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“Finally, people of God are saying NO to soddomite propaganda!!! The Truth will out!
Group to Counter Students' Anti-Gay Bias Day
Tuesday, April 12, 2005
NEW YORK — Irked by the success of the nationwide Day of Silence (search), which seeks to combat anti-gay bias in schools, conservative activists are launching a counter-event this week called the Day of Truth (search) aimed at mobilizing students who believe homosexuality is sinful.
Participating students are being offered T-shirts with the slogan "The Truth Cannot be Silenced" and cards to pass out to classmates Thursday — the day following the Day of Silence — declaring their unwillingness to condone "detrimental personal and social behavior."
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“If God wanted to fight back against something, one would think he could come up with something better than this.”
“Actually, grassroots efforts like this are probably the most effective manner to counter soddomite lies.
Gays have had their day in the sun, but their bigotry against people of God will be their undoing.”
“I always thought that God had a handle on judging people. Why should I mess with it, it's His job to sort out the mess we make of our lives. I think my job is to love my neighbors, no matter what color, creed or sexual preferences they have. No sin is greater than any other.
I can't imagine that handing out cards and wearing tee shirts is going to change someone's sexual preference/ orrientation. What it might (probably will) do is tick someone off and turn them away from Christianity and Christians.”
“Sassafras, it goes beyond simple personal judgement. The soddomites want to destroy marriage. They want to recruit young people into homosexuality. They want to legitimize a disgusting, sinful act.
This is everybody's business. If there's any backlash, it's going to be against the soddomites. There's way more Christians than there are gays.”
“Well said Sass.”
“preach on, sista Sassy!”
“And the brainwashed soddomite supporters chime in...”
“Oryx - go drink a beer and chill.”
Bad math buddy.
There's way more Christians than there are gays.”
First. The popular estimate of the gay population in the US is 1 in 10.
Now. In the US you might also argue that 1 in 3 is a Christian.
However. On the planet, Christians are a clear minority. Moreover, moron, not all christians are narrow minded bigoted idiots like you. Some people believe in and follow Christ without being consumed by hatred.
So of your "majority" I would say it is a minority in the US that are narrow minded bigots. So of the 1 in 3 people that may be Christians, it is probably only 1 in 10 that or fewer that are full of hatred like you.
So. On the globe, gay hating christian are a statistical blip, vastly outnumbered by the wolrd's gay population.
And, I would futher argue that gay hating christians in the US probably number less than gays, in spite of the fact that the number of Christians in the US is greater than the number of gays.
It never fails to amaze me how folks who purport to be a follower of someone who preached love can be so full of hatred. i can't imagine anyone straying farther from the true path of Christ than oryx and his ilk.
Enjoy hell my friend, because that is where you are surely headed.”
“What would you like to have done with all the homosexuals in the world O?”
“Good job, Mutt.”
“They want to recruit young people into homosexuality.
According to my homosexual friends you don't recruit anyone. You're either gay or you're not.
The soddomites want to destroy marriage.
Please tell me how these two, any two, people getting married takes anything away from "your" four divorces. ”
“It always fascinates me. There is a list of 10 Commandments that most Christians claim to think are really important. Sort of a moral top 10 list. There ain't nothing there about homnosexuality.
Now, the Sabbath made the top 10 list. There are plenty of businesses open on the Sabbath. These busineeses lure people into violating the Sabbath. The newspaper is full of dirct advertisments which urge people to violate the Sabbath - and entice people to come shop on Sunday. Where is the outrage? Where are the protests and the boycotts.
But people say homosexuality is OK, don't urge people to do it and there is a huge mobilizations.
I've seen so called-Christians with signs saying "God hates Fags" and more with signs indicating he hates "sodomy," but none about Sabbath violators.
One might even wonder if this really is about God and the Bible.”
