My god's Bigger Than your God

“that seems to imply that if you dont have god in your life, youre not happy, which is false.

the implication was that God and marriage are meant to go together, not that you can't be happy without God (although ...)”

“"Organized religion is for people with weak minds."

Gov. Jesse Ventura”

“gotcha, hpd”

“, but in essence it means trying to be loving towards others as a couple.

That makes a certain amount of sense. No need to attribute it to a skygod to see the truth of it.”

“For the record, my "I know" post was meant for Dayhiker_s post, not HPD_s�
hyway
7:38:49 AM
11/20/09


I realized you were acknowledging that your best work was in the past tense.”

“;) Of course that's what I meant. Otherwise, you'd have to kill me.”

“i know this is off-topic, and im sorry, cuz heaven knows we dont let thread degeneration happen around here

whats that country song that is always played around christmas, about the guy who is waiting for jesus to come and visit him, and instead all these different people in need come by, and he helps them in whatever way he can, and at the end of the day, jesus didnt come, so he prays, and asks jesus why he didnt come, but jesus says i was the little girl, old woman, crippled man, etc....?”

“"The Christmas Guest"”

“i don't know about the country song, but it's a concept taken from the bible

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2025:31-46&version=NIV”

“whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.

imho, this is the most meaningful, relevant, and true statement in the bible. as far as im concerned, everything else is extraneous. i know some wont agree, but tuff titty”

“well crash, you are close, according to God

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+12%3A29-31&version=NIV

It's concept is essentially the 2nd most meaningful, relevant, ...”

“i dont believe that the bible is the inerrant word of god, so im not bothered by the contradiction.”

“what contradiction? the one between you and God?”

“the one between me and mark 12:29-31”

“from my pov, there is no contradiction between me and god, on this topic”

“(substituting "s for apostrophes)

Where I agree with HPD:

I think my marriage is profoundly strengthened by a deepening commitment to working together to serve others. A family is strengthened in that manner as well. This works on at least two levels:

First, I think what Hillel said for individuals is true for couples and family - so I will put it in the plural:

�If we are not for ourselves, then who will be for us? And if we are only for ourselves then what are we (as a couple)? And if not now, when?�

Working for a higher goal than simply making the relationship work helps a couple work better. Yes, we are improved by loving one person�s welfare an end and not a means. But it is even better when that concern expands and the concern is shared as a couple.

Secondly, as Plato says "I love my friend because I love the good and I see the good in my friend." By seeing my wife�s commitment to doing good, I love her more.

I have a suspicion that this works best if the shared goal is about more than politics. It is all too easy for politics to become crudely about power, antagonism and resentment. Politics lends itself too easily to disparagement of the opposition and feelings of superiority. At times, feeling I was on the right side of things politically was a cheap susbtitute for taking real steps to do real good for others.

As I strive to be a better person (a daunting task when I look at myself honestly) and keep my marriage strong - these are the kinds of things I consider.

While my knee jerk reaction to people saying "We are all miserable sinners and without Jesus we are nothing," is highly negative - and I think feeling that one has the right true religion can be the same poor substitute for doing real good just as it can be in politics - I realize there is a truth there that goes beyond any one religion.

Maybe I am guilty of being biased by my theophobia. IMO, too many people have suffered and died in conflicts over who had the best imaginary friend. But when HPD writes "IMO, marriage is a bond where 2 people come together and use the power of that combined love (like wonder twins) to try to honor God. What "honoring God" looks like may be different for different people, but in essence it means trying to be loving towards others as a couple I say "amen!" - that has been my experience.”

“Wow, ped. Thanks.”

“About time this thread had a Venn Diagram.
”

“I still think superman is better.”

“While my knee jerk reaction to people saying "We are all miserable sinners and without Jesus we are nothing," is highly negative - and I think feeling that one has the right true religion can be the same poor substitute for doing real good just as it can be in politics - I realize there is a truth there that goes beyond any one religion.

Maybe I am guilty of being biased by my theophobia. IMO, too many people have suffered and died in conflicts over who had the best imaginary friend. But when HPD writes "IMO, marriage is a bond where 2 people come together and use the power of that combined love (like wonder twins) to try to honor God. What "honoring God" looks like may be different for different people, but in essence it means trying to be loving towards others as a couple I say "amen!" - that has been my experience.�
pedxing
10:38:42 AM
11/20/09

Extremely well said. Our first corporate objective is to Honor God in All We Do.

