Life in Violin's New Jersey

“Great. Thanks for the heads up. I'll let you know if I start mutating.”

“Whata ya mean start?”

“Big whoop..New Jersey is the Toxic Waste Dump Capital of the US.

Granted New York has percapita more attorneys than any other state but that is just because New Jersey had first choice.”

“Rocket launcher found in Jersey City, CBS reports
by CBS
Friday July 20, 2007, 12:40 PM

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2007/07/rocket_launcher_found_in_jerse.html

"A Jersey City woman made a shocking discovery on her lawn this morning when she noticed a military rocket launcher lying in the grass, CBS reported on its Web site."”

“Caution! Hot Lawsuit Filed Against N.J. Starbucks

(AP) PATERSON, N.J. Starbucks is getting sued by a Wayne man who claims he was scalded because the lid on his hot tea came off.

In a lawsuit filed in Paterson, Antonio Couso alleges the lid was not on properly and the tea was too hot.

The 45-year-old suffered third-degree burns to his hand in the March 2006 incident.

Couso accuses Starbucks of "negligently and carelessly" selling unsafe tea.

A Starbucks spokeswoman tells The Record of Bergen County the company is investigating and does not comment on litigation.

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_208092052.html”

“I bet this a-hole would complain if the tea was too cold.”

“I wonder if he drinks tea at home with a lid on it. If not, his floor must be a mess.”

“Libby alert, he's drinking tea a coffee shop, can't be a ningwut.”

“A 3rd degree burn?
Seriously?”

“Would a CBS affiliate lie or someone that files a lawsuit, HPM? ;-)
last edited: 7/27/07 12:35:19 PM”

“Depends on the subject/person I suppose.

I don't trust that the lids are on correctly when I go through the drive through. I've had many a spill due to that. Coke is an irritation, something hot enough to cause a 3rd degree burn is something else entirely and requires some sort of recompense.

I'd like to see the emergency room report on that.
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“Don't use the balm!


last edited: 7/27/07 12:40:46 PM”

“I find it very hard to believe that he got 3rd degree burns. I knocked a pot full of boiling water on myself once. I got a lot of 1st degree burns; some 2nd degree burns but no 3rd degree.”

“Yeah, 3rd degree's charred skin---2nd degree's blisters. Hard to do w/ tea--unless it was flaming tea!”

“Yeah, the all-mighty dollar.

Our god signs his name with a capital G
NIN”

“What most people don't realize is that hot coffee and tea (typically served around 180F) can cause severe third degree burns after as little as a few seconds' contact -- especially in a situation where you can't immediately shake it off -- like, say, being belted into your car seat by a seatbelt while driving down the freeway.

Does that mean there's something wrong with the coffee or tea? Absolutely not. It's served that way for a reason; no one wants their drink to get too cold before they finish it.

But, how many times have we bought a hot cup of coffee, gotten in the car with it and drove right off? Something you might want to think about.

I wouldn't be surprised if this resulted in warnings being printed on the cups about drinking hot beverages in the car without letting them cool some first -- since too many of us are either too dumb or too indifferent to realize this.
last edited: 7/27/07 12:53:56 PM”

“Same here LZ.

Remember a few years back there was an elderly lady that sued Micky Ds over a coffee burn? She also claimed to have 3rd degree burns.

It make me wonder if my definition of 3rd degree is accurate.”

“Hmmm...nothing about charred skin being a requirement here
http://www.burnsurvivor.com/burn_types_third.html
last edited: 7/27/07 12:56:17 PM”

“I wouldn't be surprised if this resulted in warnings being printed on the cups about drinking hot beverages in the car without letting them cool some first -- since too many of us are either too dumb or too indifferent to realize this.
last edited: 7/27/07 1:53:56 PM”
PhantomSoul
1:51:54 PM
7/27/07

Take a look at a coffee cup some time. They have a warning on them that says "contents may be hot."”

“HPM--well it's says "white or charred skin". Peeling would be expected nonetheless. I got the charred part from the old Boy Scout Handbook--I think they were trying to scare us!”

