Clown Prince von Rumsfeld

“You liberals are such violent people.”

““You liberals are such violent people.”

They are progressive SS. I mean, what’s wrong with putting 700+ Batista Party members in front of the firing squad? What’s wrong with racial elitism and having 85% of your total prison population being from that lesser race? What’s wrong with your population being poor while you get fat and super rich off of them? It’s a perfect society man!”

“I'm far less concerned about Chavez having a few AK-47's than Pakistan (you know, the country that sold nuclear materials to Iran) getting F-16 fighter jets. Isn't Musharraf's hold on power just a little precarious? I think it would be great to further arm a future mullah-ruled nuclear power. This could really bite us in the ass.
last edited: 3/25/05 11:50:37 AM”

“Castro tried to get Nikita Khrushchev to nuke several southern cities in the US in the early 1960's, including New Orleans and probably Baton Rouge.

Scary thought man! I live between New Orleans and Baton Rouge. The Bateauxdriver would not be.”

“U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is criticizing
Venezuela's reported efforts to purchase 100,000 AK-47 assault rifles from
Russia, suggesting that Venezuela's possession of so many weapons would
threaten the hemisphere.

Where is the NRA when you need them?”

“Now the person that is really cool is OBL. The way that man has our fearless poodle, Prez W, jumping through hoops is really hilarious. When the Three Stooges (Bush, Rumsfeld, and Rice) get together to talk about him I'm crying from laughing so hard. He's taking on the whole US Army with all their gadgets and they can't do crap. So much for projecting military super power.
last edited: 3/25/05 11:56:36 AM”

“yeah - I'm shak'n from all the stuff OBL has been doin' to us lately as he promised. Shak'n!!”

“You have your thoughts about Iran all wrong. The best thing in the world would be for Iran to have nukes and plenty of them. Then Ariel Sharon and George Bush would have to sober up and face reality. Sooner or later they are going to have to go to the negotiation table over the Palestinian issue. The sooner the better.
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Now where we? ..... Oh yeah ...OBL. I know devout Muslims don't drink but he would be one person to toss back a few with. He'd probably start reminiscing about the good ole times when George Sr. was his bud and the Stingers flowed like water. Just think, shooting down all the Hind Mi-24s you wanted to. Ahhh those were the days!
last edited: 3/25/05 12:14:06 PM”

“You must be a cook back at Fort Apache in Kansas.”

“Um. Ok.”

“Step away from the crack pipe.”

“Rumor has it that Rummy is on the way out and may be replaced by Joe Lieberman.”

“I like Lieberman. He's an old school democrat.”

“I wonder if he tried putting two sticking out of his nose, as well?
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“What a geek!”

“Saki will do that to you.”

“I wonder if Rumskull does white face too.

"Oh, Mammy!!!"”

“Haha! He does have a good sense of humor.”

“the expression on the woman on the left says it all.”

“And what's it say? "Get your thumb out of my ass!"?”

“Rumsfeld: Al Qaeda has better PR. Says U.S. government still functions as 'five and dime' store

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/17/security.rumsfeld.reut/index.html

Maybe Al Qaeda has better PR than the Bush administration because the trustworthiness/credibility of the Bush administration is ZERO around the world.
last edited: 2/17/06 10:25:46 PM”

“It was people just like you, including you, USA, who made every effort to ensure people didn't trust the Bush administration, and by association, the United States.”

“With the approval ratings as they've been, the majority of americans can't be directly associated with the administration.”

“Who wants to be associated with the Vice President of Torture, Dick Cheney? You can't expect any better PR than Saddam had when you consider the abuses in Iraq are the same under Bush and Rumsfeld as they were under Saddam. Really hypocritical that Rumsfeld is complaining about the PR when he is responsible for the torture and killings in Iraq.
last edited: 2/18/06 1:08:00 PM”

“USA insists on proving my point.”

“Take your head out from under your right wing from timt to time -you might get a worm.”

