Life in Violin's New Jersey

“Let New Jersey do as they please, just be sure and keep all the New Jersey murderers in New Jersey. The State is run by the Mob anyway.”

“Worry about your own state. I'm glad mine has taken a step toward civilization.

Can you imagine the horror of being improperly convicted to death?”

“You guys are acting as if New Jersey peeps go to other States and insist the New Jersey way is the only correct way. /sarc off
LOL”

“"Can you imagine the horror of being improperly convicted to death?”
Reverend Truth V Wicked

That would indeed be horrible... but I'm still waiting for someone to tell me the name of somone improperly executed?

Our system has major flaws, I'm not defending it at all, and I'm open to hearing why we shouldn't execute people who we know for certain are guilty of commiting heinous crimes such as the man referred to in this thread initially who raped / murdered a little girl.

Maybe that's what we should be debating here... not whether or not we should have a death penalty, but how we determine the fact that "we know for certain" someone is guilty!”

“Isn't the probability of an innocent being executed about the same as an unaborted child turning into a killer?”

“Sorry about that whole slavery buttinski, SS. I know you folks are still sore about that.


Wanderer, I'm pretty sure you know that no one can give you that name and that you also know that prosecutors across the country have fiercely resisted making physical evidence available for post-execution DNA testing. I wonder why?

According to the Innocence Project, there have been 209 post-conviction DNA exonerations in the US. 15 of those 209 spent time on death row. In January 2000, Illinois Governor George Ryan (R) put a hold on executions after 13 prisoners on death row had their convictions overturned (the state had only executed 12 people since 1977).

It appears reasonable to assume that at least one innocent person has been murdered by the State. I think that's pretty #&%!$ing tragic.

Sometimes people make false confessions. Sometimes people bear false witness.

I support life without parole and don't mind spending a few bucks to make sure that innocent blood is not on my hands for tolerating a flawed system that could (and almost certainly has) lead to State sponsored murder of innocents.”

“Kill them.”

“V, how do you feel about abortion?

I find it ironic that the people who are against the death penalty for convicted murders are in favor of abortion for innocent babys. (And vice versa),”

“Vile is so silly.”

“Don't know about experience here...but IMHO here is the problem.

LIFERS really don't give a rats ass. I have seen them assault other prisoners, (short timers) and I have seen they truly don't fear crap.

So what do you do....?

Well I know there are mistakes, and the legal system is flawed, but if you show me a better one I will go with it. The fact is there are VERY guilty people. Years ago we had a kid involved in the execution of a police officer. Since none of the three scumbags would implilcate the others they all got 15 years and walked in less than 10. Luckily the little S'bag tried it again,,,...one of our detectives made a perfect three shot to the chest...

Vile I have heard the "look they were innocent" crap used in a mass attempt to cover up the fact that this happens in a MINISCULE number of cases where there is good hard evidence.

As for Life without Parole, we had a kid who was sent up for 3 years for a minor incident. He was raped repeatedly by the lifers...and the worst are the young one who really know there is nothing you can do.

I suggest we consider the Quaker system. Once they are convicted (say 3 times of violent actions YOU ARE OUT) they are placed in a 10x10 cell with a small garden toilet, table, and bookshelf. They may request the "religious or philosophical books of their choice" but no phone, no TV no contact with the outside world. Cut off, forever. Fed three times a day. but other than that...NOTHING, not a sound.

But ...here is the kicker...on the top shelf of the book case is a box with two cyanide tablets...they can take em whenever they want.”

“ROTFLMAO

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“Eat me!”

“LOL...Marko you should have added...and really NO ONE cares (LOL)”

“Ha ha, see "Chili's New Toy" thread.”

“Where did you get that picture of XLax?”

“Gambino Family Busted In Largest Mafia Sting In 20 Years

By Jonathan Dienst, Joseph Valiquette and Alice McQuillan


NEW YORK -- The entire hierarchy of the Gambino organized crime family was rounded up Thursday morning in what law enforcement officials are calling the biggest mafia bust in more than 20 years, WNBC.com has learned.

Dozens of reputed members of the Gambino crime family were charged with murders, drug trafficking, robberies, extortion, and other crimes dating back to the 1970s, authorities said Thursday.

