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Chinese Takeover Bid for UnocaView MessagesViewing posts 1 to 12 of 12 messages posted.
“So you want to buy all your junk at the lowest price at Wal-Mart. And since most of that junk is made in China, the Chinese have vast reserves of our currency. And the Chinese want to buy oil. They want it as much for their industries as you and I do for our vehicles. So who is going to get the oil? http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/22/business/worldbusiness/22WIRE-CNOOC.html?ei=5065&en=4d771759a933fc89&ex=1120104000&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print last edited: 6/23/05 11:52:48 AM” 11:52:09 AM 6/23/05 “the Chinese are also trying to buy Maytag which owns Hoover and Jenn Aire applicances.” 11:57:44 AM 6/23/05 “Hey, they gave us Majong man. Ya can't front on dat! :)” 1:01:17 PM 6/23/05 “And spaghetti and fireworks.” 1:11:20 PM 6/23/05 “Hoovers suck anyway.” 1:34:42 PM 6/23/05 “Reminds me of Japan back in the '80's. From the Spectator: China Won't Be a Superpower [...] The Chinese, their money and their manufactured goods are everywhere, and pundits in search of New Year themes have been full of predictions about China as the coming global power. The great William Rees-Mogg, never one to hold back from a bold forecast, says this ‘is beginning to look like the Chinese century’. The former diplomat Sir Jeremy Greenstock, on the Today programme, spoke of China as ‘an increasingly large presence on our horizon’, conjuring the image of those huge alien spaceships that loomed over the world in the film Independence Day. The People’s Republic, we are repeatedly reminded, is sustaining growth of 9 per cent a year, on the strength of massive inflows of foreign investment. It is now the second largest national economy after the US, measured in terms of ‘purchasing power parity’ (PPP), and will soon be bigger than the whole of the EU. It has a prosperous middle class of 100 million people, most of them connected to the Internet and among them at least 10,000 whizz-kids like Mr Zhang and Mr Liu, with net assets of more than $10 million each. Every factory enterprise that makes another Chinese fortune destroys jobs in the US and Europe, while a large portion of the dollars China earns is reinvested in US Treasury bills to finance America’s notorious deficit — giving China, one way and the other, a hard-to-beat hand of cards in global economic affairs. Hence superpowerdom is Beijing’s for the taking, in this decade or the next. Or is it? The time is surely ripe to rehearse the counter-arguments on this one, and let me start by declaring a bias: the last day I stood in Beijing’s Tiananmen Square was 4 May 1989, which was the first day the students marched in with their banners, and were there to stay until the tanks crushed them a month later. Before and after that traumatic moment, I made many visits to Taiwan, a country which achieved prosperity and democratic progress by refusing to be part of China. In the same era I was often in Tokyo, where hotel bookstalls were full of tomes by American gurus predicting the rise of Japan as the global giant of the 21st century on the strength of its fabulous industrial and financial supremacy; after the Tokyo stock market collapsed — never to recover — at the end of 1989, the books were pulped and the arguments never heard again. So it is worth reminding ourselves why China is not necessarily destined for greatness, and certainly does not deserve our unmixed admiration. First, its present growth rate is very far from sustainable, dependent as it is on slave wage rates, corrupt bureaucracy, near total absence of environmental controls and a financial system which is at best rickety and at worst, by Western standards, insolvent. Second, as Bill Emmott wrote in 2003 in 20:21 Vision, China today is in fact only ‘a modest country at best’, whose gross domestic product per capita, even on a PPP basis, is still only a fraction of that of neighbours such as South Korea, and on a par with Ukraine. And although China is obviously far from modest in population, at 1.3 billion, it could be overtaken on that front within a couple of decades by India, which also has claims to superpower status in terms of technology, weaponry and what China most glaringly lacks, a democratic government that the world respects. To enlarge that last point, many observers argue that China cannot continue to advance economically without reforming politically. The new middle class, concentrated in the coastal provinces, is content simply to get rich by paying its dues to the party elite, but a younger generation, more aware of the freedoms enjoyed elsewhere, may not be so compliant. Eventually, lack of democracy will itself become a brake on economic progress, holding back reforms and imposing too many costs — all those bribes for local officials, all those well-paid jobs for their cousins. At that same point, foreign investors will become disenchanted by the lack of an untainted judicial system which might help them enforce contract terms and get their money back. But the party will not loosen its grip without a fight, and meanwhile there are still a billion Chinese who are not part of the economic miracle — instead they are underemployed peasants like Mr Zhang’s displaced and disgruntled ex-neighbours, whose only hope of a better life is to stare through the fence that keeps them out and wait for remittances from their offspring, who labour for a pittance in urban sweatshops. One day they may rise up to cut the throats of the rich and powerful, taking China back to the civil wars of its pre-Communist past. And lastly — my guiding text here is Niall Ferguson’s The Cash Nexus — we should remember that money is not always the answer to everything. Mr Zhang may be able to buy a château, but today’s Chinese leaders cannot so easily buy themselves a seat at the top table. International reactions to the two relative unknowns now at the top, President Hu Jintao and Premier Wen Jiabao, tend to echo General de Gaulle’s remark on first seeing a diminutive Japanese prime minister of the 1960s: ‘Who is that transistor radio salesman?’ The truth about superpowerdom is that it is partly to do with economic might, but also a matter of culture, education, science, military hardware and statesmanlike posturing. It is about coercing or persuading other parts of the world to want to be like you — which Britain, France, the Soviet Union and the United States have all achieved in their time and in their spheres of influence. How many French millionaires do you know who want to build replica Chinese pavilions in the suburbs of Paris? China produces thousands of gifted musicians who have adapted to the Western tradition — Lang Lang, for example, was the world’s best-selling classical pianist last year — and, needless to say, proud British piano marques such as Broadwood are now actually manufactured in China. But how many European musicians adapt the other way, and how many Spectator readers have ever willingly sat through a Chinese opera? We have always liked Chinese food and we have recently warmed to Hero and Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon in the cinema, but a survey this week said that China is one of the five countries where Britons would least like to live. In a broad cultural sense, it is China that wants to imitate the West, and not the other way round. As for progress for the benefit of mankind, the Chinese may be queuing round the block for MBA courses taught by professors flown over from Harvard, but their tally of Nobel prizes won on home ground is precisely zero (the roll includes two Chinese-born, American-based particle physicists, Chen and Lee, in 1957, and one Taiwanese American chemist, another Lee, in 1986). By comparison, the University of California alone has notched up 15 laureates since 1980. As for literature, the 2000 prize went to Gao Xingjian, born in Jiangxi province, who had to burn a suitcase full of manuscripts during the Cultural Revolution and find exile in France before he could write freely. Ancient China was a great and splendid civilisation; the China built by Mao and Deng is not. Militarily, on the other hand, China is very big, at least in one sense — and it has unresolved territorial issues over Taiwan (which the US might feel obliged to defend) and the South China Sea that might one day lead to conflict. According to a helpful public website provided by the CIA, China has 208,143,352 men between the ages of 15 and 49 who are fit for conscript military service. But only 2.5 million of them are permanently in uniform, many of their senior officers are busy making fortunes in real estate, the defence budget is surprisingly small because Beijing is so bad at collecting taxes, and the national stock of long-range missiles of the sort which really make you a global player numbers only about 20, according to the International Institute for Strategic Studies. That would make a pretty short fireworks display compared with what America has in its armoury. Finally, then, to statesmanship. The Chinese government chipped in £31 million for the tsunami earthquake relief, half of what the British public has so far donated and a fraction of Japan’s offering, but a hundred times more than miserly South Korea. If China was in any useful sense a leader of its region, this would be the moment for Mr Hu or Mr Wen to step into the spotlight, but they have already been upstaged by President Bush. And no one even bothers to ask them what they think of the continuing war in Iraq. As for all the other fashionable issues on which statesmen like to pontificate, China scores no points at all on human rights and very few on public health: it made a hash of the Sars epidemic, and has only belatedly faced up to HIV/Aids, which according to the World Health Organisation could afflict ten million Chinese by the end of the decade. In the battle to eradicate poverty, it can claim about 300 million successes, but a billion failures. On global warming, China signed the Kyoto protocol while remaining one of the most shameless offenders on the planet, a situation which can only worsen as its manufacturing prowess increases. It is, in fact, a vast environmental hazard zone, as any recent visitor to its dustbowl provinces and smog-laden industrial towns can confirm. To quote the CIA again, ‘Air pollution (greenhouse gases, sulphur dioxide particulates) from reliance on coal produces acid rain; water shortages, particularly in the north; water pollution from untreated wastes; deforestation; estimated loss of one fifth of agricultural land since 1949 to soil erosion and economic development; desertification; trade in endangered species.’ So there is no sense in which the rest of Asia or the world should, or does, seek to march to China’s drum. And there are a great many reasons to bet that China’s economic surge will not go onwards and upwards for long. Let us wish Mr Zhang and Mr Liu a prosperous New Year, but let us not confuse a fast buck with a bid for global leadership.” 1:42:01 PM 6/23/05 “From Stratfor: > China's Economy: Running Out of Borrowed Time > > Summary > > Chinese economic growth accelerated to 9.5 percent in the fourth > quarter as measured from the previous quarter at an annualized > rate, according to a Jan. 25 National Bureau of Statistics > report. This indicates that the steps China took in 2004 to cool > its overheating economy have failed. Beijing appears to be > waiting until first quarter 2005 statistical reports are released > before deciding whether to take further steps to slow the > economy. This is a risky proposition at best, given that time is > not on China's side. > > Analysis > > A Jan. 25 report from the Chinese National Bureau of Statistics > stating that the country's gross domestic product growth > accelerated to 9.5 percent year-on-year from the third quarter's > 9.1 percent is unwelcome news for Beijing. In 2004, the Chinese > government took steps to cool down the country's boiling economy > and managed to slow growth from 9.8 percent in the first quarter > to 9.1 percent in the third. Though the government had some > success, these latest figures show that the measures taken were > insufficient. > > On Jan. 26, Qi Jingmei, an economist at the Chinese State > Information Center, a research arm