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I aint complaining, i'm bgonna get me a bike :)
Spirit Coyote
2:54:19 PM
8/17/05

Sorry, Trailkicker.

"No rocks at the Porches, kids."
reformed lurker
2:54:54 PM
8/17/05

I put premium in our Sienna when we're towing the pop-up camper. The manual says its recommended when towing/hauling full loads. Otherwise it says to put in regular - and you better bet I do!
techntrek
3:05:06 PM
8/17/05

If I ever get my old truck running I'll be buying premium gas. But the truck won't be a daily driver.

"Hot" engines don't do well with the low octane stuff.
humanpackmule
3:06:04 PM
8/17/05

$2.52 in New Jersey
(at least we get full service for that)

I left for Colorado 2 weeks ago when gas was about $2.27, and when I got back and drove by a gas station, I had to pull over and put my eyeballs back in their sockets...

...I can no longer afford to eat lunch and fill up my gas tank. No, not really, but it's getting dangerously close...
PhantomSoul
11:35:04 PM
8/17/05

Techntrek
I don't think it was for hauling bikes. It had a ball on it to attach a trailer.

Funny video techntrek
ChicagoMark
11:51:19 PM
8/17/05

Hit 1.13 Cdn per litre here yesterday ! That's about 3.55 US for a US gallon !
last edited: 8/18/05 10:11:32 AM
Hodgeman of BC
10:11:08 AM
8/18/05

I got tired of not being able to get our pull-start mower to start and bought a reel mower last year. The neighbors made fun of me. Heeheehee, no one's laughing this year.


(It is possible thatthey've grown tired of me and my mower and they're laughing at the guy who cut off his fingers instead though)
Sassafras
10:15:00 AM
8/18/05

I bet you get a workout at the same time. I used one of those things once, and it wasn't easy.
techntrek
10:50:40 AM
8/18/05

Holy Crap! I filled up at $2.55 yesterday. This morning it's $2.87.
Sassafras
1:16:08 PM
8/30/05

They said gas would go up after the hurricane and it looks like it did.
RichB
1:20:22 PM
8/30/05

Maybe it's a good thing I filled up last night at $2.71 before the prices went up today.
lumberzac
1:25:23 PM
8/30/05

Temporary gouging. Remember the 1-day spikes after 9/11? Many of those station owners got nailed later.
techntrek
1:30:24 PM
8/30/05

All of this should be a wake up call to begin moving to other energy sources as fast as possible.
RichB
1:32:44 PM
8/30/05

the station Sass referred to was 2.99 1hr ago. A muddy pothole strewn commute near detroit in the rain no less seems far more appealing than this. LOL.
birch
8:30:09 PM
8/30/05

prices havent gon up here yet. Its still 2.68 a gal
Spirit Coyote
8:58:52 PM
8/30/05

It was $2.55 yesterday and $2.66 today. The clerk said it would be going up again tomorrow. Another person filling up said it was $2.79, I believe, in the Twin Cities.
lizs
9:10:36 PM
8/30/05

Bush & Cheney are making a bundle.
catskhiker
9:13:39 PM
8/30/05

this hurricane is Cheney's fault! jk

still, I highly doubt there will be any progress made for alterative fuel sources as long as Bush is president. He talks, but he doesn't walk.
EarthNsky
9:21:10 PM
8/30/05

I went to 2 gas stations tonight that we out of gas! It was amazing at the price differences. Some gas stations were 2.51 and there were others 1 mile up the street at 2.79. Of course the ones with lower prices were the ones that were packed.
Mrs Opie
9:38:13 PM
8/30/05

There has been some talk about rationing on the news. I remember in the 70's during the embargo some gas stations would only sell you $2 worth of gas. That wouldn't buy much now.
RichB
9:48:49 PM
8/30/05

we = were

I need to read my messages when the editing is available :)
Mrs Opie
9:57:38 PM
8/30/05

Come on Hydrogen cars. GM is making thm and there are currently 8 in DC. They run on Hydrogen which mixes with Oxygen and emits only water vapor.
Ox
10:04:58 PM
8/30/05

Today, gas shot up 25 cents here. You cannot find it cheaper than $2.99
Wounded Knee
10:08:10 PM
8/30/05

WK...come to our neighboorhood...at 8 it was still 2.68.
Spirit Coyote
10:12:03 PM
8/30/05

From what I was reading you can expect to see more hybrids that get up to 80 mpg. Toyota is considering adding a plug in jack and extra batteries to extend the mpg on the Prius to over 100mpg. Hydrogen will still be years away until they can get some bugs out and refueling stations on line.
RichB
10:14:59 PM
8/30/05

price dropped a little bit in my area

Too bad for the environment.
Sarge
10:21:11 PM
8/30/05

Luckily I live and work very close to the US border and fill up there - in Chateaugay, NY - US2,71$ a US gallon.
Gremlin
10:15:19 AM
8/31/05

