Atheist Loses Bid to Ban Inaugural Praye r

““It's bad enough to be called a troll, but if you were a leftist liberal troll, now that would really be something. Or even worse, a leftist liberal commie pinko socialist troll. That would be the absolute worst.”
Geobeet
7:21:55 PM
1/19/05

You talkin' to me, fool?”

“Since when does practicing your own faith, while being President become promoting a religion? If the guy wants to say a prayer, let him say a prayer. No one is making anyone listen. Besides, don't certain subdivisions of the government do this kind of stuff anyway (think military chaplain, etc...)?

Do you think it may be possible that the media is over-dramatizing the whole situation, being that the President is probably the highest-profile job in the country (if not world), especially now?

Do you think that this would even be such an issue if the various western religions (which make up the faiths of a very large majority of this country) were a little less resentful of each other?”

“Where did I say Republican Church? You automatically assume that I said church and I live in the South that it's a Republican Church. I know for a fact our last minister voted for Clinton 2x. I also know for a fact that our church has homosexual members. I've never heard anything directly political come from the pulpit. Buddha Bear, we've already been over this.

A big line item in our budget is for Conference giving. The bulk of this money goes to social programs all over the world. I don't know if total giving is 50%, but it's in the ballpark.

You sure are making a lot of arguments based on your assumptions or lack of first hand knowledge. Heck, based on that alone you have to be Buddha Bear.”

“I wonder who Father Guido Sarducci would vote for.”

“> Since when does practicing your own faith,
> while being President become promoting a
> religion?

This, in it's own, is not a big deal, and in general, people should be tolerant of others religious beliefs (of course, I've always believed Jr.'s Christianity is a fraud to use Christian voters, very few of which actually support any of his policies).

The larger concern I have is the use of tax money to promote religion, which he definitely is doing with the 'Faith-Based Initiatives'.

Church's don't even pay taxes, so this is definitely using non-religious people's money to promote religion.

I have no idea why no one has challenged the Faith-Based Initiatives in court yet, but someone should.

And again, I can be tolerant of these things, but only if the church industry is paying taxes!”

“In the '30s those who supported the fascists in Spain were:
Landowners
Aristocrats
Capitalists
Reactionaries
Militarists
and
The Church”

“LOL. These so-called trollings are a joke.

Oh man......I'm feeling upset and riled by this important prayer issue. Damn that Stove Guy...he really gets my goat.

HA!

I could start "trolling" about Mississippi. Ya know, like maybe literacy levels, poverty, ignorance, racism, KKK, Ray Killen, Medgar Evers, obesity, yadda, yadda, yadda. Wooeee!!!

But what the hell. I really don't care. They gotta live there not me.

Those that live in glass houses......

Enjoy”

“In Spain there was 1 church and that was the Catholic Church. It's a little differnt playing field in this day and time.”

“JO, don't live for 50 years ago.”

“I didn't intend to offend my fellow Americans who live south of the Mason-Dixon line ( hey .....I do too). I try to love all god's chillin. But if Stovey wants to act hateful and throw stones.....well, ya reap what ya sew.”

“SS, that still exist today”

“All of that certainly exist, but much, much less than years gone by. Baby steps have been taken instead of leaps and bounds hoped for, but steps have been taken.”

“True, the RC Church was THE church in Spain.

Things are not the same but are similar.

In a fascist regime society moves in the direction of feudal.

The rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

Things move away from the democratic and toward oligarchy.

Here in the U.S. wealth is being concentrated in the hands of the upper class.

We are being milked.......bilked out of a decent future.
last edited: 1/20/05 8:44:10 AM”

“SS

Where was it that Ronald Reagen gave a campaign speech about state's rights in 1980?

Oh yeah....it was in Philadelphia, Mississippi. Where those 3 uppity boys were murdered by those KKK heroes.

Damn strange coincidence.”

“Ray Killen doing today????

Funny you should ask, the State of Mississippi is about to put him on trial for murder. Not the Feds, but the State. Then we can fry his sorry church burning, baby killing KKK a$$.

That's why he's been in the news and why you 'South Haters' are spewing your hate once again. Things have changed from 50 years ago.”

“didn't you just post that on another thread?? maybe I am seeing things..more coffee please”

“Ooooweee! It was a classic retort.”

“Um Trail Turtle, your tax dollars already pay for prayer (if I'm correct). Every session of congress opens with prayer from the congressional chaplin.”