack's Dad then.


Bison, I thought the same thing. why didnt' he realize his gun was missing after he got laid? but then I remembered...lower brain, lower brain...and all of a sutton it all made sense. hahahaha.
j/k...I was thinking the same thing.
last edited: 5/04/06 7:57:58 AM
Gemini
7:55:56 AM
5/04/06

Gosh, I have NOT missed jack's dad, neither have I missed the bearded guy.


I tried to figure out if he COULD be the bearded guy!!!!!!!
Gemini
7:59:05 AM
5/04/06

too bad sawyer didn't get shot. he was interesting for the first few episodes last season, but is totally useless and annoying this whole season. weakest character on the show.
sacco
8:01:16 AM
5/04/06

Oh, OK I reread things, I understand the confusion now.
Bison
8:01:44 AM
5/04/06

yupp what sacco said.

someone remind me...who else from "them" did ana kill? I know about the first guy, but can't remember anyone else.

OHHHH, and I see where I did confuse you guys!!! shucks!!! sorry 'bout that.
last edited: 5/04/06 8:05:43 AM
Gemini
8:03:27 AM
5/04/06

didn't echo kill one? could he have been talking about that?
sacco
8:05:28 AM
5/04/06

I don't know, sounded like he was talking directly to her. He knew a lot about her too, meaning comunication must've been good.
I think he would've known that echo killed the other guy and not ana.
Gemini
8:07:35 AM
5/04/06

ya i know, but maybe when he said "we're good people, you (meaning plural, "your group") killed 2 of us

semantics, but i'm just guessing.
sacco
8:09:20 AM
5/04/06

yeah I know...i am just guessing too. all one big #&%!$ing guess!

i still want to see a picture of the bearded santa man. he must be someone we would recognize without it. maybe not from the regulars, but from the flash backs.
last edited: 5/04/06 8:23:55 AM
Gemini
8:20:30 AM
5/04/06

OK, you east coasters have had enough time to sort things out, and you've, well, botched some of it, frankly.

1 - "The bearded guy" is NOT Jack's dad. Remember we saw him without the beard in the episode that revealed what happened with Claire in that other hatch (the one where they eventually found the beard, etc. in the locker).

2 - I, too, initially thought that the actresses playing Ana Lucia and Libby were out partying after getting dumped from the cast, but that incident happened almost a year ago - too long. More likely, the producers got sick of their antics (probably other stuff going on, too, that we don't know about), so had them written out.

3 - Michael has been brainwashed.

4 - Didja like how when Jack's dad and Ana Lucia were driving along the waterfront and Jack's dad opened the car door into Sawyer?

5 - Ana killed one of "them" with a rock when they came to take the kids. There was a struggle, then WHAMMO! Head split open. Dead "them."
BowlderMan
8:43:40 AM
5/04/06

yes, she killed ONE!!! but NOT two!

hey..did you check this site
http://www.thehansofoundation.org/
It's been there for a while I think, but they changed it a little.

There active projects are interesting to say the least.

yeah...I remembered what the bearded guy looks like.

loved it when sawyer got beat with the car door. dumb ass! just shows you, looks are not all.

so anyone recognize the blond chick that jacks dad talked to? she sounded like clair, but didn't look like her I dont think.
last edited: 5/04/06 8:48:55 AM
Gemini
8:48:02 AM
5/04/06

One during the "raid," then the guy who infiltrated them with the pointy stick. That's a total of two.

Yeah, she sounded like Claire - my first thought, too. But you're right, it wasn't her.
BowlderMan
8:51:22 AM
5/04/06

When Jack's dad was arguing at the door with the woman, he said something like "I have the right to talk to my daughter...".
matt, the webmaster
9:24:28 AM
5/04/06

Yes! Good point, matt! I forgot about that!
BowlderMan
9:30:42 AM
5/04/06

I caught that too, matt.
StoveStomper
9:31:13 AM
5/04/06

Wonder if it was Claire's mom? Clair could be Jack's sister?

