crankshaft position sensor

“so who knows somethign about it???
I called a company and they charge me $120 for installation only (rough estimate) . not counting the part, which should be around $90.”

“Sounds like you have a Gm or something similar with a Direct Ignition system. They are ususally very easy to install... perhaps a bolt or two to remove it. The hard part is knowing WHERE on your car it's located.”

“have a mitsubishi eclipse spider 2001, 6 cylinder.

i wonder where I can find this info...
anyone knows??”

“This thread has all kinds of potential, but I'll be nice.


Go to Pep Boys and get yourself a shop manual - or pay the man.”

“Be sure if you do take it in to get the turn signal fluid filled and check the ashtray gasket.”

“nigal...nigal...nigal...you're bad. I used to repair cars in Germany...a very long time ago. ;)

anyway...times changed, cars changed.

and i know this thread has much potential and I appriciate you being nice violin. :)

i guess I got no choice then to pay the man. I thought I can get my tires, and now I have to pay for this. I mean, I am not rockafeller, dangid!”

“I have no idea what the crankshaft position sensor is, but $210 for parts and labor for anything nowadays doesn't sound too expensive....”

“You know more about cars than I do then. I know where the gas goes and where the windshield wiper fluid goes.”

“i doubt that i know more. it was more of a hobby. back then they didn't hire women to repair cars. lol

i guess $210 is fine then. oh boy. thought it it's easy to reach i can install it myself.”

“do a web search. i am sure if it is only $210 it will take the shop about 2 minutes to do it.”

“trouble is with newer cars all the stupid electronics and sensors for everything. and you usually have to take one thing off to get to the part you actually have to work on.

210 isn't that bad.”

“yeah, that's not too bad. it's a pretty good mechanic, $60/hr labor. I guess i can't complain. i did search and boy...the stuff I did find sounded like a #&%!$ a$$ job. don't think I want to deal with that.

just wait when they call me tomorrow, they'll changed their mind and give me an exact estimate of $400, then I would cry.”

“How difficult is it to figure out whether or not you're cranking your shaft right?

If it doesn't hurt than it's right. Why would you need a sensor????







Someone had to do it, slackers.”

“It's ususally located somewhere between the Tranny and the engine block on the engine block itself. The Eclipse is a popular sports car... I'm 100% positive it will have it's own set of forums... find their forums and ask there.”

“i am searching, i am searching, but can't find it. found a picture of the thing. hmm...don't help me much”

“DDX has an obsession with Trannies!”

“http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1563920972/ref=pd_sr_ec_ir_b/103-9826345-9357408?v=glance&s=books&st=*

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0801989574/qid=1098743040/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/103-9826345-9357408?v=glance&s=books

Gem - Go to an Auto Zone store or any big auto parts place and see if they have either of the repair manuals above. Usually these types of books will tell you how to do minor repairs.

One of the first things I do after buying a car is to pick up the book for it like these.”

“okay, i found a forum...i am going to ask now. stovestomper, autozone gave me the printout on what's wrong with the car, but they didn't know where to find it in the engine either.

I may check out the book tomorrow.”

“NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 00V299001
Component: ENGINE:PULLEY:CRANKSHAFT
Manufacturer: MITSUBISHI AMERICA
Potential Number of Units Affected: 6037

Year: 2001
Make: MITSUBISHI
Model: ECLIPSE
Manufactured From: MAY 2000 To: JUL 2000
Year of Recall: '00
Type of Report: Vehicle
Summary:

Vehicle Description: Passenger vehicles. The harness
for the crankshaft position sensor could come in contact with
a new protective shield causing a grounded circuit.

Prolonged wiring harness contact with the heat shield
will cause the wiring insulation to wear and eventually to ground
out. This could cause the engine to die-out, increasing the risk of a
crash.

Dealers will re-route the crankshaft position sensor
harness. Owner notification is expected to begin during November
2000. Owners who take their vehicles to an authorized dealer on an
agreed upon service date and do not receive the free remedy within a
reasonable time should contact Mitsubishi America at 1-800-222-0037.
Also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's Auto
Safety Hotline at 1-888-DASH-2-DOT (1-888-327-4236).”

“so maybe its a freebie?”

“yeah i found that, but don't think that's the exact problem. I could give them a call.

well, I will give them a call. but if it would be the same problem that would mean my car would just stop while I am driving. thank god that has never happend. that's scary.
last edited: 10/25/04 6:12:44 PM”

“Is getting your crankshaft position "re-routed" the same as a happy ending?”

“she said hers is a 2001. they were starting to fix that proble above in 2000. i would hope they weren't still making them with the problem in 2001.”

“i missread it too though. found the same info on a site with all the 2001 recalls.

let me be the one to tell you:

NEVER EVER BUY A FREAKING MITSUBISHI!! DON'T DO IT!! IT'S THE DEVIL!!”

“they have the same freaking recall for the 2001. recall no is different, but it's the exact same recall. stupid idots”

“"crankshaft position sensor"

is that the same thing as the g-spot?”

“the car is Kaaput!”

“deore is right. It's mounted in the bell housing right at the fly wheel. It uses a magnet or optical trigger to read marks on the flywheel or a dial mounted on the fly wheel. They are usualy in really akward places to get to. Probably why they quoted you such high labor. From the sounds of the recal, check around the exhaust manifolds, as the heat shield is causing the issue. Should be able to follow a wire loom right to it. Is this car RWD or FWD? FWD would be a major PITA.

