Fall is for RAIN COATS

“I need suggestions on a new rain coat. I would like it to be lightweight and packable. also i would like to be able to wear layers under it. I've been looking at the precip but am not sure if i like it. any help is much appreciated.”

“I have a Precip and REI Elements jacket (I forget the name at the moment). Both are waterproof and somewhat breathable. The Marmot is several ounces lighter, but the REI seems to do a better job blocking the wind. What about the Precip do you think you won't like?

I can't remember which thread or who said it, but I read that the benefit of a waterproof jacket is its ability to keep your body from direct contact with cold rain. Even if it doesn't breathe 100%, a jacket can reduce the risk of hypothermia. After the cold rains we've had the last few days here, I find that to be very true. My clothes might get damp from sweat, but its better than soaked from the rain.”

“I like my Red Ledge jacket a lot! It seems to breathe fairly well - enough that I don't get soaked in sweat - and it has generous pit zips. and a nice hood with good drawstring control over the face opening. Lightweight and very packable too.”

“I'll second the Red Ledge jacket.”

“i have an ultra light red ledge jacket and really like it. I know it's silnylon, but I really don't sweat as much in it then with my regular rain jacket.”

“thanks for the quick replys. I am not too sure why i am apprehensive about the precip. it just doesnt seem to be made that well. I dont have any prior expereince with marmot so that could be a problem as well. I know their stuff is rather expensive but you dont always get what you pay for. I havent looked at any redledge jackets yet. where did you folks purchase yours?”

“guess i should have added i would like it to be somewhat breathable”

“I have a lot of Marmot stuff (clothes, a tent, a pack), and its all been great.

The Precip certainly isn't a heavy-duty jacket. I wouldn't use it for off-trail stuff at all, but it is relatively breathable and certainly lightweight.

Several places are closing out the previous generation of Precips for around $70. Last I knew, REI's outlet page had them.”