“Good comeback letsgetKRUNKdawg. You must be highly respected in your community.”

“I'm not. The pigeons in my community don't like the fact that when I'm on their tail I know they turn opposite of their strong wing.”

“Paul D. Eaton, a retired Army major general, who was in charge of training the Iraqi military from 2003 to 2004, says Rumsfeld should resign because he is "incompetent strategically, operationally and tactically, and is far more than anyone else responsible for what has happened to our important mission in Iraq": http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/19/opinion/19eaton.html?n=Top%2fOpinion%2fEditorials%20and%20Op%2dEd%2fOp%2dEd%2fContributors&_r=2&oref=slogin&pagewanted=all
last edited: 3/20/06 1:07:16 PM”

“If he were to step aside ,someone might open ,'the closet' rummy's' been guarding. And that, not even an antiwar guy like me ,wants that to happen.
last edited: 3/20/06 2:05:57 PM”

“Please clarify Salebord. Whats this closet about?”

“The skeleton type.”

“Sounds like sour grapes from a General who was relieved of his duty.”

“What would be in his skeleton closet that an antiwar guy wouldn't want coming out?”

“SARGE! we got another STRAW to grasp for the liberal socialists to say AMERICA sucks...(LOL)”

“I hear ya brother! I tried to post a UFO before, but got the danged 1040. It's like listening to George Noory on this thread.”

““Sounds like sour grapes from a General who was relieved of his duty.”
bacpac
4:12:05 PM
3/20/06

“SARGE! we got another STRAW to grasp for the liberal socialists to say AMERICA sucks...(LOL)”
XL400236
8:21:48 PM
3/20/06

“I hear ya brother! I tried to post a UFO before, but got the danged 1040. It's like listening to George Noory on this thread.”
Sarge
8:25:58 PM
3/20/06



The Axis of idiots speak again!

In other news:

AP - CLEVELAND

After President Bush's propogandist speech on Monday, the City of Cleveland sprang into action. "We anticipated the effect of his visit and were prepared." stated Fred Smoot, Chairman of the Keep Cleveland Clean Department. 25,000 cans of Lysol, and 250,000 gallons of recycled water were used to disinfect the city after Bush left. Smoot added, "We wanted to protect the population from all of the diseases and afflictions that corporate whores like Bush could spread. A guy like Bush is the extreme, kind of like the plague, so we took the utmost measures."
Since the massive cleaning, there have been no reports of corpiphilis, greederpes, or A.I.D.S.O.M. (Automatic Inciniary Directed Servitude of the Masses) that other communities that Bush has visited faced after he left.
last edited: 3/21/06 4:02:41 AM”

“It was refreshing to hear the President field answers to the citizen's questions. I think he needs to do that more often. He really looked Presidential and gave straight, concise answers in the face of some very tough questions.”

“very tough questions?

The attendees were all invited. I'm a member of the City Club, and know how the process works bro. They fill the room with supporters of the particular speaker. There weren't any Axis of Idiot people at the meeting where Ted Strickland (Ohio's next gov.) spoke a few months ago.”

“Damn it Lt. Dan! You took my spot in the axis of idiots! Do you know how hard I worked for that spot? I've worked for two terms now for this title and now some upstart just swoops in and takes it.”

“The Nelson Report

Thurs., Mar. 30, 2006

BOLTEN for CARD Implications

Republican friends say do not expect to see any major moves, including asking Treasury’s John Snow to retire, before Bolten is in place. But when that happens, it will shock few. The “Big One” is Rummy...has President Bush finally gotten to the point where he sees Defense Secretary Don Rumsfeld as a liability, not an asset? You can see evidence for this, if you want.

Specifically, note who has been run out for TV recently defending and explaining Iraq...Bush, not Rumsfeld. The President has been forced to put himself irrevocably on the line, both in public, and with the press, because Rumsfeld has lost all credibility...that’s what our Republican friends say is the “inside word”.

