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hey stikmon - remember when I went on a rampage accusing you of being one of the a--holes who litter MO streams with beer cans and trash? LOL - good times!
Mutt
8:32:20 AM
6/09/06

I rest my case.
Geobeet
9:04:05 AM
6/09/06

Sarcasm isn't something you can turn off. You either are or aren't. You can bottle it up, hold it in until it explodes and is released in a perhaps not to nice of way.

Serenity Now, serenity now...
bearmagnet
9:20:57 AM
6/09/06

yeah well...
When you stop liking yourself for the way you act and the things you say to people you don't even know, thats the time to take a step back, because what is it your saying to people you really do like, or even more importantly...what is it that you say to yourself that makes you feel that it is ok to be mean, nasty and sarcastic.

I think its real shame and I apologize to myself for dunking my head into a place that made me sick.
Stikmon
9:23:52 AM
6/09/06

BM...
You're wrong. You can turn it off. But, you have to realize what it is that makes you be like that. I saw, truthfully, what made me be like that. FEAR. I now choose not to be fearful and now I no longer need to be sarcastic. Sarcasm is a way to make yourself more important by putting others down through words...EGO driven needs to be superior. Humility is the key, self love, self parenting, forgiveness of self allows one to forgive others and acceptance of the IS.

Been a long hard road. Not many people do it. HARD road. I've lost some important people and gained others who are even more important. Conscious choice making is a hard thing to do. Change is not always appreciated by everyone, but change is necessary for growth.

Sarcasm creates hurt feelings, I don't want to hurt anyones feelings anymore, because I don't want my feelings hurt, and I choose not to allow others sarcasm to do that.
Stikmon
10:08:46 AM
6/09/06

Marc, how's the dog faced boy doing? Have not heard much about him lately.
StoveStomper
10:11:02 AM
6/09/06

Maybe Sticks. I personally think you are who you are and you should embrace that.

As for sarcasm, I use it almost exclusively for people I like. My true friends know it's harmless banter and generally give it back.

I completely ignore people I truly dislike.
bearmagnet
10:17:51 AM
6/09/06

The DFB is good...
thanks for asking...he ate a bag of brownie mix the other day and later in the weeee hours of the morning created his own version of brownie goo in the house. A lovely thing to wake up to.

BM...we are who we have allowed ourselves to be programmed to become. Change the programming, change the person. Our past is what we have learned from, usually from personal perception of ourselves within that time frame. But, since perception is based upon personal feelings (ego) usually this perception is false as perceptions can change from person to person and even minute to minute. Hence perception is illusion, and illusion is only as real as we allow it to become. In my case it became VERY real, but upon looking at my past history, I based my reality on illusion and when I really looked at it, it evaporated and all that was left was a spoiled little boy who took everything for granted and appreciated nothing because I never got what I really wanted and felt that I wasn't good enough to have what I really wanted...a playmate. So, I held it against everyone that I wasn't good enough and to counter that, I became sarcastic and instead of making people feel good, I made them feel bad by punishing them with "humor" that made me feel better by putting them down...yeah, thats a great way to attract people to you.

NOT...anywho...enough about me, oh wait, this is my thread, and it is about me, so, I guess I can write what I want. I"ve done alot of work since the inception of this thread...some of what I wrote here is VERY inciteful, and all true. One just needs to sift through the stuff and align it with what is in their own heart.

But, I have Hope now, Santa is gone and Hope is here. I hope Hope is up to the challenge.
Stikmon
11:17:32 AM
6/09/06

As for ignoring people you dislike...
Why do you even attract people you dislike? Attract people you like, and you will have no need to ignore anyone.
Stikmon
11:20:17 AM
6/09/06

Santa is gone? Did you mean "Satan"?
Sarge
11:23:01 AM
6/09/06

If anyone is interested in...
really communicating with me on a VERY serious note, please do so...I have no answers other than what works for me, but, I'm always eager to find new questions. I'm currently reading Steven Scott's new book The Richest Man Who Ever Lived: King Solomon's Secrets to Success, Wealth, and Happiness.

Very inciteful book on successful relationship building.
Stikmon
11:29:12 AM
6/09/06

If anyone is interested in...
“really communicating with me on a VERY serious note, please do so...I have no answers other than what works for me
.....
Very inciteful book on successful relationship building.


LOL!

Now that's ironic! LOL!
Sarge
11:33:27 AM
6/09/06

Sarge...
I'm a pretty good typist...Santa is what I wrote, Santa is what I meant. If you choose to "play" with my words, I'm glad to provide you amusement. I'm sorry I can't play along though. See, your the type of person I no longer want to be. If you truely wanted a dialog, then you'd be less condesending and more open to discussion, but you choose the stab and parry mode of communication...look further into your self and "see" all that you've attracted to you. and Don't be too hard on yourself. They were your choices, and undoubtedly, you need to make those choices in order to learn what you are learning. Have fun.
Stikmon
11:34:53 AM
6/09/06

see...
sarcasm...you must really be surrounded with many people that love you. I'm glad for you.
Stikmon
11:36:06 AM
6/09/06

If you choose to "play" with my words, I'm glad to provide you amusement.