“Evidently, a warning about "contents being hot" is not enough. Take just this thread -- how many people above this post knew that you can get third degree burns with enough exposure to any food substance that is hotter than 150F?

SNIP

...A scientist testifying for McDonald's argued that any coffee hotter than 130 degrees could produce third-degree burns, so it didn't matter whether Mc Donald's coffee was hotter. But a doctor testifying on behalf of Mrs. Liebeck argued that lowering the serving temperature to about 160 degrees could make a big difference, because it takes less than three seconds to produce a third-degree burn at 190 degrees, about 12 to 15 seconds at 180 degrees and about 20 seconds at 160 degrees...

SNIP

http://www.vanosteen.com/mcdonalds-coffee-lawsuit.htm
last edited: 7/27/07 1:09:32 PM”

“Early in my Navy medical training, 3rd degree was described as charred skin/flesh, 2nd degree was blisters, etc.

Now that I'm working at a coffee shop, I can testify how difficult it can be to get those lids on properly. Sometimes you just get a bad batch of lids.

It seems to me that in the McDonalds case, the lady suffered 3rd degree burns, in part to her vagina. McDonalds had been cautioned as the result of similar cases to turn down the temperature. I understand they did not do so because with hotter coffe there were less refills. The idea behind the award was to make McD's "cost of doing business" a little more costly.”

“http://www.cdc.gov/nasd/docs/d000701-d000800/d000702/d000702.html

Water heaters leave the factory set at 140 to 150 degrees Fahrenheit. It takes 2 seconds for a child to receive third degree burns from water at 150 degrees. It takes 5 seconds if the water is at 140 degrees, and 30 seconds at 130 degrees.

I agree with the charred for 3rd degree..but it is normally referred to a FULL THICKNESS burns.

First Degree is superficial burns (the epidermis is effected

Second Degree is Partial Thickness (the damage has extended into the Dermis (second layer)

Third Degree is Full Thickness (both the dermis and epidermis are destroyed)

So technically if you consider COOKING the flesh..>I guess you could get death of the Epidermis and Dermis from a Water related burn”

“Let's all go out for coffee!

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“That's an interesting perspective -- less refills, eh? Not sure about that.

When we make coffee at home, most coffee makers heat it to about 130F to 140F. We pour ourselves smaller cups that we often drink much faster.

A restaurant like McDonalds (or Starbucks, for that matter) makes their money off of volume. In fact, just about any foodservice provider makes most of its money off of volume -- I should know; I work in the industry. That said, if the restaurant could make its coffee stay tastefully warm enough longer, it can sell larger volumes of it to people, and therefore charge more money. It's the basic "up-sizing" principle that you see just about everywhere.

If the coffee isn't served warm enough to account for cooling during the time you expect someone to drink it, people will lose interest in the larger size, and consequently the restaurant will lose out on those extra profits from marking up the larger sized cup.”

“Starbucks is a big contributer to global warming. I won't shop there.”

“N.J. State Senator Indicted In Influence-Peddling Scheme

NEWARK, N.J. -- A federal grand jury indicted former state Senator Joseph Coniglio on nine counts of mail fraud and extortion in connection with an influence-peddling scheme at an area hospital.

Joseph Coniglio is accused of influence-peddling regarding a consulting contract he had with a hospital.

The former legislator from Bergen County maintains his innocence but dropped his re-election bid in September after being told he was targeted in a federal corruption probe. His term expired last month.


The 65-year-old Paramus Democrat is the latest New Jersey lawmaker accused of misconduct.

Two Democratic state assemblymen were arrested in September on bribery charges and two Democratic state senators were indicted on federal corruption charges last year

http://www.wnbc.com/news/15302051/detail.html?dl=mainclick”

“Is he a Democrat or a Republican?”

“Oh, never mind, got it.”

“Is it evening or morning when RTVW chimes in with his "worry about your own state" plea?”

“fuhgetaboutit........”

“I'm shocked. Just shocked, I tell ya.”

“A crooked politician in New Jersey? Who'd have thought?”