Unions (not) Working for You and your Fa milies

“Yeah, he obviously didn’t read the whole thread because he says…

“Further, what Nigal fails to mention is that this particular walmart store had been losing money prior to the union effort.”

Not only did I not deny this fact I openly admitted it and clarified the point.

“I'm drinking coffee from Wal-Mart right now, made in my coffeepot from Wal-Mart also. My crockpot is cooking away filled with low priced food from Wal-Mart.”

Went and did my weekly shopping there just yesterday and saved about $50 over my usual bill at Krogers. I will concede that unions may have their place and use in certain places and it is every worker’s right to unionize. It’s legal so I support that right. As long as the union does things legal like I don’t care who they deceive and get to join. It’s when they start doing the bomb threats and the like (of which they have a long history of) that I think they are dangerous. It is also a legal right of the employer to not cave to unions and to close up shop. It is also my right to drive 5 miles passed a union grocery store to shop at a non union store where I KNOW the prices will be lower. Granted my groceries won’t be bagged in the highly efficient and skillful way a union store might do it but it will come out better on my weekly receipt and will add up at the end of the year. But because I want to keep more of my own money and save money I somehow hate my neighbors and want to see them out of work? Right…”

“Workers are just capitalizing on economies of scale when they join unions. It's kind of like when two businesses merge or an alliance is created. The result is better bargaining power with suppliers.

When workers join together, it creates a more efficient marketplace.”

“An individual, after all, is simply a corporation of one.

When Microsoft increases profits, it's good.

When Walmart increases profits, it's good.

When an American worker increases profits, it's good.”

“"Have you seen our trade deficit lately?”
- Reformed Lurker

Sure, and it's not pretty....same in Canada. Everything that's being produced in China, India, Thailand etc. are being shipped back to north America (and other countries). If our hourly wages weren't so high (taxes too), maybe some of those companies i.e. Nike, Panasonic etc. would keep the jobs here.....and we would import less.”

“BB - have you considered that many Wal-Mart employees use it as a second job and thus work part time AND have their health benefits paid elsewhere?”

“Please tell me that I’m not the only one who sees the irony in the fact that there is so much talk about corporate responsibility and ethics while 50% (probably closer to 75%) of these posts are being posted on COMPANY TIME? Everyone wants to complain about productivity and company loyalty yet no one wants to talk about their own productivity and loyalty. It’s the same old spoiled American worker mentality of the company owes me; not that I might owe the company something.”

“Boo Hiss................. ;-)”

“Back to work!! LOL!”

“bacpac?
Is that you?”

“I rarely post from home.”

“For the most part, I post at home and on snow days. Needless to say, it's been a snowy winter:)”

“Nigal is just being his control-freak, busy body self.”

“"Unfortunately the concessions of the union agreement have caused the store to be unprofitable and Walmart is closing the store." Wonder if the union’s going to be there for these poor people they duped into committing vocational suicide?

Unions, working for you and your family…

http://www.dsausa.org/lowwage/walmart/2004/unionized%20store.html”
Nigal the dumbass
8:37:07 AM
2/10/05”

“I'm glad the kinder, gentler BB decided to return.”

“Nigal - no, you really don't owe the company anything if you are making them money. They DO owe you a fair wage for your time and efforts and some benefits. It's not a gift when a company pays you for a day's work.”

“Uhh, I think Nigals point is that if you're posting on TT then you're not working.”

“I see his point. But they also don't own me, even for the nine, ten or more hours I'm here for a day. I'm paid to fulfill a role for them, and I do it, successfully. If I need to work longer then I do so. My company is lucky to have me, and thankfully they appreciate this. If you're completing your job successfully then I don't think they should dictate how exactly how I spend my time when I'm with them.”

“Does that also enable you to use company owned equipment for goofing off? I'm using company owned equipment now, but just asking the question.

Here's another question, you're reading TT and the boss walks by, do you
a)minimize TT
b) keep it up and say high
c) keep on surfing?

I think the answer indicates how one really feels about surfing the net at work.”