I thought for sure in one episode Libby told someone she was a counselor or something?
Sassafras
10:13:39 AM
5/04/06

matt, do you realize how we all kiss your behind?? you are the king of this site [and I mean that in a completely non-butt kissing way]

hahahhaha
last edited: 5/04/06 10:22:07 AM
Gemini
10:18:03 AM
5/04/06

I missed an episode a while back, but not only is Libby a clinical psychiatrist, apparently she was in the nut house with Hurley. As a patient!!

Um, maybe "nut house" isn't politically correct....
BowlderMan
10:42:53 AM
5/04/06

they showed her all wacky looking. she WAS nuts, that's for sure.

hanso foundation is using them as lab rats for their life extension project and their mental health appeal project.
Gemini
10:48:13 AM
5/04/06

I seriously doubt that Libby was ever a clinical phsychologist. I think that's just something that she has a lot of experience with so that's what she told people she was.

Ana Lucia and Libby were arrested Dec. 2 which is well within the timeframe where they would have known that they we're being written out, this episode could certainly even have been in the can by then.
Bison
11:01:09 AM
5/04/06


libby's gone. the actress took another full time gig. that's why they killed her off.”
sacco
8:54:55 AM
sacco
11:02:26 AM
5/04/06

Don't be so sure that Libby is dead. She was holding some large rectangular box in front of her, which makes me wonder if the thing somehow protected her from the shot being fatal.

When they first introduced the second group, Libby said that she wasn't a medical doctor, but she was a psychiatrist. Maybe she was both a psychiatric patient and a psychiatrist.
Creek Dancer
11:05:32 AM
5/04/06

I seriously doubt that Sacco, she would have known that she was being killed off several months ago, I suspect that she started looking for new work then. No Actor/Actress would leave a top show for a pilot.
Bison
11:06:28 AM
5/04/06

that's a good point bison. lem'me rephrase then:



libby's gone. the actress has another full time gig starting soon.

just like when you drop your keys in molten lava- let'm go man, they're gone.
sacco
11:13:41 AM
5/04/06

What was the Funeral Jack had to get to at the Airport? or was it his DAD he was bringing back (dead) Yeah Im Lost
nimrod
11:23:20 AM
5/04/06

he tried to get his dead dad onto the plane.
Gemini
11:24:24 AM
5/04/06

Yes Jack was taking his dad's body back home, he was trying to make sure that the body got on the plane.
Bison
11:24:56 AM
5/04/06

So How can he be the Bearded One? How did his dad die or WHO killed him?

I thought libby had a Pillow in front of her not a box? Ouch!
nimrod
11:32:07 AM
5/04/06

He isn't the bearded guy, his dad was an alky and drank himself to death.
Bison
11:35:06 AM
5/04/06

Im sticking with someone from the cast Killed his Dad.

Also I cant get it straight for each character why their in Sidney? Maybe they had to stop first for a connecting flight?

Michael?
Locke? Is he Austrailian?
Only if I could remember the entire Cast
The Big Guy? Is he Austrailian?
Libby?
Anna with Jacks Dad
Sawyer OK
Fugitive Girl? OK
ETC ETC
nimrod
11:43:56 AM
5/04/06

hey!!! if you drink too much your nose and cheeks start to swell, and turn sort of red. kind a like the bearded man


never mind...you won't understand my german humor...

I KNOW JACK'S DAD ISN'T THE BEARDED MAN!!!
Gemini
11:48:43 AM
5/04/06

Michael - Ex-wife died, he was picking up Walt to take him back home.

Locke - Wanted to do this outback adventure deal but they wouldn't let him because he was parapalegic.

Hurley - Was tracking down the source of the numbers.

Libby - don't know what she was doing in Australia, maybe following Hurley?

Sawyer - Went to kill the man who he thought was responsible for his dad killing his mom and then himself.

Jin - trying to run away to the US, supposedly was making a delivery for his Father in law. Sun was obviously with him, she was supposed to get away from Jin in Sydney but changed her mind.

Kate - fugitive, as you know.

