Pack Wieght

“I count my water in my pack weight-otherwise if you don't it is your base weight....”

“I think all this weight stuff if a big pile in the trail. I count it all, I my knees have to lift it it counts, no matter if it in the pack or on me. The muscles and the blisters don't care where those lbs are that they are humpin' up hill. In all truth they haul 250-260 lbs around for a 10 spring trip, by fall I lose 15 and those knees know it.”