Some 62 people were being sought or were in custody in the New York area.


Investigators said powerful capos and dozens of its members and associates are being arrested Thursday morning by teams of federal, state and local investigators........more.......
http://www.wnbc.com/investigations/15240930/detail.html”

“Silly mafia libbies.”

“Is having a silly nickname a requirement to be in the mob?”

“Most criminals have an alias. It makes it harder to find a guy if you only know him as dayhiker.”

“Right! Bobby 'Bacpac' Gorgonzola*, so nicknamed because of his propensity towards dismembering his victims and arranging them methodically in a large backpack.

*not to be confused with Luigi "Lite-weight' Lorenzo. He performs a similar ritual, but has a back problem and likes to travel light. So, he dehydrates most of his vic's vital organs...”

“Puleeez, it's reputed mob boss.”

“Raids captured almost 60 alleged Gambino made men and associates, including the family's acting boss, John "Jackie the Nose" D'Amico. However, powerful capo Nicky "Little Nick" Corrozo avoided the dragnet and is now a fugitive, authorities said.

Among those also caught: underboss Domenico "Italian Dom" Cefalo, consigliere Joseph "Jo Jo" Corozzo, Gotti Sr.'s brother Vincent Gotti, nephew Richard Gotti and soldier Charles Carneglia, accused of killing 26-year-old court officer Albert Gelb and security guard Jose Delgado-Rivera, authorities said.


Most of those names are really secretive.”

“What about Johnny Sack? Did they get him too?”

“You mean Johnny the Nutt...............Sack?
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“What about Dicky "Little Dick" Sargento??”

“Oh, and someone tell that Mississippi whack-job (pun intended) that the indictments were handed down by Andrew Cuomo, NYS attorney general. The arrests have nothing to do with the state of New Jersey...
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“I'll tell him.

Hey StoveStomper, Treebeard is too much of a wuss to tell you that the indictments were handed down by Andrew Cuomo, NYS attorney, and the arrests have nothing to do with the state of New Jersey.”

“Silly Mafia libbies :-)”

“Does this mean he should have started a new thread titled, "Life in Treebeard's New York," for this article?”

“I think there already is one. Feel free to use it.”

“Skinny Joey was safe. He's already in the slammer. The kids in South Philly haven't had a decent Christmas party in years thanks to the Fed Scrooges.”

“I agree, Sarge.”

“The arrests have nothing to do with the state of New Jersey...
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Treebeard
7:43:40 AM
2/08/08

There goes treebeard talking out his a$$, again.

*snicker*

Yeah, I'm sure the Mafia doesn't have any dealings with New Jossey.

Hey genius, does the Liberty View Harbor site in Jersey City, New Jersey, have "nothing to do" with New Jersey?”

“Considering there's no mention of the Liberty View Harbor Site anywhere in your article, I guess that's puts my ass at genius level compared with the idiocy that comes out of you!”

“Hey, and he's only workin' with half a brain.”

“Half a brain easily equals both treebread's and mmArKo's added togeter. LOL

READING IS FUNDIMENTAL.”

“Try fundamental...”

“Hmmmmmm, ok!!! Man, you are losing it just a touch here, aren't you?? You're making about as much sense as XL does...”

“whatever...............”

“Come on Treebeard, the guy has a long way(down) to go to reach that level.”

“yeah.....let me be Ahead of Stove on SOMETHING (LOL).....”

“WAHAHAHAHA

That is, New Jerseyans pay some of the country's highest taxes to get one of the country's worst governments.

In a new study, Governing magazine ranks Jersey the nation's third-worst-managed state. The problem isn't just the shambles that its finances are in, but also its lack of investment in infrastructure, its poor employee training and development, and a failure to apply technology and data to manage public services well.



http://www.nypost.com/seven/03102008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/nj__high_price_for_rotten_govt_101195.htm?page=1”

“That is, New Jerseyans pay some of the country's highest taxes to get one of the country's worst governments.


I thought I read recently that the NJ govt was about to slash all sorts of spending.”

“No different from the rest of america. Both sides vote for the best liar.”

“NY Post = the National Enquirer.”