Sayid - was working with the CIA to find some explosives and stop a terrorist plot.
last edited: 5/04/06 12:01:13 PM
Bison
11:51:40 AM
5/04/06

Gemini: married to American. Possible spy for Germany!

None of us is perfect. doubt it, but possible. I still think it's all somehow related to life/death, not really good/bad

good/bad is relative.

maybe something like his:
michael: wife died,
walt: lost his mom
locke: parapalegic
Hurley: grand dad died, mental issues
libby: mental
Sawyer: want to kill/dad dead
jin and sun: can't have kids.
kate: killed
sayid: killed and lost shannon
charlie: drugs
ecko: drug dealer and gang leader. u know he killed before
Clair: wanted to give up her child
Ana: lost her baby and killed.
rose and hubby: cancer


jack: hmm... isn't he the only one who saved a life but only because of a miracle?

LIFE/DEATH
last edited: 5/04/06 12:33:35 PM
Gemini
12:32:34 PM
5/04/06

I've thought that the "bad" people have killed someone. To add to gem's list.

Hurley: killed people when the deck collapsed
Jack: killed a person by deciding not to operate on Shannon's dad and instead work on his wife's back
Boone: pushed his baby sitter down the stairs
Jin: killed people for Sun's dad
matt, the webmaster
12:48:56 PM
5/04/06

Don't be so sure that Libby is dead. She was holding some large rectangular box in front of her, which makes me wonder if the thing somehow protected her from the shot being fatal.

Creek Dancer

I thought she was carrying blankets for the picnic. But it still looked like it was filmed for her to be alive.

If Ana is dead maybe that's why the actress took the jail time instead of community service for her DUI. So she didn't have to stay in HI. The one that plays Libby took the community service. Maybe she took it because she still has a job there?
pepsi
1:06:56 PM
5/04/06

Yeah, you're probably right pepsi. She said earlier in the show that she was going to go find some blankets.
Creek Dancer
1:58:27 PM
5/04/06

nevermind what i said about the bearded guy.

this, however, is true:

the same actor was the fat naked guy in "sideways"
Crash Bang
2:41:23 PM
5/04/06

One question,
During the first season, didn't Rose see a black man in a suit? (Much like Jack saw visions of his father) We were lead to believe that the suit man was her husband. Is this a contradiction because the show hadn't yet cast Bernard?
matt, the webmaster
3:22:01 PM
5/04/06

So she didn't have to stay in HI

yea, jeeze, who'd wanna do that?

libby's not dead. we still dont know her backstory yet
Crash Bang
3:26:45 PM
5/04/06

Had to skip all the way down here cause I'm not watching it yet but my wife told me this morning there was a big shocker last night the likes of which we haven't seen sense the exploding earth science teacher in season one. Damn! When is season 2 gonna hit dvd?
DeadNBloated
3:54:42 PM
5/04/06

She's probably not dead but she will be, that much we definitely know since she's filming another show now. So I'm guessing one of the next couple of episodes has her backstory as she's dying.
Bison
3:55:58 PM
5/04/06

Ana is not quite dead yet....as she is lying on the table whilst Jack attempts to save her life, she tells him about a secret his Dad told Ana that we haven't seen in a flashback.

Libby will be survived by the blankets she was holding, however, is Libby real? Or is she just another one of Hurley's imaginary beings and we're lead to believe she somehow ended up on a flight to/from Aussie.

Why did Michael shoot himself? Did he join the others? Or did they brainwash him or bribe him in exchange for Walt and this is why he came back to rescue this wack job in the safe......

Ana and Libby are still under contract by LOST......
stratusloop
4:12:10 PM
5/04/06

So she didn't have to stay in HI

yea, jeeze, who'd wanna do that?

Crash Bang


My guess is someone that no longer has a job and needs to go to the mainland and find another instead of spending 275 or whatever hours doing community service. I can't think of another reason to pick jail time, or leave.

Someone at the gym was talking about the show and said they saw the actress that plays Ana on tv this morning and she said that her character did die.
That doesn't mean she can't be brought back and I still don't think Libby dies.
pepsi
7:59:44 PM
5/04/06

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