Stove

“Hi.

I'm planning to hike AT from VA to GA in summer. I have found Coleman's moderate propane stove at home. I tried and it works with Coleman's tank (pretty high).

Are the order propane tanks (MSR, ...) compactible? If not, are there places around trail where I could buy this Coleman's particular tank? (I know that they have them in Walmart but I didn't see them in BassPro).

I'm actually making my mind whether to take this propane or go for little solid fuel stove.

Again... how is it with resuppling with solid tablets?

Thank you for any hints.

Sivek, FL”

“I don't know about the solid fuel, but the small MSR, etc type are easy enough to find.

Hello, Crash Bang!!!!!

Crash Bang did the whole trail last year.”

“Use an alcohol stove”

“Well, I wouldn't mind to try alcohol.

Actually I'm verry limited with money.
Is this cheapest way?

What would be average lasting time of one quart of alcohol in moderate conditions?

Thank you”

“You can make an alcohol stove VERY cheap - with a pepsi can or with cat food cans - there's lots of info on this board.

Fuel usage will vary depending on what your doing - if you only boil water to rehydrate food with a quart would last a long time.”

“Great.

I've found bunch of can stoves. Cat Stove looks pretty reasonable.

But I can't find any actual alcohol fuel on the web.

Any hint.”

“look in the paint department of WalMart or any hardware store for denatured alcohol aka shellac thinner

alternatively stop at the autoparts isle and pick up Heet gasline defreezer in the yellow bottle - fairly pure methanol - works fine for alcohol stoves.”

“You can get denatured alcohol at any hardware store in the paint section.”

“My stoves are inexpensive. Saves you the trouble of making them. When you look at what it would cost you out of pocket to make the same thing, you are better off buying one of mine... Also, you can check on eBay for the same thing, there are several retailers.

www.advancedmountainproducts.com

-pericous”

“Yesterday, I went to Walmart and I found 1 quart Denatured Alcohol for 5 $.

You were right.

Hey, percious, isn't your shield to fragile to hold pot? Is it good idea to store inside of pot while hiking?”

“$16 plus $5 shipping for an alcohol pepsi stove and windshield????
Holy crap, I need to start charging for them.

Sivek - Check out my website for many alcohol stove windshield/pot stands you can make for little money.
http://www.datasync.com/~wksmith/

Be sure to look at this design:
http://www.datasync.com/~wksmith/lizstove.html
last edited: 3/07/05 12:45:26 PM”

“alcohol is so cheap reliable and easy to use I won't be going back to cannisters any time soon. it's best just for boiling water. If you want more control, then look at the trangia mini, or 28 something or other it's called here. It takes a little longer to boil than cannisters, but really, does that couple of minutes matter when you've set up camp in the wilderness.
http://www.rei.com/product/4332909.htm
Not to undercut percious, whose can stove system is prolly ligher than this.”

“Not to undercut percious, whose can stove system is prolly ligher than this.”
y2
12:41:54 PM

Mine is, LOL.
http://www.datasync.com/~wksmith/lizstove.html”

“yeah yeah Stovey ;o). I have cat can stoves, but I prefer the Trangia, certainly for longer trips as it offers some way to control the flame, so you can actually cook on it too, rather than boiling water. Something which is useful when doing a long hike.”

“"Hey, percious, isn't your shield to fragile to hold pot? Is it good idea to store inside of pot while hiking?”

Nope, the stand is strong enough for > 2 liters of water. And it is convenient to put it in your pot while hiking, but the material is durable enough that you do not have to, and it breaks down into 2 parts.

-percious
www.percious.com”

“A simmer control can be easyly made for any 'pepsi' stove. I just never bother. I never simmer.”

““$16 plus $5 shipping for an alcohol pepsi stove and windshield????
Holy crap, I need to start charging for them.

If you are making just one stove, it is cheaper just to buy one. Here is a breakout of my costs:

Materials:
JB Weld........$5.00
Aluminum Tape..$5.00 (for the smallest roll)
Aluminum Duct..$2.00
Aluminum Screws$2.50 (100 ct)
Cans...........$0.10

Tools:
Metal Cutters...$19.00
Small Drill Bit.$15.00 (you have to buy a whole set)
Pin Vice........$10.00 (to hold drill bit)
Dremel or other.$50.00
Metal Crimpers..$24.00 (for priming cup)
Razor Blades....$ 2.00
Sharpie.........$ 1.00

So, just in materials, you are looking at $14.50. Of course if you make a few stoves you can more than make up the cost, but when you look at all the specialized tools I use to make the stoves the cost starts to add up.

To be honest, I make <$10 per hour making the stoves. If you count the time and energy I put into the website and eBay, I'm maybe making $5.00 per hour. I really just make the stuff because I think it is cool to be part of the hiking community, and I enjoy working with my hands.

So, StoveStomper, I encourage you to sell your wares. You and I have lots of competition, besides each other. Selling your own goods is very rewarding. When people send you emails back about how much they enjoy using the things you make by hand, it just makes you smile.