Sources also confirm that the President has absorbed the fact that the professional military has completely given up on Rumsfeld...admittedly a process which began for some “uniforms” even before 9/11, but which has continued to affect...or infect...virtually the whole military establishment today. (Rumsfeld’s contemptuous treatment of the senior brass...including the Joint Chiefs...has become legend, if somewhat under-reported, since these folks are loyal to the institution, if not the man, despite the provocations.)

Some insiders had been hoping that Rumsfeld would take the opportunity of the third-anniversary of the war to step down. But he either didn’t hear the hints, or didn’t care. So it apparently will be up to Bolten to pull the plug, on the President’s behalf.

Won’t Vice President Cheney step in to save his ideological and political comrade? Sources don’t think the Veep is in any position to challenge the facts on the ground...he can see that Rumsfeld has lost the confidence of both the troops, and the media.

So the question may boil down to Bolten’s authority, and capacity. Observers say that the Bolten of today is just as smart as he ever was, with an additional layer of toughness. “Now he has learned that sometimes you must fire people, even your friends, if you want to succeed”.

So does he have the authority to fire Rumsfeld? Inside betting is “yes”...so stay tuned.

If Rummy goes, who’s next? Sources say don’t be surprised if Bush goes to Capitol Hill. Some Republicans think Senate Armed Services chair John Warner might look logical, given the confidence issues within both the military and the media. And come January next year, Warned is term-limited out as chairman, so will be “available”. But if Warner is deemed too old, some sources say don’t forget that former Senator and Indiana governor Dan Coats was on the short list back in 2000-2001 transition.

Hummm....we recall reporting at that time that Coats had DOD sewed up, pending his personal interview down at the ranch in Crawford, but that Coats’ performance was SO dismal the George Bush of that time...raw, inexperienced, and naïve on both defense and foreign policy...rejected Coats out of hand.

What about former Deputy Secretary of State Rich Armitage, we hear you ask? Certainly Armitage has been known to express serious interest...and perhaps even serious hopes he could be on the list....due to his strong personal relationship with Bush, despite his loyalty to Colin Powell.

There could hardly be a stronger choice to prove that Rumsfeld has been “fired” than Armitage, but you have to figure out how to parse Armitage’s recent interviews in Australia, for example, or with The Oriental Economist, in which he had some frank and not entirely comradely things to say about the current Bush team, Secretary Condi Rice included.

Back to Bolten himself...he came up through the USTR general counsel’s job under Carla Hills and Bush Poppa, and while not involved in the US-Japan Structural Impediments Initiative of the Clinton years, is well-versed in both the politics and the business of Japan, Korea and China issues. Journalists recall that he was The Guy when the annual National Trade Estimates report was front page news, making him the chief strategist during the Golden Age of the 301 process.

Something...or someone...to watch for, once Bolten gets in the White House: will he bring back his very close friend Gary Edson, who was forced by bad health to step down from the NSC/NEC operation after the 2004 campaign? Sources say Edson is completely recovered now, and may be ready to tackle the pressures of the White House once again.”

“The Nelson Report 4/12 MORE PRESSURE ON RUMMY

ANOTHER GENERAL SAYS RUMMY MUST GO
ARMITAGE IN THE FT...ADULT SUPERVISION

SUMMARY: as the specter of war with Iran rises, despite the by now, all-too-familiar disclaimers by President Bush, there are signs of a full-scale revolt in the US military establishment against Defense Secretary Don Rumsfeld. The latest retired general to blast Rummy for Iraq mismanagement comes from just-retired Maj. Gen. John Batiste, commander of the 1st Infantry Division...using the same basic charges of Rumsfeld’s arrogance, incompetence, and bullying that is increasingly the theme of public critics in the military and intelligence establishments.

