Kerry continues to divide

“Someone wake Kerry up from his dream.

He lost, get over it. Don't drag the country through this again.”

“are you surprised. his running mate can lead the charge.

edwards is a loser.”

“The votes need to be counted fellas.”

“You are living in a fantasy world. Wake up and concede.”

“I'm all 4 waiting til they're counted until it's obvious that it's impossible. I must say I'm surprised at the vote count. I heard this morning that it'll be the first time in 12 or 16 years that the man that won the popular vote also won the electoral college.”

“Dayhiker -

Bush is the only person this century to have lost the popular vote and won the EC. I think what you may have heard is that this is the first time since 1988 that someone got a majority of the popular vote.”

“No, I'm pretty sure that's what NPR said. I'm pretty sure I recall Clinton not getting popular vote, especially the first time around. I don't understand your last sentence?”

“The votes need to be counted is the proper sentiment BB, but the reality is that the margin just isn't there, so the question is how long is Kerry willing to let this go on. I suspect he's reasonable enough to give it up at some point today, his people can run numbers as well as anyone, they know what the score is.”

“Dayhiker, Clinton easily won the popular vote in both of his elections, however he carried a plurality not a majority.
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“Bison is correct. Only two Presidents who were elected failed to capture the popular vote.

Kerry is not one of them.”

“I'm cryin' in my beer.

Four more years of these guys.......we shall see.

I wonder if the draft will be by lottery or by economic class.”

“MarkO, stop your draft fantasies and settle into the bliss of reality, there isn't going to be a draft.”

“Bison, how are they going to keep up the military adventurism?

They are running low on volunteers.

"....bliss of reality..."
WTF man?

I certainly hope I am wrong.”

“MarkO - I just felt like being poetic at the moment.”

“MarkO continues the policies of lies and deception the left is famous for.”

“I'm assuming you have a college degree, Bison.

They would make you an officer.
Hmmmmm, platoon leaders have a short life expectancy in the infantry.”

“More of the same.”

““MarkO continues the policies of lies and deception the left is famous for.”
bbw
7:15:05 AM
11/03/04

Policy ??

Please point out the lies and deceptions, fat head.”

“I guess I misheard then. My bad.

MarkO to hear you talk they're going to start draft today and base it on income stats from income taxes. Wait, that would exclude the folks that don't pay taxes. They'll do it on welfare rolls, yeah, that's what they'll do.

I hope I'm never that jaded.”

“I love this...

"Bush is the only person this century to have lost the popular vote..." - Bison

And just how many elections have we had this century???
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“We had one last night. Kerry needs to concede.”

“You forgot, "and won the EC," Limpy.”

“Kerry who looses the popular vote and the electoral vote refuses to concede.

Kerry campaigns, calling Bush a liar. Bush never calls Kerry a liar.

Kerry campaigns calling Bush AWOL from military service. Bush praises Kerry\'s military service.

America responds by sending more Republicans to the Senate, the House, and piles on the popular and electoral vote to Bush. Ain\'t Democracy Great?”

“dayhiker, in the '60s those boys who were not college were likely to be drafted.
There was a deferment for those in college.
Hey, Dickie Cheney had five deferments.
Kids with no deferments, physical or college were A-one and liable to be taken.
Do the math, smart guy.

I didn't say that the draft would start today.

If there are not enough volunteers, then what?
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“Poor MarkO. It must suck to be facing 4 more years of Bush destroying America. Fortunately for everyone, your uninformed wingnut perspective is completely out of touch with reality! LOL! The People spoke and they voted down your socialist ideology!”

“The election is over TomT. Quit your campaign of lies and get over it.”

“He's still babbling about the draft. Good God, Mark - how hard did you hit the bottle last night?”

“Good morning, Mutt you fascist imperialist doggy!
Oops, I forgot the "neo" classification.


bbw, how is an observation a lie?

I do hope things go well.”

“Bison, we are what, like 5% into this century! That was my point. ;-)”

“Again, I hope there is no draft.

But I wonder how this regime can keep up it's military adventurism when it is running short of volunteers.”

“I haven't seen Bacpac hit the board this hard since the last time his fat, drunk ass got on here and railed about somebody's tits! Feelin' good, ya old perv?”