I believe I phrased it in the form of a question.

Wait! Let me check ....

(time passes)

Yup! "Form of a question."

Wow! Talk about condescending. I asked a question. You turned it around as if it were a statement of fact - then criticized that. That's condescending.

PS - I think you need to get your money back. This is constructive criticism. Your therapist is leading you down a dark path. You think you sound like confusious, but really you sound like confusion.
Sarge
11:38:27 AM
6/09/06

Stikmon - Here's some tough love for you buddy - not that fluff love your therapist gives you.

You sound like you're lost. You're so lost, you think you're found, but you're not.

Everyone reading your words is feeling sorry for you, I guarantee it. They'll be critical of me because they think I'm being mean and don't understand that you need tough love, but trust me, they're thinking it.
Sarge
11:41:42 AM
6/09/06

Yep. Same old Stickmon.
DeadNBloated
11:41:47 AM
6/09/06

sarcasm...you must really be surrounded with many people that love you. - Stikmon

Think about that statement Stikmon. That's more irony. You're being critical of what you perceive as sarcasm, and you're doing it in a sarcastic way - as you try to show me the light, after you just said you don't believe in sarcasm.

You're lost dude. Seek elsewhere for answers.

Hint: Answers don't come from introspection, everything you already know is inside. They come from looking outward where you have never been.



last edited: 6/09/06 11:45:22 AM
Sarge
11:43:18 AM
6/09/06

Yep. Same old Sarge.
DeadNBloated
11:44:07 AM
6/09/06

Yep. Same old Nigal.
DeadNBloated
11:45:24 AM
6/09/06

All that is on the house, by the way Stikmon. Pay it forward.
Sarge
11:47:08 AM
6/09/06

Why do you even attract people you dislike? Attract people you like, and you will have no need to ignore anyone.”
Stikmon
12:20:17 PM
6/09/06

That's just me, everyone wants to be my friend!

Sorry for the sarcasm. LOL!

You can't always choose who you associate with. Unless you choose to be a hermit.
bearmagnet
11:54:12 AM
6/09/06

Bruce Lee said it best: "Life is like a finger, pointing to the Moon. If you look at the finger... you will miss all the heavenly glory."
Sarge
11:55:32 AM
6/09/06

Yeah but if you're pointing a finger at me and you look at your finger you don't have to see me.

Thank you sensay.
DeadNBloated
11:59:01 AM
6/09/06

Waitamiute - Stikmon found salvation through modern (i.e. scientifically backed) counseling, instead of Christ? No wonder Sarge is agitated.
Mutt
12:00:00 PM
6/09/06

Seems to be working great too. [sarcasm]
DeadNBloated
12:01:14 PM
6/09/06

About as good as Christianity - LOL
Mutt
12:02:07 PM
6/09/06

What an appropriately named thread this has become. ;-)
last edited: 6/09/06 12:08:30 PM
StoveStomper
12:03:09 PM
6/09/06

LOL! *rolls eyes*

I'm not the one full of hate. What's your excuse Mutt?

Mutt, what did I say that makes you think I'm agitated?
Sarge
12:04:42 PM
6/09/06

Sarge, you're wheeling around Stikmon's death-bed like a vulture!
Mutt
12:05:58 PM
6/09/06

Never point unless you really don't like your finger.
bearmagnet
12:10:23 PM
6/09/06

I am wheeling around his death-bed like a doctor.
Sarge
12:19:38 PM
6/09/06

just wondering...
What did I say that enraged you so towards me Sarge? I have said what is in my heart and you've needed to deride me. What have I said that you don't like? Did I offend you, did I call you names, have I accused you of anything? Have I even directed anything towards you by using your name prior to this particular posting? If you've taken personal offense to something I wrote, then that should tell you something. What, I'm not certain of, but, since I never used your name, you must have felt something touch you. I'm sorry if I've offended you in anyway. Certainly not my intent. I don't even know you, but from your defensive posturing I'm getting that you feel a certain sense of self-righteousness. If I'm wrong, then again, I apologize for reaching.

I'm sorry that you find such offense in my writings. Don't read them. If you feel that I've wasted my time in doing what I'm doing, please don't. Its not your time and you shouldn't be concerned with what I'm doing. I do understand that I am only a passing interest for you. Someone to "pick on". Someone to "bully". I'm guessing that you did alot of that as a kid. Well...I was bullied and picked on as a kid, and to tell you the truth, your kind has made me fealess and strong. Your kind can't hurt me Sarge...actually you're helping find the things within myself that I don't like. So, instead of asking you to stop, I'm encouraging you to do more. The more you deride me, the stronger and healthier I become. So, thanks for being you. With people like you out there showing and demonstrating the tendencies that we don't like, the more hope we have to eradicate those things within ourselves that no longer serve us.