“Yeah, as long as I don't cost the company anything, or do anything disreputable or illegal.”

“Same here, but being allowed to do something is very different than your God given right to do same.”

““"Unfortunately the concessions of the union agreement have caused the store to be unprofitable and Walmart is closing the store." Wonder if the union’s going to be there for these poor people they duped into committing vocational suicide?

Unions, working for you and your family…

http://www.dsausa.org/lowwage/walmart/2004/unionized%20store.html”

Now Sasquash, had you actually read the whole thread you would have seen that I discussed this point in full with Silent J. I really hope you read negotiations better than you read TT.

BTW- I thought TT sucked and wasn't worth your Holiness? LOL! Got ya!”

“The Hockey Helmet Brigade at the AFL-CIO cuts it’s own throat and divides the union. They want to spend all their money on paying off politicians and a block of four unions (1/3) want to spend 50% of the money on new membership.
Man I love watching stupid people fight stupid people. It’s like a dumb on dumb crime.


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4769110”

“You are a boil on the ass of humanity, Nigal.”

“*Slaps Nigal up side the head with a wet trout*
Fuego dude, Fuego!


Yeah, I do agree with this being stupid, but what can you expect, they are Democrats. Democrats fight each other all the time.”

“You guys don't play the game, you don't make the rules.”

““*Slaps Nigal up side the head with a wet trout*
Fuego dude, Fuego!"

It IS fuego dude.”

““You guys don't play the game, you don't make the rules.”

Absolutely true. This does not mean I can't stand to the side pointing and laughing as the dumbasses shoot themselves in the foot and take joy at the weakening of a crooked gang.”

“Sure thing, go ahead and work that twisted mind of your's.

That's good for a hoot in the morning!”

“““*Slaps Nigal up side the head with a wet trout*
Fuego dude, Fuego!"

It IS fuego dude.”
Nigal
9:04:12 AM

DANG!
*Slaps Self up side the head repeatly with a wet trout*

I've had Fuego turned off a few days. Didn't realize I had switched it back on.
Sorry Nigal. Brain Fart, need more coffee!”

““Sure thing, go ahead and work that twisted mind of your's."

Now am I twisted? Or am I so right that I...just...blew...your mind?

Hoot on brother! :)”

“Labor shot itself in the foot a long time ago. Percentage of the workforce that is union peaked at about 53 percent to currently about 16 percent, according to CNN piece last night.”

“Nigal, you still in for August?”

“Abso-motherfing-lutely! Why would you ask me this on the union thread? Ya got BB coming on the trip now?”

“My numbers were off. Here's the correct figures from the CNN website:

When the AFL-CIO formed in 1955, about 35 percent of American workers belonged to unions. Today, unions represent about 8 percent of the private-sector workforce.”

“Where's our resident Union fanatic to reeducate us ignorant unwashed peeps?”

“No, just checking.”

“I suppose just about anything democratic gets neo-fascist panties in a bunch.”

“So what Union do you or your wife pay dues to, MarkO?”

“A.F.S.C.M.E for me now and I am a withdrawn(non-paying member) Teamster.

If I were to re-join The Teamsters I would not owe the initiation fee.”

“What is A.F.S.C.M.E?

Nevermind, goggled it:
American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFL-CIO),
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“Veddy goot commrad! Come home to the party soon!

























Sorry, I couldn't let your fascist comment go unchallanged MarkO. :)”

“American Federation of State County and Municipal Employees”

“So what, am I a member of the Soviet Union.........now?”

“So they're in decline, only represent a tiny proportion of workers, and yet they still seem to upset the righties?”

““So they're in decline, only represent a tiny proportion of workers,"


And yet they have a disproportionate amount of influence on our governmental leads? Does this not bother you? It should…”

“Y2 - They financially and otherwise support specific parties over others.

As an American citizen, when a government union does that, that should upset anybody.
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“Libbies aren't against Big Brother anymore like in the 60s.

They've become what they hate.”

“Nigal - I don't see them having much influence on the present administration ;o)”

“Crack jokes if it helps you justify your beliefs Y2.”