sunscreen/insect repellent

“im searching for a convenient, light weight bottle of sunscreen which doubles as an insect repellent. sunscreen would have to be sweatproof of course, at least 25 spf and enough deet to last at least 4 hours. i mean if i could knock out a couple of ounces then im a happy man. i've done some research on the net but all that pops up is that off! sunscreen/repellent yet it only has about 9% percent deet which would last, what? 2 hours. if you would be so kind and offer suggestions i would take them with open arms. thanks, brian”

“can anyone help a noob out”

“I don't know of any combo sunscreen/DEET solutions on the market. The mixing usually happens naturally during the course of a trip. I can at least say I've never had any problems (or reactions) when both have mixed on my skin.

Try using at least 33% DEET solution. It seems to be the lowest concentration thats still effective. There are also some new repellants on the market this year - picaradin, permithrin, and lemon eucalyptus oil. All are supposed to be safer than DEET. I've tried the picaradin and it seems to work well. All are available through REI.

Hope that helps.”

“hmm, i'll have to look into those. thanks for the tip”

“you're supposed to reapply sunscreen within 2 hours anyway, so that shouldn't matter that the DEET is only enough for 2 hours. so go ahead and 10% poison yourself! or you could use this, it looks cool...

http://www.smartshield.com/sunscreen_sprays.asp”

“100% Deet is the most effective for keeping insects away. Do not use any natural stuff. I have heard many complaints in their uselessness.”

“i did a buttload of reading and there is actually a great alternate for deet. http://www.picaridin.com/

i know it doesnt really slove my problem BUT im going to go with a small one OZ bottle of picaridin and this half an OZ of sunscreen”

“avon has a good one”