“ped - you bring up my one big question about how most folks view homosexuals. The Big 10, as you say has a thing on there about adultery. Adultery is defined as relations between unmarried people. How is hetero adultery any different than homo adultery? Now, biblically, homo adultery will always remain adultery but I don't get how shagging with a guy will get you in any worse hot water than shagging with a woman who is not your wife.
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“Adultery is defined as relations between unmarried people.
did you mean to say married people?”
“Nope, 2 folks that aren't married. Two teenagers knockin' boots in the backseat of daddy's car are committing adultery.”
“Oryx, you have been soundly spanked.”
“First. The popular estimate of the gay population in the US is 1 in 10.
Bullshi7!!! This absurd assertion that 1/10th of the human population is Homosexual owes its genesis to the corrupt pseudo-science of Marxist Alfred Kinsey.
Kinsey, whose been termed the "patriarch of perversion" and a "scientific quack," is always cited as the authority on the 10% figure.
What is never said, however, is that Kinsey himself never cited this number. What he did say -- in his self-serving screed, Sexual Behavior in the Human Male (1948) -- is that ten percent of adult white males had been predominantly homosexual for a period of three years.
And how had he stacked the deck to arrive at that figure? By selecting as high as 25% of his survey-subjects from the prison population, even though he'd been warned that inmates are notorious for engaging in homosexual behavior at a rate much higher than the general male population.
In addition, Kinsey tilted his findings even more, according to one of his long-time assistants, Wardell Pomeroy, by giving inmates rewards -- candy, soft drinks, tobacco -- when they "admitted" to homosexual behavior, and withholding rewards when they balked at providing the answers he desired. But he went even further, conducting some of his survey in homosexual bars and rooming houses, guaranteeing a disproportionate representation of perverts.
Numerous studies over the past three decades have repeatedly shown that homosexuals probably account for less than (2%) of the total adult population. the following are a few of the significant surveys and their results:
1970. In a nationwide random survey of 3,018 adults by Klassen, Williams and Levitt, 2.4% of males and 1.8% of females reported having homosexual relations "fairly often."
1984. In a study of 2,787 13 to 18 year-old inner city youths at sex clinics in ten cities by Stiffman and Earls, 3.1% of males and 0.5% of females reported engaging in some homosexual activity over the past year.
1988. In a study of 1,481 U.S. adults by Michael, Laumann, Gagnon and Smith reported that 2.7% of males and 0.1% of females had engaged in homosexual acts in the previous year.
1989. In a study of U.S. adults conducted by the University of Chicago's National Opinion Research Center (NORC), only 1.2% reported any homosexual partners in the past year.
1991. In the federal government's National Household Sero-prevalence Survey, which reached 119,347 adults -- the largest sampling ever -- only 3% of males reported engaging in homosexual activity ever.
1994. In a nationwide study of 3,432 adults by NORC, 2.8% of men and 1.4% of women identified themselves as homosexual or bisexual.”
“dayhiker, I disagree with you on that.
a·dul·ter·y ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-dlt-r, -tr)
n. pl. a·dul·ter·ies
Voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a partner other than the lawful spouse.
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“Another reason to be concerned is the high rates of soddomite child molesters. In 1987, Dr. Stephen Rubin of Whitman College conducted a ten-state study of sex abuse cases involving school teachers. He studied 199 cases. Of those, 122 male teachers had molested girls, while 14 female teachers had molested boys. He also discovered that 59 homosexual male teachers had molested boys and four female homosexual teachers had molested girls. In other words, 32 percent of those child molestation cases involved homosexuals. Nearly a third of these cases come from only 1-2% of the population.”
“I ran into a homosexuality recruiter just the other day. It was hard to turn down the offer of a free outrageous wardrobe and spa treatment but I did.
Seriously - I agree with Sassafras. As a Christian, I really wish bigoted people would stop turning people away from Christ. I understand that there is no faster ticket to hell.”