-percious”

““A simmer control can be easyly made for any 'pepsi' stove. I just never bother. I never simmer.”

True that. Get a pot cozy and stop being a slave to your food.

-percious”

“Ok.

Guys, I'm for alcohol (stove). ;-)

I want to play with that by myself.

I guess I'll try easy one for first...
Cat Stove.”

“Go for the pepsi can stove, basic design. It's bullet proof, and with a little practice, you can build them all day for next to nothing. Most people have the tools necessary just lying around the house.”

“No kidding they are easy. I build them at my desk at work over lunch. Biggest problem I have is not quite getting the lengths of the can sides and the inner wall right, and when I shove it together, one of the pieces splits. Oh, and you have to be careful when you cut the cans because the edges are really sharp!

Oh #&%!$! I just cut the hell out of myself! There's blood everywhere! Dammit! My favorite fleece. I think this is going to take more than a Bandaid. Crap. Now it's on the keyboard. I feel kinda light headed. Wow. Look at all the preeetttty coolllorrss.....

thump”

“Anybody tried this one?



Details http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=15973489&memberId=12500226”

“No but you can make a similar one yourself with a couple of soda cans. I'd do that before buying an alcohol stove.

I think Stovestomper has plans for how to build an alky stove on his site.”

“BTW-

Where are you in Florida? I'm in Jacksonville.”

“Kissimmee, FL”

“There are a few TTers down there.”

“any contact or web?”

“I just put five stoves in the trunk of the car. I'm headed to the trails in GSMNP. Number one of these is a soda can stove. In rated order(10 top) here's what I prefer for trail cooking:

• 10. Campfire
  
• 9. soda can stove
  
• 8. Sierra Zip Stove (burns wood, cones, etc.)
  
• 6. Sterno
  
• 5. Coleman 1-burner stove using white gas (rated for trail use, used mainly in developed campgrounds)
  
• 2. Esbit (only until I finish using the fuel tablets, they're too expensive)
  

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“Hey sivek Thanks for the data book ..
As for stoves make your self a soda can one .. I have made 2 so far.the 1st one I had to big of holes,,
So now I'm on my 2nd one and will try it out soon..
Later jb2638”

“Sivek Send me your address and Iwill send you a pepsi can stove and the works. MINE have won first place in Backpackers mag boil off contest in damacus! Yo bear
jerbear@backpacker.com. Also I can buy a gallon of denatured fuel at lowes for 10 bucks. Most outfitters along the AT will sell ya pints or qts reasonable. use a water bottle wit a pop top!”

“..or you can pay another guy on here $15-20 for the same thing! ;-)

jerbear makes great stoves!

YO BEAR!!!!”

“thanks stovie!”

“nowslimmer... still in good shape !! karate kid!”

“jerbear.. I'm planning to buy 1 qt of denature alcohol in wally world.. it costs
around 5 bucks.

I wouldn't mind getting that stove, but I have already order some. I'd like to make some too if I get a time to do it in my brother's house.”

“Making stoves would be very practical, then you can show the at women how to make there own. Good luck! You can also use a gas additive in the yellow bottle, burns a little hotter!”

“'HEET' gas line antifreeze in the yellow, NOT RED, bottle. About $0.75 in my Wal-Mart.”

“Hey Jerbear
What size holes do you use in your stove ???
Also are you going to trail days?
Later Jb2638”

“i made a stove out of the metal things around the bottom of tea candles only poblem is it doesn't hold enugh fuel, it get almost to the boil point then it runs out of fuel, i guess its back to the drawing board, i never had much luck with the pop can stoves, never boiled any water, i;m closer with this one though, guess i'll have to try again”

“percius,

did you send my stove already?

do Davenport, FL?”

“I ordered stove set from this guy =>

http://www.advancedmountainproducts.com/products/index.html

and I still haven't recieved anything and also he is not answering my emails.

Thanks to Jerbear I'll have some stove.
He is sending me one and I'll make some myself too.”

“i will git it in the mail!Yo bear!”

“:-)”

“Sivek,
How did you order your stove. I am trying to track it down. Everyone who has requested a stove has gotten on to date. Email me again at chris@percious.com if you are still having problems.”

“percious,

you sent stove on Friday. It came on Monday or Tuesday (bro's house).

Thank you”

“Jerbear,

brother told me, that I get another mini package from some red-neck in his house. I guess it's from you - your stove.

Thank you very much.

PS: Does it turn red when you use it? ;-)”

“Sivek,
Um, no it doesn't turn red. Aluminum is pretty heat-resistant, unlike steel which does turn red when heated with fuel like White Gas. Make sure you are only using Denatured Alcohol with it.

Enjoy!

-percious
www.percious.com”

“Heck I've seen my steel machinist's cloth pot stand glow red when heated by the flame from an alcohol stove. But the can never glows red at all.”

“the can never gets hotter than the boiling point of alcohol for obvious reasons - I know of one guy that uses a foil muffin cup to form a stove with no problem”