Bitter Kerry & Boxer vote NO on Condi Ri ce

“Bitter Kerry & Boxer vote No on Condi Rice

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050119/D87NASRG0.html”

“your way late on that news”

“So they dissented and didn't vote for her. What of it? She contradicted herself in the past over the Iraq war enough times to make this plausible to me...”

“Condi in '08!”

“Maybe they voted no as she's an incompetant national security advisor, with little to no diplomatic skills.”

“Condi was not qualified to be the National Security lead. It's no wonder whatsoever that the greatest lapse of domestic security in history occurred on her watch. Of course, Jr. picked Condi for that post primarily so he would have a puppy dog who wouldn't challenge his 'war games' from a national security perspective.

She is possibly more qualified for Sec./State, however Powell was a DREAM come true for that position and Jr. just pissed the guys talents away.

However, Condi's history is one that does well in singular / independent roles... she's definitely an ego-maniac ... not a trait for a good Sec./State.
last edited: 1/19/05 3:40:23 PM”

“Troll wisdom.”

“she's so not qualified for Sec of State.”

“Awful big lips on that cartoon.”

“Her lips are smaller than Jr.'s hat.”

“troll”

“idiot name caller”

“troll”

“Oh, go hang yourself and beat it”

“LOL”

“Kerry, the uniter.”

“Why is it such a big deal that somebody voted no. We should be outraged at the morons that voted yes.”

“Why should they have voted no?”

“To pi$$ you off.”

“To protest Powell leaving? We need somebody that can look smuck-a-telly Jr. in the face and say, "Hell no, that's a stupid idea, and it's not going to happen." Rice is going to bow down to "the man" for the next 4 years. Hurray!”

“Powell never said, "Hell no, that is a stupid idea."

After four years of claiming everyone else was running the Administration the left now tries to paint President Bush as a ruthless egomaniac.

Why?”

“Geo, Seeing Kerry vote against Ms. Rice made my day. I loved it. It certainly did not pi$$ me off.”

“Rice is a lying sack.
She does not answer questions put to her......unless she has an adequate lie prepared.


In a democracy some vote yes and some vote no.

What do ya want, a rubber stamp congress?”

“When did Ms. Rice lie?”

“"Ms. Rice" ??

She was asked about contradictions and instead of answers she asked questions.

The best defense is sometimes an offence.

When?
At the Senate hearings where she refused to testify under oath.

I can still see that gap-tooth liar telling the world that she did not want to wait for absolute proof of WMD a couple of years ago.

She did not want to see the "...smoking gun be a mushroom cloud over one of our cities...."”

“That is not a lying.

Lying is accusing a public official of lying, because you disagree with their politics.”

“She told us that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and could and would use them on short notice or give them to terrorists.
We could not wait......must invade NOW.
Remember?

THAT was a lie.
And to say that she was mistaken is or that there is some other reason to invade was a weak attemp to cover that lie.

She lied.....people died.
They are still dying.
last edited: 1/19/05 8:21:56 PM”

“The CIA reports were wrong. The entire Western intelligence network was wrong.

There has been no evidence that the Administration misconstrued the facts.”

“Rice is part of the Western intelligence network.

Rice and company picked the CIA information that conformed with their agenda.

They got caught and lied and prevaricated their way out of responsibility and accountability.

Good night Mr. Brick.
(bbw = bush-lovin' brick wall)”

“Actually, I don't think the CIA has been wrong about anything. Pre-war October Tenet in public testimony said "Iraq is a low level threat unless cornered." They were right about that (and Tenet only changed his tune after January, after Jr. decided to invade).

As to the WMD...

We do *KNOW* Saddam had the stuff and the milling machines and other things. We knew it for certain... because we sold the crap to him and we have the invoices!

The weapons inspectors went to the sites where the milling machines were installed and according to what has been made public the entire wharehouse was cleaned out spic & span.

So the real question isn't whether Iraq had them, we know he did.

The real question is... where are they?

They are either in other countries, Syria, Iran, Lebanon ... or Saddam was telling the truth when he said he destroyed all of it. Actually, what he really said at the time pre-war, from memory was "there are no such weapons in Iraq" meaning he probably moved it all pre-war.

... BTW... having 500 tons of VX and milling machines for precisions nuclear armamement and other things floating around there randomly is a worse scenario than even when Saddam had them in my opinion... ESPECIALLY when you consider all the new people that hate us because of Jr.
last edited: 1/19/05 8:33:20 PM”

“I have never seen any documentaion to support that the Administration 'picked' CIA information. I don't even know what that means.

Again with the lying charges. Good luck Mr. Mud.”

“Of course Powell would never publicly come out and smear the administration. Instead, he kept his mouth shut until after the election and then bowed out. That doesn't mean it's not obvious there was a rift between powell and the president.

Gary Younge in New York
Thursday May 6, 2004
The Guardian

Colin Powell's key aide has described US sanctions policy against countries such as Pakistan and Cuba as "the dumbest policy on the face of the Earth".

In an article in GQ magazine Larry Wilkerson, chief of staff of the United States secretary of state, bemoans Mr Powell's firefighting role in President George Bush's cabinet.

"He has spent as much time doing damage control and, shall we say, apologising around the world for some less-than-graceful actions as he has anything else."