“The fact is, sodomites and their allies present a clear and present danger to the nation. They seek to silence all churches that oppose them. You don't have to take my word for it, Here are some of the milder threats from the sodomite activists:
If [AIDS] "research money is not forthcoming at a certain level by a certain date, all gay males should give blood. Whatever action is required to get national attention is valid. If that includes blood terrorism, so be it," threatened activist Robert Schwab.
The most radical political sodomites openly promote bio-terrorism. "I think the time for violence has now arrived," declared Larry Kramer: "I don't personally think I'm the guy with the guts to do it, but I'd like to see an AIDS terrorist army, like the Irgun which led to the state of Israel." He said, "I think we should blow up Gracie Mansion. One of my favorite notions is that we make fake blood and throw bottles of it in public places, and shout, "This is AIDS blood!" Let them think that it is. We have to scare people. We have to make their lives uncomfortable. I think we should be tying up whole cities. We should cripple this country. We should throw bombs. We should set fires. We should stop traffic. We should surround the White House."
An NEA funded publication contained this: "[Cardinal John O'Connor] is the world's most active liar about condoms and safer-sex. This fat cannibal from that house of walking swastikas up on Fifth Avenue should lose his church tax-exempt status and pay retroactive taxes from the last couple centuries. Shut down our clinics and we will shut down your church."
One activist at a Charlottesville School Board meeting wore a T-Shirt that read: "So Many Right-Wing Christians – So Few Lions." An implied threat supporting genocide."
A website called Dyxploitation said: "Kill everyone who doesn't like lesbians. Don't waste time trying to change people's minds. Just kill them!" Come the revolution none of this Dr Laura ---- is going to go anymore. She'll be dead. None of this religious ---- is going to go anymore. All churches will be converted into dazzling nightclubs, or abortion clinics - or a combination nightclub abortion clinic! Ex-gays won't whine and bother us with their sad mailings. They'll be put out of their misery."”
“That's the dictionary def. I'm pretty sure the biblical one is that you can only knock boots with your spouse. The first person you have sex with is considered your spouse. Well, now that I added that part I think you probably are technically correct.”
“haha!! Violin, you rock.”
“V - too funny about the recruiter. When I was in HS the Navy recruiter wouldn't leave me along about joining the Navy. Did he have ulterior motives?”
“Did the navy recruiter hang around with a construction worker and an Indian?
In that case - probably yes.”
“Show tunes always get to me.”
“Oryx, the devil has his fingers in you and you don't even know it. Follow Christ's example and follow his teachings. You aren't.”
“As usual, the liberals refuse to acknowledge that many gays are child molestors and/or militant terrorist types.”
“O - you seem intent on sucking GW's. I guess you don't count that as soddomy.
You really are a nasty small-minded boy.
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“Oryx - as usual, the devil screws you over and you refuse to acknoledge it.
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“I'll bite. If gays are child molestors and child molestors are gays and if abuse begets abuse then how do you stop the cycle?
V - he did hang around with a guy in leathers that semi looked like a biker.”
“I'm actually suprised at just how positive this hateful thread has become. I think lee's comments about the haters being in the minority is justifited.”
“like i pointed out the last time someone started a "stop the gays" thread, most child molesters are men. do you also think it's a crime against nature and god to be a man?”
“It's not hate to say homosexuality is a sin, because it is. It's not hate to say that homos are greatly over-represented in the child-molester population, because they are. It's not hate to say that many homo leaders are terrorists, because they are. It's not hate to say that homos are more abusive, because the stats show they engage in more domestic violence. It's not hate to say that homos are trying to tear down marriage, because they are trying to "redefine" it.”
“The only hate comes from the lefty-liberals who try to shout down someone pointing out the facts of the homosexual scourge in our society.”
“As usual, the liberals refuse to acknowledge that many gays are child molestors and/or militant terrorist types.
Oryx . ..
There are vastly more "hetero" child molesters, and vastly more hetero militant" terrorists.
This is just stupidity.
