Look what STUPID thing the LIBERALS have done NOW!

“And if the source is a government that sheltered bin Laden, supported Hamas through the 90's and was responsible for the genocide in Darfur, more the better.”

“See what I mean? LOL!

I love it when ridiculous people suddenly get all serious.”

“I have a couple of questions:

1) Should we really capture Osama? My take on the situation is that he is sitting in Pakistan. And we haven't moved on him because we don't want an islamic fundamentalist nuclear state that might happen if Pakistan turned him over to us or we surreptitiously invaded. So, we monitor his every move and learn more about his people. And, every three months, Pakistan turns over a "high ranking official."

2) What kind of long-term legitimacy does the peace movement have? In my gut, I do believe that we have failed in Iraq. It doesn't seem that things will turn out well there. But what kind of long-term foreign policy can we have if we leave?”

“http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/news/state/13148386.htm

Nine years on the protest line at Alliant Techsystems

EDINA, Minn. - It's a Wednesday at 7 a.m., and like clockwork, 45 activists spill out of their cars, gather on the asphalt triangle in the middle of the forked Edina road, hoist their signs and start to sing.

...

Dubbed AlliantAction, the nuns, teachers, artists, silver-haired retirees and other pacifists come as if on a pilgrimage to accuse Alliant of making land mines and other arms that they claim harm civilians indiscriminately.

For Alliant, the protests pose a curious PR challenge, because the $3 billion defense company says it doesn't even make most of the things the protesters are concerned about. Alliant officials say the firm hasn't made a land mine fuze or a cluster bomb for at least a decade. And the company is working on alternative munitions that will sharply curtail or eliminate the threat of injuries among noncombatants, they say.

...”

“This kind of thing is why liberals have no political power, even with an unpopular president.

I think this is pretty much representative of the (lack of) intelligence of the anti-war crowd.”

“"Alliant...also makes missiles, NASA rocket boosters and more bullets than any other firm in the nation."”

“Bullets don't kill people.....leaders of Nations do.”

“"Alliant...also makes missiles, NASA rocket boosters and more bullets than any other firm in the nation." - le Subtil

it doesn't even make most of the things the protesters are concerned about”

““Bullets don't kill people.....leaders of Nations do.” - bearmagnet

Speaking of that ... whatever happened to all those deaths you said the Minutemen would cause during that month this summer? You didn't think I'd forget did you?

PS - Glad you're feeling better! I hope your 100% cured.
last edited: 11/30/05 10:29:29 AM”

“Mutt, using your logic, or lack there of, I can say because of Duke Cunningham all conservatives are crooks.

Pretty big brush ain't it?”

“Frmo most interviews I've seen one on one with protesters they normally have little knowledge of what they are protesting. All they want is to feel as if they are doing something and protesting is the easiest way. It's like a liberal national guard...one day (not even two) a month and ya get the warm fuzzies for serving.”

“Navi - ???

If anything Mutt was careful to say "representative". That does not mean "all".”

“It's like a liberal national guard...one day (not even two) a month and ya get the warm fuzzies for serving.”
Nigal
11:49:11 AM
11/30/05

Or liberal Minutmen.”

““Or liberal Minutmen.”

Yeah I could see that now. A bunch of patchouli stinkin’ hippies in Birkenstocks helping illegals to get IN to the country.
And helping them get signed up for welfare. LOL!”

“yawn”

“Late night?”

“booooooring, but just as boring as writing this brief.”

“?????

”

“"War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today."
--John F. Kennedy”

“That is absurd, and flat out wrong.

It just takes two warriors to make a war, no matter how many millions of nobel conscientious objectors you may have.”

“Sarge- It takes one warrior to make War.”

“Protesting & political dissent are the very core of democracy & the constitution. Our colonial forefathers were political protestors.

I applaud the peaceful nature of this one.”

“One defense contractor with inventory to make a war.”

“nimrod - I originally wrote that, but figured if nobody fought back, it wouldn't be a war, but a massacre.”