$3.09
$3.09 at most stations I saw this morning.
Dub
10:17:58 AM
8/31/05

I went by a gas station on my way to a doctor appointment and the price was $2.69. Two hours later at the same station the price went up to $2.79.
RichB
10:29:15 AM
8/31/05

Yesterday gas was $2.79 everywhere, and the day before that it was $2.52, now it's $3.09--I hate Ohio.
Dub
10:45:53 AM
8/31/05

That is gouging for ya Dub.
Wounded Knee
10:51:06 AM
8/31/05

if gas is over $3 a gal, we will not beable to go to virginia in october...there is no way i'm spending $160 on gas to go that far. I'll donate that $160 instead.
Spirit Coyote
10:56:59 AM
8/31/05

As gasoline continues to increase in price people will have to change their habits unless they want to spend all their money on gasoline. I'm wondering how long the sales of big SUV's are going hold up under this. GM and the others building them are going to see sales drop dramtically at some point.
RichB
11:05:43 AM
8/31/05

timecline is now thriftyhiker
in indianapolis

yesterday: $2.69
Today: $2.99

that's a $0.30 increase just overnight!!
thriftyhiker
11:10:07 AM
8/31/05

Gas is up to $3.15/gal for 87 octane here! It took two days to go from $2.55 to $3.15.
Sassafras
11:21:54 AM
8/31/05

Quit your whining - everything's going to be okay:

http://www.forbes.com/business/feeds/afx/2005/08/30/afx2195813.html

08.30.2005, 05:20 AM

SYDNEY (AFX) - Oil prices are set to crash from this week's record highs as a speculative market bubble bursts with an impact that could make the hi-tech bust of 2000 'look like a picnic', business publisher Steve Forbes has predicted.

Forbes said the high oil prices currently dampening the US economy, which peaked at more than 70 usd a barrel yesterday as Hurricane Katrina headed for the US Gulf Coast, would fall to 30-35 usd a barrel within a year.

'I'll make a bold prediction... in 12 months, you're going to see oil down to 35-40 usd a barrel,' he said, according to Agence France-Presse.

'It's a huge bubble, I don't know what's going to pop it but eventually it will pop -- you cannot go against supply and demand, you cannot go against the fundamentals forever.'

The billionaire magazine publisher's comments came as the price of crude eased following US government comments that it could release some of its Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR).

The SPR, a 700-mln-barrel stockpile set aside for emergency use, could be used to counter oil shortages caused by Hurricane Katrina's devastation of the Gulf oil industry, which accounts for about a quarter of US output.

Forbes, who unsuccessfully sought Republican nomination in the 1996 and 2000 US Presidential elections, said the US government's constant topping up of the SPR had helped drive up oil prices.

'The speculators know now that no matter what happens to the price of oil, Uncle Sam is there buying almost every day,' he said.

'Stop the buying and in fact throw some of that oil on the open market, boy that would throw it in turmoil and send the price down.'

He said factors such as inflation and increased demand for oil from China and India only accounted for a small part of the price hike from 25-30 usd a barrel three years ago.

'The rest of it is sheer bubble speculation,' Forbes said.

'I'll be blunt, there's hardly a hedge fund in North America that hasn't speculated on oil futures.'

Forbes said the higher the oil price rose, the harder it would eventually crash, creating more pain for hedge fund managers and their clients.

'I don't think it's going to go to 100 usd but if it does the crash is going to be even more spectacular,' he said. 'It will make the hi-tech bubble look like a picnic -- this thing is not going to last.'
Mutt
11:25:09 AM
8/31/05

My wife called me in a near panic and said for me to run out and get gas NOW because it's up to $3.09 where she is.

It's like refer maddness only with gas.
Nigal
11:27:37 AM
8/31/05

my wife just called in a near panic and said she HAD gas NOW!!!
thriftyhiker
11:37:31 AM
8/31/05

I don't think she'd appreciate you telling everyone that thriftyhiker. That's private.
Sarge
11:38:54 AM
8/31/05

hahahaha! try beano!
Spirit Coyote
11:41:09 AM
8/31/05

you'd be paniced too if this happened the last time you had gas

thriftyhiker
11:42:21 AM
8/31/05

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Consumers can expect retail gas prices to rise to $4 a gallon soon but whether they stay there depends on the long-term damage to oil facilities from Hurricane Katrina, oil and gas analysts said Wednesday.

"There's no question gas will hit $4 a gallon," Ben Brockwell, director of pricing at the Oil Price Information Service, said. "The question is how high will it go and how long will it last?"