BM...I would beg to differ...we can choose who we want to associate with. We do it all the time. We just don't always listen with our hearts...because if we did, we'd not have people in our lives that hurt us. I choose to surround myself with friends and associates that enjoy my company and will look out for me, because in turn I will look out for them. Who in the world wants mean and negative people to be around...not me. I want people who want to have fun and already do have fun. The people I hang around now aren't sarcastic, aren't negative, aren't stressed, aren't worried. These people don't allow me to feel lonely because they truely care about me. This time, I chose who my friends are...me...I'm the chooser. I'm not waiting to be chosen. So, again, I beg to differ, but we can choose who we associate with, just like I chose which company to work for, which house I purchased, which bike I rode to work today, what I had for lunch, whether to continue to post on this board. Choice is ALL WE HAVE THAT IS OUR OWN...thats why its called "FREE WILL".
Stikmon
1:58:06 PM
6/09/06

What did I say that enraged you so towards me Sarge?

Without having read the rest of your post. Let me stop you there. Perhaps you should reconsider the conclusion you have reached here.

I'll read the rest now ...
Sarge
2:02:48 PM
6/09/06

like a doctor...
your a fixer. whenever there's something "apparently wrong" its the "fixer" that comes in to save the day. Thank you for your gift. It is appreciated.
Stikmon
2:11:20 PM
6/09/06

WOW! I don't believe you correctly identified any of my thoughts or feelings in that entire post. Incredible!

Perhaps you're projecting? I'd love to know how you came to those conclusions, even though it would be irrelevant, it might be interesting.

Some incorrect conclusions:

enraged
deride
don't like
offend
defensive posturing
self-rightousness
pick on
bully
try to hurt you


Wow dude! Speaking of defensive!! OMG! I was speaking the truth, and obviously you took offense. It is you who are on the defensive. I don't even know what you're referring to when you say I chose "defensive posturing". What? Where? I am simple telling you that you seem to be somebody who has chased a path of "enlightenment", but have ended up in the opposite place you chose to be. I didn't say anything which might be later used as a shield to protect my own interests.

Read your posts! They are full of hypocricy. You go off on people using what you think is sarcasm, and you do it with what? SARCASM!

The only thing you got right is this: Sarge...actually you're helping find the things within myself that I don't like.

That is exactly my point. That is what my intent was. I don't write in "code". I spelled it out for you. You have become a hypocrite. You have become what you are trying to avoid becoming.

I am telling you how to avoid that. Turn around now. Stop looking inward, instead look outward.

That is my advice to you. Take it or leave it, that's your choice. But to attack me like you have (the bullying comments aren't even close to reality dude) shows that you have no interest in improving yourself. Your REAL goal that you have chosen (like it or not) is to become desensitized to "self". That is a dangerous place to be. If you want enlightenment, you need to look outward. Somebody is getting rich off of you looking inward - something that is never going to solve your problems, it will sure pay their bills though.

For the record, if I didn't like you, I wouldn't offer this free advice. I do like you, even though I don't know you. I think you have VERY good intentions. I don't blame you for your misguided direction in the least bit. Somebody else in your life is to blame, but that's neither here nor there. Time to move on.
last edited: 6/09/06 2:19:21 PM
Sarge
2:14:01 PM
6/09/06

If you want enlightenment, you need to look outward.

Translation: JEBUS IS LAWRD!!!!
last edited: 6/09/06 2:28:13 PM
Mutt
2:24:06 PM
6/09/06

Sarge
3:34:05 PM
6/09/06

I think that to attempt to change the way you are or things about you that you feel are just not right is a hard thing to do. to do this while you are letting everyone else know what you are attempting to accomplish takes guts. I dont know you stikmon but I commend you for what you are trying to do .
fingerlakeshiker
4:52:00 PM
6/09/06

Nigal, you are a big mean butt face >:( ;)
last edited: 6/24/06 7:59:22 AM
Spirit Coyote
7:58:42 AM
6/24/06

As opposed to a "nice" butt face?
Nimblefoot
8:03:01 AM
6/24/06

Nimblefoot, you are just a butt!
Spirit Coyote
8:03:56 AM
6/24/06

Am not (we're going to have to start escalating this if we're going to compete with the high standards of the previous posts, do-do head).
Nimblefoot
8:09:13 AM
6/24/06

Spirit what exactly is that emoticon? Sad with a hint of teasing? Upside down teasing with chin dimples and goatee? lol!
Sassafras
8:10:47 AM
6/24/06

looks like a frown followed by a wink
Pathman
8:12:09 AM
6/24/06

could it be a wink and a nod?
last edited: 6/24/06 8:12:53 AM
Pathman
8:12:09 AM
6/24/06

Its a mock angry face, followed by a grinning wink....


any common butt head would know that....

you all are mega butt-heads!
Spirit Coyote
8:15:21 AM
6/24/06

Takes one to know one!
Sassafras
8:16:20 AM
6/24/06

“Nigal, you are a big mean butt face >:( ;)"

What the...? What'd I do this time?
Nigal
8:16:45 AM
6/24/06

If we're mega-buttheads, then you're a "smegma" butt head (extra points for cross reference to another thread).
Nimblefoot
8:19:06 AM
6/24/06

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