Batiste thus seems to be heeding the call of his retired colleague, Marine Lt. Gen. Gregory Newbold, much in the news for his blast, which concluded with a call to still-serving senior officers to step forward in the best interests of the armed services and the nation.

With Batiste joining Newbold, and long-standing critics such as Gen. Anthony Zinni, the next step in the battle to drive out Rumsfeld (with the implied warning not to go to war with Iran) would seem to be whether any of the current Joint Chiefs is prepared to say in public, what many are known to say in private.

Opposition to Rumsfeld actually was almost instant, from his appointment in early 2001. At the time, much was attributed to his battle to downsize and streamline the Army, and to reorganize many functions in the Pentagon. But well before 9/11, it was known that his open contempt for most of the senior Brass, and his high-handed treatment of virtually anyone not in his inner circle, had created a situation where many defense experts predicted he would soon resign.

Then came 9/11, followed by the apparent success in Afghanistan, and the invasion of Iraq, so the critics were forced to subside and to work “with the Army that you have”, to recall one of Rumsfeld’s more unfortunate evasions of responsibility for the post-invasion situation.

More recently, it’s been something of an “open secret” that key members of Senate Armed Services, and perhaps others on Capitol Hill, sought and have been receiving personal, private briefings from Pentagon brass...behind Rumsfeld’s back. This is due to a mounting awareness that the Iraq disaster is directly connected to Rumsfeld’s management and personality flaws, and that such complaints are not just sour grapes from officers who may have private issues not related to Rummy’s competence.

So it will be interesting to see (or to learn) whether Senate Armed Services chairman John Warner comes to the conclusion that Rumsfeld’s continued tenure at DOD has become such an obstacle to any chance of success in Iraq that he must go. Warner is too much of an insider to push Rumsfeld in public, but don’t be surprised to discover, should Rummy step down, that Warner had more than a little something to do with it.

In any event, we suggested in Monday’s Nelson Report (4/10) that opposition to Rumsfeld and a war with Iran is a major factor behind the increasingly detailed “leaks” of US operational plans in the British and US press, including Seymour Hersh’s blockbuster in the current New Yorker, reporting on contingency plans to use tactical nuclear weapons on Iran.

It’s our thesis that the leaks, joined with the calls for Rumsfeld’s resignation, including the detailed charges against his mismanagement, is the professional military and intelligence community way, in desperation, of using the disinfectant of sunlight to stop any inclination by President Bush to conclude that the US should...and could get away with...a military adventure in Iran.

In a recent interview with The Washington Post, President Carter’s National Security Advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski, spoke for wide swaths of the US foreign policy and defense community when he warned that not only would an attack by Bush be an act of war, against which retaliation by Iran was certain, but that “I think of war with Iran as the ending of America’s present role in the world”.

“Zbig” went on to warn, “Iraq may have been a preview of that, but it’s still redeemable if we get out fast. In a war with Iran, we’ll get dragged down for 20 or 30 years. The world will condemn us. We will lose our position in the world.”

The President has clearly been thrown on the defensive by the combined weight of the Hersh article, last week’s London Sunday Telegraph leak of an intelligence briefing to the British Cabinet predicting Bush was preparing for war with Iran, and the growing public revolt by high ranking US military officers.

But Bush’s disclaimers have had the disquieting effect of further lowering confidence in his intentions because many, if not all, are word for word his utterances during the run-up to the invasion of Iraq.

It may also be an unhappy coincidence, but this week, stories have surfaced proving from White House records that yet another Bush WMD claim about Iraq...those infamous chemical/biological war trailers...were known by Bush to not be what he claimed at the time. So once again, the country is forced to try and parse the difference between political salesmanship and lies.

Throw-in for spice the Libby defense tactic of claiming that Bush and VP Cheney ordered him to leak classified information to the N.Y. Time which added to the WMD hysteria and justification for the Iraq war...and there is starting to be a toxic mix of fact, and informed speculation to measure against the facts of intelligence failure and apparently deliberate untruths which paints a picture of the Bush Administration history will not likely admire.

