Despite new technology, Border Patrol ov erwhelmed

“"Really Q?"

Yes, really. Just because you experience it does not make "it" true for all, some, or another person; or every, some or most situations. Attempting to do so breaks the basic rules of civil discourse and threatens credibility.

"That doesn't leave a witness much of a leg to stand on in court."

Your support for your claim is invalid, because it commits another fallacy. Once a fallacy is used as support the premise, it reduces the whole argument invalid.

If you cannot see the error of your comments, then there is no need to go any further with you.”

“By the way, don't assume that all illegal aliens come from down south. I read a report that said over 100,000 Chinese are smuggled into the U.S. each year by the Triads, a type of Chinese mafia.”

“I went and ate at Abuloes tonight. I've changed my mind. Let the Mexicans in.”

“I'm not a fan of Mexican food, but Abuelo's has the best enchiladas I've had from a restaurant.”

“By, for and of ; the people or the government?”

“

Everett border-watch activists accused in deadly robbery

By BOB CHRISTIE
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

PHOENIX -- Two of three people arrested in a southern Arizona home invasion that left a little girl and her father dead had connections to a Washington state anti-illegal immigration group that conducts border watch activities in Arizona.

Jason Eugene Bush, 34, Shawna Forde, 41, and Albert Robert Gaxiola, 42, have been charged with two counts each of first-degree murder and other charges, said Sheriff Clarence Dupnik of Pima County, Ariz.

The trio are alleged to have dressed as law enforcement officers and forced their way into a home about 10 miles north of the Mexican border in rural Arivaca on May 30, wounding a woman and fatally shooting her husband and their 9-year-old daughter. Their motive was financial, Dupnik said.

"The husband who was murdered has a history of being involved in narcotics and there was an anticipation that there would be a considerable amount of cash at this location as well as the possibility of drugs," Dupnik said.

Forde is the leader of Minutemen American Defense, a small border watch group, and Bush goes by the nickname "Gunny" and is its operations director, according to the group's Web site. She is from Everett, Wash., has recently been living in Arizona and was once associated with the better known and larger Minuteman Civil Defense Corps.

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/407189_activist13.html”

“Who would have thought that de-humanizing segments of the population could have deadly consequences?”

“hang them in the town square.”

“They're drug pirates, big industry.
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“hahaha, bad guys rob from a drug dealer and you act like it has something to do with dehumanizing a population. What a piece of work”

“http://minutemenamericandefense.org/index.htm

scroll down a bit:

Subhuman Mexicans (God's Children?) Prey on Countrymen
Hannity's America -- Fox News -- June 22


Keep laughing it off.”

“Who drives all that demand for the Methican Cartel's precious imports? The drug war is crime on crime to the max, because americans still think throwing everyone in jail(GITMO is prime example) then all will be well for the right people. We can't blame ourselves for anything.”

“One more example of why the feds need to do their job and protect our borders. If they were then these groups wouldn't even be down there.

I still feel this is an orchestration by the feds to purposely ignore the flood of humanity illegally coming across the border. The problem will get so bad they will just say, "There's too many here to do anything about so we may as well join them as the North American Union.".”

“voilin, you don't think the Mexican drug cartels are subhuman beings? Or are you trying to suggest that one Mexican is just like another? Because even in the headline you quoted Hannity differentiated the drug dealers from their countrymen.”

“Nigal, that too many to send back is just enough to join the two countries -even Righty neo-cons will wind up with an EU flag with an AU.”

“Who would have thought that de-humanizing segments of the population could have deadly consequences? - violin

If you had ever called out Tilt for doing it, perhaps you'd have the moral high ground.”

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“Hyway, I wanted to mention some research I've had a friend do about the Repo houses I sold. She's the RE broker that sold many of them thru the years 2003-2007. She discovered five buyers who were from South America and were here preparing for the comprehensive immigration reform to become law. Also, she checked around and found many more reppos in the same situation-dependent on citizenship.
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“we'll never completely control the borders. it's impossible.

now, it is illegal to hire these border jumpers.. why isn't the gov enforcing those laws? no illegal job, no illegal immigration issues.”

“It's pretty bad when Mexico's border/immigration policies are stronger than ours.”

“The last raid in SoCal was carried out by the IRS, because of workers bogus SS#'s and no one was deported or taken into custody, threat of fines forced the co. to fire 254 suspected illegals( some had worked there for as much as 19 years).


Actually it wasn't a raid, the computer did the work.”

“The Minuteman Civil Defense Corps is no longer.

The Arizona-based border watch group that burst onto the national scene in 2005 sent an e-mail to its members this week announcing the corporation has dissolved.

The group's president, Carmen Mercer of Tombstone, said she and the board's two other directors voted to end the group's five-year run because they were worried her recent "call to action" would attract the wrong people to the border.

On March 16, Mercer sent an e-mail urging members to come to the border "locked, loaded and ready" and urged people to bring "long arms." She proposed changing the group's rules to allow members to track illegal immigrants and drug smugglers instead of just reporting the activity to the Border Patrol.

Mercer said she received a more feverish response than she expected and decided the group couldn't shoulder the responsibility and liability of what could occur, she said.

http://azstarnet.com/news/local/border/article_3b5411bd-ffe6-5d3c-98c8-951ec0fc40c4.html”

“Of Tombstone, was Carmen Mercer one of the two thousand dollar dancers that the RNC watched in North Hollywood?”

“cool”

“Check out the lefties get all excited when the borders open up to criminals.

LOL! typical”

“Check out the guy who gets all defensive when the vigilante lynch mob disbands.

LOL! typical”

“Actually at first they had a good idea, but like anything that leans to the right sooner or latter gets overtaken by the extreme right and their trade marks -GUNS and BIBLES.”

“'Check out the lefties get all excited when the borders open up to criminals.'

The criminals are the ones that hire them illegally and the Chamber of Commerce -enabler.”

“the minutmen may have had a good idea originally but they always had some cooks amongst them. besides, there are plenty of other crazies out there watching the border for us.”