Skip the haynes or chilton manual and just shell out the bucks for a factory service manual. Close to $70 from the dealer or look on e-bay or amazon. Mine has been invaluable.”

“Dagnabbit...I should've scrolled through the thread to see if anyone else had done a net search. Turns out SOMEONE already found what I just did.”

“I had that problem on my Grand Prix. I kept stalling on me a the oddest times. I took it back multiple times because they kept thinking there was something wrong with my electrical and/or fuel system. Finally it quit while the Service Manager was driving it. Anyway, mine was covered by the extended warranty minus my deductable amount.

How did they diagnose the problem?”

“Phil, autozone hooked it up to the computer.

At first I thought it was the battery, because the first time it happend my radio time was way off... then I called my neigbor with her jumper cables...and the car started like nothing ever was wrong. Very strange.

All the other times after that it started slow, sunday i went to the park and nothing... just like someone stole my damn engine. Not even the clicking sound. lol
called husband and while I was on the phone I tried again...just because the hell of it. Pffff.... started like always. not a problem.

Well, by then I already had a feeling that it wasn't the battery. I was leaning more toward the starter, altinator. (sp??) Shows you how much i know. :(

pretty good that autozone checks for free. this way the mechanics can't screw you. (yeah, yeah, yeah!!)”

“"Well, by then I already had a feeling that it wasn't the battery. I was leaning more toward the starter, altinator. (sp??) Shows you how much i know. :("

The fact you know that you have an alternator, and that it is electrical system related, is more then most people.

CPS's do some crazy stuff when they go out. Engine can't tell when to fire the spark plugs or the injectors.

Altho the fact your clock had reset and the starter wouldn't crank or engage doesn't sound like a CPS. A bad CPS usually makes the car run real rough or not crank over. Your car losing power while while sitting off does not involve the CPS at all. That indicates that the main 12V line from the battery is being interupted somehow. Probably not a short since the battery is still fine. Might check out or replace your positive battery cable.”

“dm - The diagnostics on my 1999 Grand Prix did not tell the mechanics exactly what was wrong. It was really a tricky diagnosis. The replaced my battery also as their first attempt to fix the problem. Next they replaced the fuel filter.”

““Be sure if you do take it in to get the turn signal fluid filled and check the ashtray gasket.”
Nigal

LMFAO!”

“deathmarch...so if the autozone computer showed me that the sensor is damaged...it could be only a damaged cable?

i can tell you that the car does not run rough at all. runs like always.

i am going to check the 12v line from the battery this afternoon. thtat would be a cheap alternative. yeah...”

“Gemini,

I just had the camshaft position sensor replaced on my Jeep Liberty. It cost me about $200 so that price they quoted you sounds right.

I hated it too, but it fixed the problem.
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“http://www.aviation-history.com/mitsubishi/zero.html


Here's a nice Mitsubishi
last edited: 10/26/04 8:10:54 AM”

“Did you check the air in the tires?”

“why air in the tires? I know...they are a little low. why are you asking?? are you my hubby in a treebeard halloween costum?”

“Why air in the tires?

Just because tire operate best with air in them...>8^]”

“Aww, you saw through my little ruse. Yes, I am your hubby. Now, would you please get me some dinner. I'm hungry!”

“yes, tires with no air in them are a major cause of carjack related incidents.”

“If the cable to the crankshaft position sensor is damaged it will show up on the computer as a fault with the crankshaft position sensor. If you know what the CPS looks like... you shoul dbe able to spot it on the car and remove it yourself. Often if you know what's wrong with it... and you go ahead and buy the part... you can find a local mechanic who would probably change it out for $50 for the few minutes of trouble. Just a thought.”

“What's goes, "Blam! Blam!

Bump, bump, bump, bump...










A drive-by in Gemini's car!”

“Im a service manager at a chevy dealer. The
price sounds right, so my advise is to get it done right. You would not believe how many cars we get after someone bought an aftermarket part and had someone that they know put it in, only to find that it was misdiagnosed or damaged by improper installation. You get what you pay for.”

“cars suck”

““cars suck”
Roam Around
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10/26/04
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I second that.”

“uhhh....bad treebeard, hmm hubby... lol


i tried to find that dang part yesterday, but didn't climb under the car yet nor did i remove the battery. I may just pay the $120 and get it done right.

hey roam!! still alive?”

“Good luck, Gem. let me know when dinner's ready...”

“Tires however, operate pretty well without cars. On my way to work, Northbound on 270 doing about 70, a tire in front of me decided to merge left while the car and it's remaing tires decided to pull off to the right shoulder.

The tire passed through my lane bouncing along and I slowed down because it had the right of way. It bounced into the next lane, still merging slowly and I passed it on the right. Watching it in that early morning haze, bouncing as it merged gently like a good motorist. it was almost surreal.

It hit the jersey wall, bounced over and into Southbound Traffic; four full lanes of inbound DC commuters.

It no longer had the right of way and the only way for it to not hit a vehicle was if it had dissapeared.

It hit and traffic stopped. Another delay in the City. I, however, made it to work in no time.”