Not a happy situation for a president facing more than two years in office, and one which helps underwrite the deteriorating public support for Bush personally, and the Republican Party generally, on every single issue of importance to the public, including...at last...national security.

Democrats, for the most part, are adopting the prudent strategy of avoiding their usual circular firing squad on themselves, and are content to stand back while Congressional Republicans, and the Republican pundit/chattering class, commit auto-genocide. Whether this reticence can survive the temptation to come forward with “solutions” to a situation the Democrats don’t control is, of course, a big question...but not one for tonight.
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“The Post article:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12280913/”

“Whooptie do...another sell out wanting a "military advisor" job on cable.”

“I guess if he's right that doesn't matter?”

“Washington, DC (APE) -Jeannette Huster, mother of embattled Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld today became the latest in a succession of high-profile persons insisting on his resignation. She spoke to press members from the Pentagon, having been clandestinely smuggled past security by anonymous Pentagon officials. In the past month, no less than four high-ranking retired generals have stepped forward to criticize Mr. Rumsfeld to no avail, so it remains to be seen what if any effect this latest call for his resignation will have upon the Bush administration.
Huster initially joked with reporters who had been under the assumption that she was dead. "Our family gets that a lot, even Donny," quipped the registered Centenarian.

Huster then became serious when discussing issues surrounding the Iraq war and the role that her son has played. "When you get to be my age you have a lot of time to just observe and absorb things. I am personally ashamed at the way things have turned out in Iraq, and the hand that my son has had in it. I believed in him when it first started, because... you want to be able to trust your son and your family, but this has just gone far enough."

"I know my boy," continued Huster, "he always did have a little bit of a problem with the truth. But I could always tell. Now don't get me wrong, I still love my son, and deep down I still believe he's a good person. He's just been hanging around with the wrong crowd again. I've asked him very nicely ever since this whole thing started to just put a stop to it, but he won't let it go. Well, the time for politely asking is over, so now I'm telling him."


Huster became visibly testy when a reporter attempted to compare Rumsfeld's stint in office to that of former Vietnam era Defense Secretary Robert McNamara. "I have met Robert McNamara, and I know Robert McNamara personally, and my son, sir, is no Robert McNamara," she said.

At the conclusion of the press conference, a furious Rumsfeld was contacted for comment. He insisted to reporters that his mother was indeed dead and that the Pentagon would be launching an internal investigation into the hoax that had apparently been perpetuated, starting within its newly established Psy-Ops division.

-- unconfirmedsources.com”

“It would be nice to think that only Bush and Rumsfeld are to blame for all of this, but the whole country made the decision to go to war.

If the American public had come out 65% against the war before it started, there never would have been a war. And Americans have continued to reelect those who started the war.

At some point, I suppose we're all going to throw Bush overboard, but that only ignores how dysfunctional all of America has been in this sorry little chapter of our history.

Every American should look themselves in the mirror and buck up. We made the bed...”

“Too many Americans see violence and war as a viable solution to problems, real or imagined.

It seems to be ingrained and part of American culture.

Violence shows up in way too much popular entertainment and real life crime statistics refelect the tendency to violence.

Forty years ago the supposed "Greatest Generation" allowed the government to drag America into deeper involvement in a conflict that could not be won.

The present conflict, like the past one, may also be a disaster in the making but it is surely a bonanza for certain business interests.
Win or lose, there is money to be made.”

“RITTER: "No one has substantiated the allegations that Iraq possesses weapons of mass destruction or is attempting to acquire weapons of mass destruction. And of course that is the reason we have been given for going to war against Iraq -- because of the threat posed by these weapons. It has been nothing but rhetorically laced speculation, not hard facts, that have been presented by either the United States or Great Britain to back this up, and until they provide hard facts, there is no case for war."




http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/07/17/saddam.ritter.cnna/”