Sure. There are pedofiles who are mental ill individuals who prey on children, of the same sex and of different sexes.
Are you trying to suggest that because one is gay, that means that one is automatically suspect as a pedofile?
If so, that puts you well beyond the pale of current thought . . .well beyond most public, conservative christian talk. I say public, because I am sure that in private the conservative christians unload on all the groups they hate: poor blacks, hispanics, asians, jews, gays etc.
As for being militant. Sure. There are lots of fringe group of any cause that are militant.
Whose your hero that was just locked up for 30 years, Hale???? The white supremicist.
So what? I doubt you have statistcs to support that arguement, that as a percent of the population, there is a higher proportion radical militant gays than in other groups. Lets face it . . .most of them are interior designers anyway, right?
You are a stupid child Oryx.”
“After reading the majority of post on this issue I'm amazed how many misconceptions there are about the commandments and law. The 10 commandments are not Christian but a Jewish summary of the many laws given to the Israelites. The most direct purpose of Jesus' life was to completely fulfill both the Law (first 5 books in the OT) and the Prophets (most other OT books). In no fashion or form did Christ destroy the OT, however, many old laws of the OT became obsolete or set aside (Hebrews. 7:18; 8:13). Example, if being a child of God is available for all nationalities other than tradition why would continue circumcision; if Christ was the perfect sacrifice for all why continue animal sacrifices? In Matt 22 a Pharisee asked Jesus what was the most important law and his response was to love your God with all your heart and love your neighbors which are considered the only laws of Christianity.
Also, I certainly don't think there is any hate involved in the day of truth supporters. Just because Christians don't condone/support something doesn't mean they hate. Hate the sin not the sinner. Here's the message on their t-shirts.
I am speaking the Truth to break the silence. I believe in equal treatment for all, and not special rights for a few. I believe in loving my neighbor, but part of that love means not condoning detrimental personal and social behavior. I believe that by boldly proclaiming the Truth, hurts will be halted, hearts will be healed, and lives will be saved.
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“Lee, 33% of child molestors are homos. Homos make up 1-2% of the population. That there are many more hetero molestors is irrelevant next to this outrageous and sickening fact.
I'll try to find my stats on the militants for you.
And how about STD's? Any sodomite lover want to argue about that? I doubt it! LOL!”
“Also, I certainly don't think there is any hate involved in the day of truth supporters. Just because Christians don't condone/support something doesn't mean they hate. Hate the sin not the sinner.
“I'll agree with that as well.
What is a day of truth supporter?
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“Easy there, orxy. Your over-obsession with gay child molestors is starting to become disturbing.”
“Your over-obsession with gay child molestors is starting to become disturbing.
If you're not concerned, then you need psychiatric help. This is a scourge in our society, and homos are at the forefront.”
“Well go do something about it instead of sitting at your keyboard and ranting on a backpacking site.”
“Oryx, I will pray for you.”
“What is a day of truth supporter?
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Its the official name by the organization who is coordinating the Students'Anti-Gay Bias Day.”
What's the truth?
“"I am speaking the Truth to break the silence"
What's the truth?
Surely neither of you is dumb enough to expect rationale individuals to accept the word of bible thumpers as the truth?
God is a fiction.
The bible is a mildly historical fiction.
The rules the bible lays out contain some nice fundemental guideposts, common to most religions and cultures (do unto others for example), but otherwise are elaborate works of fiction meant to promote and support the fiction of the religion.
Shouldn't the T-shirt read
"We want you to believe OUR lies, not their lies, because we believe OUR lies are better than their lies"??????
If all religion is based on a false belief in a god, than how can anyone one religion or religious perspective claim to have or be the "truth"?
its a lie.”
“Ah, Lee is a God hater - that makes sense. Homo too?”
“Lee, obviously that's not my belief or experience. LOL, I guess I'm an irrational bible thumper. Now that would be a cool t-shirt.
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