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Sarge, you complain of the government forcing someone to perform a task. Is the Good Samaritan law a Socialist reform, in your eyes?
Treebeard
3:00:29 PM
6/22/05

As much as the "religious" issue with birth control is completely idiotic, sarge is right. If a private pharmacist doesn't want to sell a drug - any drug, for whatever reason - that's his personal liberty. The market will take care of itself. Frankly I find it disturbing that so many people are so quick to want to have the government force him either out of his position or to sell the drug.
Mutt
3:01:24 PM
6/22/05

I thought the "socialists" were too busy building gulags for guys like Sarge to bother with silly legislation.
MarkO
3:01:56 PM
6/22/05

Treebeard - Absolutely! Of course Treebeard.

Come on - They even made fun of it on Seinfeld that's so ridiculously socialist.
Sarge
3:02:54 PM
6/22/05

Just curious.
Treebeard
3:03:32 PM
6/22/05

This all comes down to whether the company the pharmacist works allows for this type of disciminatory behavior or not. My contention, from the beginning here, was not for gov't intervention. I am spouting personal feelings on this. I find it disturbing that religious zealots are emboldened enough these days to shove this sh_t down people's throats. That's what bothers me.

But, as Mutt and Sarge said, I can't argue with the approach of taking your biz elsewhere. Frankly, anyone who advocates these type policies can suffer monetarily, for all I care. And I hope it comes back and bites them on the ass!
Treebeard
3:09:00 PM
6/22/05

trailhound.. when I said "the christian drugstore" I was mearly trying to point out that if a drug store doesn't dispense birth control, they must be christian.

Yes, I've been with more than 1 christian woman on birth control. Shame on them.
the goat
3:11:37 PM
6/22/05

On the flip side, I know a lot of people who would go out of their way to shop there if they had the policy of not dispensing birth control.
Sarge
4:14:40 PM
6/22/05

I know a lot of people who would go out of their way to shop there if they had the policy of not dispensing birth control.”
Sarge
4:14:40 PM
6/22/05


Catholics??
Ewker
4:18:18 PM
6/22/05

That's one group, yes. Some protestants too.
Sarge
4:20:47 PM
6/22/05

remember when Elaine on Seinfeld used sponges? that seems like such a funny form of birth control now!
lyra
4:23:24 PM
6/22/05

I know a lady who is Catholic and has 6 kids. The last two just about did her in. But she still refuses to stop having kids. She says it God's will if she keeps getting pregnant. All of her family has begged her to stop having kids but she won't listen. To bad because the next one may kill her. I would think the other kids would rather have their Mom around than another brother or sister. If a woman needs to be on BC pills it is her. Sometimes you can go over board on religion. Common sense should play into it you would think.
last edited: 6/22/05 4:27:13 PM
Ewker
4:25:44 PM
6/22/05

Lyra, am I spongeworthy? LOL!

A lot of pharmecies don't carry or give out Oxycontan either and ya don't see Rush throwing a shltfit.
Nigal
4:26:44 PM
6/22/05

hey, Tarpy is in China now, and he says you don't need a prescription for anything!! cool, huh? haha!

i can't imagine wanting to stick a sponge up my coochata even for you, Nigal!
:-D
lyra
4:29:01 PM
6/22/05

It\'s even oder free!
Nigal
4:50:26 PM
6/22/05

its wrong for a pharmacist to refuse to do his job based on religious reasons, but i dont at all advocate the government getting involved. however, he should be answerable to the association he is licensed through, and should face discipline, including losing his license, if he continues forcing his views on others. doctors and lawyer both, hell, most professions, have a code of conduct and set of ethics that they must abide by and get kicked out if they dont. and if its not spelled clearly that they cannot refuse to dispense for religious reasons, it needs to be.
last edited: 6/22/05 6:22:48 PM
Crash Bang
6:22:04 PM
6/22/05

religion is meant to be a deeply personal thing, to give one hope and meaning, not to be an excuse for telling others how to live
Crash Bang
6:24:49 PM
6/22/05

I want a T-shirt that says....

If you keep your Religion to yourself, I'll do the same with my opnion of it.
mtnsteve
6:34:08 PM
6/22/05

So what we are saying is that the pharmacist’s right to religion is trumped by the consumer's right to not be unconvinced? How is a pharmacist not selling something he doesn't fell is right telling others how to live? It's telling them to go two blocks down to CVS.

Next time I want falafels and the Arab restaurant is closed on Friday I'm callin' the ACLU and have them get Hajji’s ass out of church and down there to make my lunch damn it! LOL!

Freedom is having others say and do things we may not like.
last edited: 6/22/05 7:43:46 PM
Nigal
7:36:52 PM
6/22/05

crash bang - lawyers take oaths, are part of organizations ... but if they don't want to represent somebody ... guess what, they don't have to.

and many don't
Sarge
9:32:21 PM
6/22/05

crash bang - the irony is you are the one telling others how to live!