“or a Suicide Bomber”

“Yep! LOL! A suicide bomber with nobody fighting back is far from a war. Good point.”

“If anything Mutt was careful to say "representative". That does not mean "all".”
Sarge
I think this is pretty much representative of the (lack of) intelligence of the anti-war crowd.”
Mutt

Sarge, please read it again. It still says ALL to me. To paraphrase: Represents the whole crowd.”

“Navi - representative does not me "represents everything". It means characteristic of, like, or typical of. It can mean "representative of all", but doesn't necessarily.

For example, we elect representatives to congress to make decisions. They "represent" everybody (due to the vote), but that doesn't mean they "represent" everybody's opinion.”

“Since the definition could go either way, why don't you just ask Mutt which way he meant for that word to "represent", then you'll have your answer.”

“Well, take it however you want, The-Naviguesser. I rarely make statements in the absolute and I don't think I did above.

Seriously, I think there's merit to some of the more thought out anti-war arguments I've heard. But it seems to me most of the people on the street with protest signs are of the MarkO School of Cluelessness (e.g. "the war was started to make money!" and other tinfoil-hattery nonsense)
last edited: 11/30/05 2:41:11 PM”

“I think you said it better than I could, Sarge.”

“Yep! LOL! A suicide bomber with nobody fighting back is far from a war. Good point.”


No, the point is "it IS a war". Sarge you should know, you are a Suicide Troll and everyone is at war with you. The only difference is that you never die in your suicide bomb trolling missions.”

“nimrod - In that case there is more than one participant in the war, so your analogy falls apart.”

“represent v. 1. To stand for; symbolize. 2. To depict; portray. 3. To describe (a person or thing) as having a specified quality. 4. To serve as the delegate, sopkesperson, or agent for. 5. To serve as an example of.

I think both Mutt and Sarge can see how I was lead astray by the english language. 8^)”

“Navi - You still must be.

A flag "symbolizes" the country. Does that mean a flag is a country?

Your interpretation of language is unskilled apparently.

Yet, you're just arguing to argue aren't you, because Mutt did tell you what he meant.”

“Your interpretation of language is unskilled apparently.
Sarge

What part of depict, portray, describe, having a specified quality, serve as an example of, are you having a problem with.

A flag "symbolizes" the country. Does that mean a flag is a country?
No. Are you trying to be obtuse?”

“Navi - And on top of it all ... Mutt even said "pretty much representative". Apparently you are unfamiliar with both the terms "pretty much" and "representative".”

“A map "depicts" a country. Does that mean a map is a country?

A portrait portrays a person. Does that mean a portrait is a person?

A word describes a noun. Does that mean that word is a noun?

A plant has a specified quality, does that mean the plant is the specified quality?

A parent serves as an example of a child. Does that mean the parent is the child?

The misguided protest is representative of the lack of intelligence of the anti-war crowd. Does this mean the misguided protest is the anti-war crowd?

No?

Case closed.

Good night.”

“deads-rge represents an ass. does that mean deads-rge is an ass?”

“That was not nice crash bang. Make it personal why don't you?”

“Your interpretation of language is unskilled apparently.
Sarge
Make it personal why don't you?”
Sarge

I think you already did.

As to your examples, I'm no longer guessing if you're being obtuse or not.”

“It's obvious you're just trying to fight over semantics. It's obvious what Mutt meant, and he even later clarified it for you, yet you still keep at it. You're pretty much a real winner.”

“You're pretty much a real winner.”
Sarge
5:44:20 PM
11/30/05

guess that means you're a real LOSER =)
last edited: 11/30/05 5:57:40 PM”

“I think we are all losers on this thread.”

“LOL w/ Ewker.”

“LOL w/ Ewker.”

“LOL @ all your dumb asses”

“Ha Ha!
Made y'all look again!
LOL”

“wierner...”

“Oh I wish I were an Oscar Mayer Wiener
That is what I'd truly like to be
'cause if I were an Oscar Mayer Wiener
Every one would be in love with me.”