This company is very clear that that means a lot of things to a lot of people.

http://corporate.servicemaster.com/overview_objectives.asp”

“The word "service" should be incorporated into many more businesses. Some spiritual teachers say that "service is the way".
If more individuals and companies saw themselves as servants, I think we would see quite a lot of positive change.”

“chile it has been said that the cherokee nation believed in 1 supreme GOD and when white men came it was easy to convert the Cherokees to Jesus Christ son of GOD! Are you with your people?”

“Amen Dan.”

“Chili - I know nothing about that business, but would be curious to see how their ethical stance is through the rank and file of the business.”

“damba- ped says he agrees w me and chili gives him credit - WTF!!!!!!!! Bullshi)-/:($&)(!!!!!”

“Ped,

Like any organization, we are not without problems. However, that being said, I can say that we readily adopt these objectives into our business units, and further down into our operational units.

We readily refer to our first objective in all aspects of our business. Those who do not adopt the philosophy of doing the right thing, just do not last too long.

But, that being said, it is the bad behaviour that gains the most attention. I suppose that holds true with most groups.

In our original business unit, ServiceMaster Clean, it is much more ingrained into the daily operations. In our acquisitions, it has readily been adopted. By no means is it a religious statement, but we drive ethics at every level.

In our opinion, it is the market differeniator that defines who we are.”

“�damba- ped says he agrees w me and chili gives him credit - WTF!!!!!!!! Bullshi)-/:($&)(!!!!!�
HighPlainsDrifter
6:59:59 PM
11/20/09

That is either the best humor you have exhibited, or the worst exhibition of Christian behaviour I can imagine.

I prefer to think it is the former as opposed to the latter.”

“FU! Those are my ideas from the bible. NOT pedxing's!”

“
_cause he eats Ken-L Ration

”

“Man, I am stunned nobody posted this song about the I-75 Jesus.

Big Butter Jesus”

“Do you kiss god with that mouth?”

“and thank you Euro.”

“Canned dog food without the can.”

“nemster, don't you mean fingers?”

“
Trailblazer! Ho! Haw!
Trailblazer Here!
Fine dog food from Martha White
Trailblazer Here!

� � Tennessee Ernie Ford

”

““the one between me and mark”
crash bang
11:21:34 AM
11/20/09

Did not!

I barely know this guy.”

“Gawd must be like empty beer cans and bottles. A quart bottle (empty)is emptier than an empty 12 oz. can, so, a big God is emptier.”

“Hmmmm, I suppose a Double Deuce(22oz) is somewhere in between and a Forty is supreme.

Dang, that`s deep....................degrees of nothingness.”

“It spilled all over the higher threads.”

“I always wondered why people with "faith" seem to scare the crap out of the alleged NON Believers.

THe best is to get in a debate and have them accuse "ALL PEOPLE" of Profiling....(I love hypocritical irony).”

“I have no problem with peoples religious beliefs as long as they are not trying to push those beliefs on me.”

“Yeah, we so scared!

Perhaps you have the letters scrambled.....

sarcasm
scares`m”

“Lumber I agree but I look at all sides of the spectrum. I get just as pyssed at the Holy Roller as I do the EnvriomanGod types.”

“EnvriomanGod types ??

Is that some kind of cult?

Should I be reading the tabloid press?”

“People with faith scare non-believers. Sarah Palin scares liberals. Hunters scare people who do not own guns. This scare thing is an easy answer to everything. Keep it up. It keeps you from having to really understand the other side of an argument.”

“Out of Context quote:

...He kept asking people during the breaks `What religion are you?` Then he would berate anyone who was Catholic, or NON BAPTIST!!!!!!.

He came around to me and asked me I replied `Reformed Druid`. He got a look like I just spoke to him in Latin...(LOL)�
theXL400
12:14:25 PM”

“Dominus vobiscum.....

Et cum spiritu tuo”

“People with faith scare non-believers

With good reason. Its not about lack of understanding. Its about understanding all too well.”