Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

“there is a subconscious. there is no subconscience. the word unconscious is not relevant to suppressed memories, etc. it is a word we would use for someone who is asleep, passed out, or knocked out.”

“Crash, I did correct my spelling with my last post. I know unconscious is when you are out. That's what I said. I just added in that with both the subconscious thoughts and things heard when unconscious, you can react to both and not know why.

Wait a second! Does anyone else see the ad to the right of the screen? What a strange coincidence!”

“Hmmm, I just went back to look to see if the ad is still there, but it's gone. I saw an ad having to do with your subconscious mind.”

“I didn't read all the posts. But, just wanted to comment that I saw Eternal Sunshine a few weeks back and absolutely loved it!! Prolly one of the best movies I've seen in a while.”

“Crash, and yes, I know unconsious thoughts are not repressed since they were heard when you are not conscious which includes when you are under anesthesia.”

“Lips is using "unconcious mind" appropriately. There is a long tradition made popular by Freud of talking about unconcious awareness. It's still popular today, even as Freud as gone out of fashion.

There is a lot going on in our mind that never becomes concious. Some of it is easy to become aware of - I can pull it up into conciousness easily. That stuff that is not concious, but is easily accessible is what Freud called the sub-concious. The stuff that is in their, but is harder or impossible to get at is "unconcious." Freud and many others believe that we block some trauma and some unacceptable feelings and ideas from out mind - that stuff is "unconcious."”

“i didnt catch that about hearing things while unconscious popping up later in the subconsciousness. that i would agree with”

“Memories are burned into your brain through certain biochemicals and pathways.

They are currently developing a therapeutic that can block the most vivid memories, the ones that severly traumatize people.

We're talking about people with post-traumatic stress. Could this lead to abuse in the future with a better drug?

Perhaps. But everyone worries about "evil" science when a new technology/drug is discovered, no?”

“Bear - when I came to, they tried to sign me up for a study of a drug to prevent post-traumatic stress disorder. It was an anti-depressant (Buspirone, if I remember correctly), I decided not to take it because I remembered a malpractice suit I'd been marginally involved in that involved Buspirone and I was well researched on the problems with it.

Since I didn't end up with PTSD anyway, its just as well I didn't take the drug (there is such a thing as delayed onset PTSD, but I sincerely doubt I'll have it).”

“Really? How long ago? I think I need to do some research, see if there's more than one drug under development.”

“Ped, I believe Buspirone is an anti-anxiety drug.

I know there are class action suits for many antidepressants. All of these anti-anxiety and anti-depressant drugs have a multitude of side effects. It seems like the antidepressants effect the kidneys and liver in some people and that's who make up the law suits. Plus, let's not forget the people that committ suicide, which can be a side effect in antidepressants. They must have to pay off big time for that.

The pharmaceutical companies are holding our health hostage by their high prices for pills. I always hear that they make a lot of money, but they also have a lot of lawsuits.”

“The pharmaceutical companies are holding our health hostage by their high prices for pills. I always hear that they make a lot of money, but they also have a lot of lawsuits.”
lipstick hiker
3:29:22 PM
10/30/04

In effect, you just contradicted yourself. Liability coverage is huge for Pharma. Plus, 9 out of 10 drugs developed never make it to market, and die at various stages. Plus, development-market takes @15yrs.

I could go on but I must go.”

“Yer right Lips, Buspirone is an anxiolitic and most often used for anxiety and seldom for depression, although it has been used successfully for depression. This is actually why I hedged about remembering what it was, in my memory they said it was an antidepressant and they said it was Buspar (the brand name for Buspirone) - but Buspar isn't known for its antidepressant effects.”

“Bearmagnet, I didn't contradict myself. What I did was throw out two different views for someone to pick up on and maybe give some input to what may be right. I can imagine it takes 15 years to put a drug out between research and developement, and years of testing before it's FDA approved.

Ped, and "they" say you don't learn anything from watching tv, lol. Things having to do with psychology tend to stick in my mind.”

“just saw this movie a few days ago.
very interesting-- did someone say it was done by the same person as "being John Malkovich"? That's the vibe I got anyways....”

“yes, same director.

awesome movie i must say (ESOTSM)... i didn't see malkovich.”

“charlie kaufman keeps getting better with each script he writes

the directors, however, are different. spike jonze directed malkovich, some frenchy guy did spotshine”