The article, which includes an interview with Mr Powell, is most illuminating for the comments made by his close friends and colleagues who are explicit about his distrust and disdain for the hawks in the administration.

Mr Powell's deputy, Richard Armitage, remarks on his boss's anguish at the damage to his credibility following his speech to the United Nations last year making the case for war and insisting there were weapons of mass destruction. "It's a source of great distress for the secretary," he said.

Meanwhile his mentor from the National War College, Harlan Ullman, describes the US national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, as a "jerk".

He said: "This is, in many ways, the most ideological administration Powell's ever had to work for. Not only is it very ideological, but they have a vision. And I think Powell is inherently uncomfortable with grand visions like that."

Their candour suggests that the internecine battles within the administration are becoming increasingly bitter and open, particularly those between the departments of defence and the state. "None of Powell's friends had made any pretence of speculating about or guessing at his feelings," wrote the journalist, Wil Hylton. "They spoke for him openly and on the record."

Mr Wilkerson even makes jibes at the war record of Mr Bush's inner circle, comparing their desire for military conflict with their reluctance to serve as young men: "I make no bones about it. I have some reservations about people who have never been in the face of battle, so to speak, who are making cavalier decisions about sending men and women out to die."

He then goes on to name former neo-conservative adviser, Richard Perle. He said: "Thank God [he] tendered his resignation and no longer will be even a semi-official person in this administration."

One of the most glaring examples of this departmental rivalry is in the policy towards China and Taiwan, which has been lobbying the US to support its move towards official independence from China. Such a move would incense the Chinese and inevitably inflame tensions in the area. Nonetheless, Mr Powell's colleagues say the Bush administration has been encouraging the Taiwanese in their efforts.

"[Taiwan] is another place where you get a lot of tension," says Mr Wilkerson. "Because there are literally people from the defence department on that island every week. Every week. And have been for three years. And many of those people are delivering messages to Taiwan that Taiwan needn't worry. Meanwhile, we're trying to maintain a more balanced attitude."

Mr Wilkerson compares Mr Powell's carrot-and stick approach to Pakistan with the hawks' lack of diplomacy.

"When all you use is a stick, you're not going to get very far." Negotiation, he argued, makes more progress "than if you just sanction somebody and walk off and say, 'That's it, I'm not dealing with you any more'."

"It hasn't worked in Cuba for 40 years," says Mr Hylton.

"[It is the] dumbest policy on the face of the Earth," replies Mr Wilkerson.”

“Condoleeza Rice is a pleasant enough sort. But I don't think she's anything but a PR person for Bush. I don't get the idea that any other ambassador would shake in their boots when she walks into the room. And I don't think she has any new ideas about how to make Iraq work - the only important issue in Bush's second term.

She's a nice looking black woman who speaks nicely and follows what the men up top tell her. That's why she got the job.”

“Why should they have voted no?”
bbw
7:28:26 PM

If you read her statements to the committee the last few days, all her answers were essentially the same. She conceded "the possibility" that they made some bad decisions, but qualified each and every point with the "end justifies the means." Sorry, but putting down a Senator who exercised some backbone by voting against that sh_t was nothing to be shamed of. Your head is up your ass, bbw!”

“The lunatic fringe has destroyed the Democratic party.

Congratulations, Thank you.”

“I think Kerry did the right thing and I commend him for it. The administration needs to be held accountable. Iraq is a disaster.”

“"...the greatest lapse of domestic security in history occurred on her watch."

I read somewhere and saw on t.v., that it was during Clinton's watch that he drastically cut the budget of the "Intelligence services"....resulting in very bad national security.”

“We wouldn't need national security if we weren't such assholes to the rest of the world.”

“Very bad national security??

In 2001 out-going national secruity people warned Rice and company about terrorist threats and were dismissed.”

“Liars and cowards...the lot of them.... Condi included. In the end, all will get their just desserts.

So Stovey.....how's Ray Killen doing today? Ya think he's happy with Bush's girl Condi?”

“Some of your best work bacpac.”

“So, now centrist politics is "lunatic fringe", yo?”

“That says very little for his other work, Nigal!”

“Who really cares if 2 douchebags voted no, she still got in. OOOHHHH, they are 2 democrats that voted no, well then off with their heads!

Come on, if we are going to argue about politics, argue about something worthwile.”

“yeah...afterall, it'll be fun watching Condi fall on her face. Maybe she'll get that toof fixed then.

At least Kerry finally found his sac and voted against the tide.”

“Ray Killen doing today????

Funny you should ask, the State of Mississippi is about to put him on trial for murder. Not the Feds, but the State. Then we can fry his sorry church burning, baby killing KKK a$$.

That's why he's been in the news and why you 'South Haters' are spewing your hate once again. Things have changed from 50 years ago.”

“Huh?”

“Things have changed from 50 years ago.”
StoveStomper
9:03:13 AM
1/20/05

it is still there just more hidden than it use to be.”

“http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/19/rice.confirmation/index.html

Senate Dems may delay full vote on Rice

snip.....Aides said Democrats Barbara Boxer of California and Robert Byrd of West Virginia plan to give long speeches opposing the nomination in an effort to extend the debate until 7 p.m., when the inaugural balls begin.......snip


Ex-Klansman Dem Robert Byrd and the Feminist Boxer speaking against a Black Female rising to one of the highest gov offices.

I hope this news story is just that, a story.”