Nobody is making some lady go to a pharmacist to buy a prescription. She can go to another one.

crash - ever hear of getting a 2nd opinion at a doctor's office? They all have varying views on how to do things. Same with the vet. Same with an electrician. Same with the oil/heat dude. ......
Sarge
9:34:57 PM
6/22/05

i knew sarge wouldnt be happy with me mostly agreeing with him. i predict the next 10 posts will be spent arguing with my usage of the word "mostly", "the" or the white space around the letter "y"
Crash Bang
10:06:15 PM
6/22/05

what if youre in a small town in kansas and the only pharmacy within 25 miles refuses to fill your scrip? and then you go the next town over and its the same story over again?

what if you go in to get your computer fixed and the tech geek behind the counter figures out from your buzzcut and your operation enduring freedom t-shirt that youre ex-military and hes really really really against our foreign policy and so refuses to help you cuz he figures youre just gonna use your pc to promulgate a buncha right-wing propaganda, ya know, it against his religion (or lack therefore of, being a godless liberal)
Crash Bang
10:28:07 PM
6/22/05

another instance of crash making this about me ........

typical
Sarge
10:29:03 PM
6/22/05

crash - In both of those instances, those businesses will not get my money. I'm ok with that. I'd prefer it that way.
Sarge
10:30:10 PM
6/22/05

actually, i guess it would be the yellow space around the letter "y"

see, im arguing for you

no! its not yellow! its a really dark shade of off-white!

no! its goldenrod mixed with beige!

no! its the same color as those pringles you keep shoving in your mouth, c!b!

why you! ~expletive deleted~
Crash Bang
10:32:23 PM
6/22/05

Meanwhile you get pregnant by your brother because you couldn't get the morning after pill.

OK, thats not about you.
mtnsteve
10:32:34 PM
6/22/05

sarge ending a post with the word "typical"

typical
Crash Bang
10:33:03 PM
6/22/05

still making this about me instead of the issue

typical
Sarge
10:33:53 PM
6/22/05

the preceding posts have been brought to you by crack
Crash Bang
10:34:18 PM
6/22/05

But your pharmacist goes home with that warm fuzzy feeling for doing the right thing.
mtnsteve
10:34:45 PM
6/22/05

crack!bang!thang!
Sarge
10:35:01 PM
6/22/05

but youre so much more interesting sargey-wargey

lmio
Crash Bang
10:35:29 PM
6/22/05

Hey crack!baby!,

Since you're not on topic anyways, why don't you explain to a newbie like me where the c!b!thang! or whatever came from.
Sarge
10:35:52 PM
6/22/05

Hey crack!baby!,

Since you're not on topic anyways, why don't you explain to a newbie like me where the c!b!thang! or whatever came from.
Sarge
10:35:53 PM
6/22/05

That's not a double post. It only appears that way b/c you're on crack.
Sarge
10:36:16 PM
6/22/05

see? isnt this so much more fun?
Crash Bang
10:36:32 PM
6/22/05

cuz bang rhymes with thang?
Crash Bang
10:37:21 PM
6/22/05

what's up with the ! after each word?
Sarge
10:38:25 PM
6/22/05

crash!
bang!

ya just naturally expect a "!" after such explosive onomatapoiea like that
Crash Bang
10:40:11 PM
6/22/05

Ok, final question.

Why "crash bang"?
Sarge
10:40:39 PM
6/22/05

I don't understand why this is an issue at all. This guy was hired to do a job - fill prescriptions! If he doesn't want to fill them he is free to go work somewhere else.
wanderer
10:41:09 PM
6/22/05

but you cant use characters in your name on this board, so i had to do without. everywhere else, i throw in the !
Crash Bang
10:41:31 PM
6/22/05

wanderer - His employer sides with him.
Sarge
10:41:53 PM
6/22/05

No, I mean why did you pick the name "crash!bang!"?
Sarge
10:42:29 PM
6/22/05

i run into things alot and make alot of noise, falling down, tripping over things, throwing my pack around, etc. i got the name before i even left georgia last year. was given to me by moo juice
Crash Bang
10:43:25 PM
6/22/05

Who is cow's milk?
Sarge
10:43:56 PM
6/22/05

its my AT trailname. actually, its a perfect trailname cuz it follows all the unwritten rules (i know what youre thinking, if theyre unwritten, how do you know it follows all of them?)

1. its given to you by another thru-hiker, while thru-hiking

2. it fits you and your character while on the trail

3. it is unique and somewhat humorous, quirky, or otherwise oddball

4. youre not ashamed to tell your mother what it is or what it means
Crash Bang
10:47:54 PM
6/22/05

Hey, mine fits the rules too. Cool.

Now, why did they call you moo juice? You drink a lot on the trail?

- correction - I wasn't thru-hiking, just hiking

boo-hoo
last edited: 6/22/05 10:50:16 PM
Sarge
10:48:55 PM
6/22/05

moo juice is one of my trail-sisters, companion of beagle, also a trail-sister. they reside in new york and summited big k one day after i did.
last edited: 6/22/05 10:50:43 PM
Crash Bang
10:49:25 PM
6/22/05

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