OPIS tracks wholesale and retail oil prices and provides pricing information for AAA's daily reports on fuel prices.

Brockwell said with gasoline prices now exceeding $3 a gallon before even reaching the wholesale level, it "doesn't take a genius" to expect retail prices to hit $4 a gallon soon.

"Consumers haven't seen the worst of it yet," Brockwell said.

He expects consumers in the Southeast and Northeast to be pinched first, following the impact of Hurricane Katrina on the Gulf Coast region.

Katrina pressures gas supplies
Katrina forced operators to close more than a tenth of the country's refining capacity and a quarter of its oil production, which sent gasoline prices surging.

Two major pipelines that supply gasoline to key terminals and distribution centers along the Eastern U.S. were shut down due to power outages caused by the storm. (Video of Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman discussing U.S. plans to tap strategic oil reserve to help refiners -- 4:16. Click here to watch).

Colonial Pipeline said it hopes to be back in partial operation soon, while the date of Plantation Pipeline's restart is not clear. Each day the pipelines are closed, supplies get backlogged and distribution centers must rely on reserves.

"With this kind of hiccup in refinery capacity, in stretched markets like California, you could see over $4 a gallon in gas," Evan Smith, an analyst at U.S. Global Investors, told CNN/Money.

While it's still too early to fully assess the damage caused by Katrina, efforts to build up inventories of crude oil, natural gas and other products like gasoline will be set back by the storm, according to Nariman Behravesh, chief economist at Global Insight.

In a research note, Behravesh laid out a worst-case scenario that puts average prices for regular unleaded gasoline at about $3.50 a gallon for the next four to six months.

"The impact on consumer spending in such a scenario would be very dramatic, cutting the growth rate by as much as 3 percent and pushing real GDP growth in the fourth quarter closer to zero," he wrote.

In a best-case scenario, he forecast retail pump prices to peak at $3 a gallon for a couple of months, but then fall back to around $2.50 by year-end.

The nationwide average price for a gallon of regular unleaded hit a fresh high of $2.619 Wednesday, according to AAA, the largest U.S. motorist organization, formerly known as the American Automobile Association.

Average gasoline prices have gained 40 percent in the last year.

Prices for crude oil are also up sharply and are currently hovering near record highs just under $70 a barrel.


http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/31/news/gas_prices/index.htm?cnn=yes
hubcap
1:03:18 PM
8/31/05

I'm loving this. Gas is high, the oil companies have more gold than King Midas and they keep getting richer. Bush gave them tax cuts in his Energy Bill (like they needed it) but he has no serious plans for alternative energy, the proxy war for Israel goes from bad to worse as each day passes, global warming is here in the form of Cat 5 hurricanes, looter are wading through sewage in NO to steal trinkets and hooded sweatshirts, the fiat currency is on it's way to toilet paper status. Ahhhhhhhh!!

Now the Washington pols are worried sick because the American sheeple are finally awakenings from their stupor. They know that we know they have been f*cking us for so long it's not funny. Payday Someday indeed!!!!
last edited: 8/31/05 3:41:07 PM
solitary hiker
3:40:16 PM
8/31/05

I guess I'm the only one who doesn't worry about a short term $.50-1 gallon price increase. It's these stupid rednecks around here in the panic running out and filling their cars up causing a huge spike in short term demand that just drives the prices even further and causes gas stations to run out before the refueling trucks arrive causing even more panic. Stupid idiots.
DeoreDX
3:50:40 PM
8/31/05

I have this gas station called Flying J in my state and truckers and big RVs seem to go there and got us interested years ago. Come to find, they charge lower prices. I don't know why, but they do. It's not too far from home so we fill up there.
lipstick hiker
3:51:19 PM
8/31/05

yup lipstick, got the same thing here...always the cheapest in town(of course i'd know where the cheapest is)...another one is Mr. Fuel
thriftyhiker
3:54:50 PM
8/31/05

They probably buy wholesale gas and don't add anything to it.

The only real difference in gasoline is what the gas company puts into it at their redistribution facilities. They all buy the same wholesale gasoline out of the pipeline, truck it to a redistribution point, add their special mix of additives, and then truck it to their stations. So you're probably buying just plain gas, which is just fine.

Where I draw the line is buying gas at non-branded convenience stores. I have always had trouble with gas bought from places like that.
bitpusher
3:56:16 PM
8/31/05

4 dollers a gallon soon -
fingerlakeshiker
3:58:47 PM
8/31/05

you seem to know a lot about gas bit(hee hee)

no but seriously, can you explain this one...there's station by my house that almost always sells their premium for less than their regular?
thriftyhiker
3:59:05 PM
8/31/05

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