“This is not a regime. It is the government of the United States.

Don't allow your petty differences to soil the sanctity of a democratically elected Nation.”

“Sorry Limpy you are correct, I should have stated that I meant the last 100 years, not "this century."”

“Hey MarkO, while I celebrate the vindication of Bush's foreign policy, I hate the fact that Bush and the Christofascists are likely to get to choose a supreme court justice, and wreak havoc with their un-American social agenda. Christian Republicans are not true conservatives. They want Big Government Establishment of religion through a number of issues: prayer in school, anti-gay amendment, abortion, etc etc. They are the scum of the Earth in that respect!

So, it's a both a victory and a defeat for me. Foreign policy happened to trump domestic concerns this election, though.”

“Did Bacpac just say he soiled his pants?”

“No, the turd is John Kerry. He needs to concede.”

“I disagree, it's a regime. Anytime you dupe the majority of voters into voting for you by misleading and lying to them, then refusing to count all the votes cast, it's an undemocratic takeover, and it started in 2000.

I'm upset over the outcome of this election, yes, but feel sorry for all the folks that fell for this poor excuse of leadership, and just shake my head seeing people gloat over screwing themselves.”

“Spoken like a good American, Buttcrack. Get the f_ck outta our way. We're republicans...”

“Shut the #&%!$ up buddha. No one is buying your sour grapes.”

“Well, at least you're beginning to concede the fact that Kerry lost, buddha bear. Welcome back to reality.”

“Well, I can agree on your assessment.....

"Christian Republicans are not true conservatives. They want Big Government Establishment of religion through a number of issues: prayer in school, anti-gay amendment, abortion, etc etc. They are the scum of the Earth in that respect!"

I do hope that the foreign policy does not turn into disaster.
But I am afraid that it is more of the same adventurism and intervention that may come back to bite us as so much already has.

Iraq being the prime and present example.
The U.S. made Iraq.......now Americans are dying for those past mistakes.”

“MarkO, yeah I heard of Vietnam. I was being SARCASTIC.”

“"I'm upset over the outcome of this election, yes, but feel sorry for all the folks that fell for this poor excuse of leadership, and just shake my head seeing people gloat over screwing themselves.”
Buddha Bear
7:38:01 AM
11/03/04

I'm hip.
Gloating over screwing themselves is cultish.”

“OK dayhiker.

I'm being sober and realistic about the issue of military draft.

My sons are 21, 18 and 14.
I would rather they do not become killers.

You guys are so happy.......a little too happy.”

“Killing is what we have to do, Mark. We have to kill the Islamofascists. As many as possible. There is no shame in killing those relative few who would destroy the lives of millions.”

“Traditionally, only about 40% of the moral Christians voted in an election because they felt alienated by the Republicans and despised by the Democrats. Bush won because many new registrations broke for Bush, and the vast majority of Christian conservatives voted for Bush. Bush galvanized the Christian conservatives and brought them back into the electoral process. Rallying the populace behind the President is good.”

“You guys? I challenge you to find any cheering type of comment I have made. I merely called you on the drama you broke out in one post. I also concede that if my son was your kids age that I might feel differently than I do with a 5 year old. I don't feel that this is 4 more years of Nirvana. I just feel that it's a good bit better than 4 years of Kerry. Had there been a decent moderate candidate then I would've listened. We had an extreme left candidate and an extreme right candidate. I'm right of center so I had an obvious choice.”

“That's right, dayhiker. All the Democrats had to do was nominate a moderate who had a decisive view on foreign policy. Instead, they picked a far left New England pu$$y-footed liberal. They shot themselves in the foot. And it left someone like me - who would've preferred voting Democrat - holding my nose when voting for Bush.”

“Mutt, you are a chicken hawk.

Military action in Iraq has killed and mangled tens of thousands of civilians.

Is there no shame in that?

"Killing is what we have to do, Mark."

Spoken like a true chicken hawk.
There is no "we" though.
You will encourage others to do it......you have better things to do.”

“Just because you don't have the stomach for war doesn't mean it's unnecessary, Mark.

Oh, and it's the insurgents that are causing the civilian casualties by using them as shields. Same as in the Israeli/Pali conflict.”