of the country's top economic > planning body, said China would most likely renew its efforts to > slow the economy by raising interest rates, increasing the > reserve ratio for banks or increasing investment restrictions in > overheated sectors such as steel, cement, real estate and the > automotive sector. > > What Stratfor finds surprising is that Qi said China probably > would wait until figures detailing economic activity in the first > quarter of 2005 were available before deciding a course of > action. With the costs of international credit trending upward > for 2005, excess capacity continuing to grow and foreign > investors increasingly aware of the instability of the Chinese > economy, this wait-and-see approach entails a loss of time that > China can ill afford. > > China's first efforts to rein in its economy in 2004 came as an > unexpected shock to investors when Beijing announced an across- > the-board credit freeze in March. Beijing's admission that the > economy was overheating was a rude awakening that provided the > first clue that the Chinese dragon might be blowing more smoke > than fire. On its own, increased caution with regards to the > Chinese economy does not present risks to Beijing. It is what > looms on the horizon in the global economy for 2005 that > represents real peril. > > Global interest rates are set to rise in 2005, led by the United > States, which will need to steadily raise rates from the > abnormally low levels of the last several years in order to curb > inflationary pressures as solid economic growth continues in > 2005. As interest rates rise in the United States, capital will > flow away from developing economies and toward the United States, > with international credit becoming more expensive. Foreign firms > borrowing money to invest in China's booming export sector -- > currently the engine of the country's growth -- will find it more > expensive to continue doing so as the year progresses. With > profit margins already thin for foreign firms with Chinese > operations, many companies will decide that their money will be > better served elsewhere. > > Stratfor does not believe U.S. interest rate hikes will reveal > the first cracks in the Chinese economy until the second half of > 2005, after those higher rates have had a chance to bite. In the > meantime, China is creating a more precarious situation for > itself by forestalling action to put the brakes on its economy. > Overinvestment has created bubbles throughout the Chinese > economy. The longer China waits to slow its economy, the larger > these bubbles will become, and the louder the sucking sound will > be when they burst. > > The property market offers an ideal illustration of the size of > the bubbles in China's economy. Property firm CB Richard Ellis, > in a recent survey of prime office real estate throughout world, > listed two Shanghai districts and Beijing in the top 50 most > expensive areas in the world. The problem for China is not high > prices, but occupancy levels in these districts that are as low > as 70 percent. With overinvestment in sectors such as steel and > cement driven largely by the need to employ migrants moving en > masse from rural to urban areas behind this excess capacity, this > is a classic bubble scenario. > > If a demand shock should hit the property market, such as one > that would be caused by the departure of a multitude of foreign > firms, occupancy rates would plunge, and the resulting oversupply > and reduced demand would lead to a collapse in prices. The > property bubble in China today is similar to that which existed > in Japan in the 1980s. When demand collapsed in Japan in the > early 1990s, property prices fell through the floor, and the > Japanese economy -- and property prices -- have yet to recover. > China currently is following in Japan's footsteps, and the > sustained deflation that Japan continues to be mired in grows > more likely in China with each day that passes without greater > economic intervention efforts. > > International investors -- who increasingly are aware of the > Chinese economy's structural weaknesses, expecting higher global > interest rates and now having witnessed the government's failure > to reduce excess capacity -- likely are to be more skittish about > sudden changes in China's economic policies than they were in > 2004. Additionally, any steps China takes to slow its economy > will need to be decidedly more forceful than those that failed in > 2004. Factor in that Beijing's wait-and-see approach will allow > the bubbles in the economy to grow still larger, and the > intervention will need to be that much more aggressive when it > comes. > > With more time for excess capacity to grow, more aggressive > government intervention in the offing as a result, and more time > to realize that the global economy will not be working in China's > favor in 2005, even the most optimistic investors likely are to > see their confidence in the Chinese economy shaken. This will > make the eventual hard landing that much harder.” 1:50:48 PM 6/23/05 “"So there is no sense in which the rest of Asia or the world should, or does, seek to march to China’s drum. And there are a great many reasons to bet that China’s economic surge will not go onwards and upwards for long. Let us wish Mr Zhang and Mr Liu a prosperous New Year, but let us not confuse a fast buck with a bid for global leadership." China is an environmental disater in the making........house of cards. Thanks, Mutt!!” 1:56:22 PM 6/23/05 “China has their problems but that still won't prevent them from unloading worthless fiat US dollars on real assets and natural resources owned by companies in the United States. They are looking to dump this currency somewhere but no one in the rest of the world wants much of it. The world is flush with dollars. Hence the Chinese are going for something of substance.” 2:18:40 PM 6/23/05 “there was a time a while back when walmart waved the flag proclaiming all the made in America goods that they had-not any more--” 6:06:47 PM 6/23/05 “Mark, I'm beginning to think you're right - and that's a significant departure from my views of the last decade or so.” 8:20:33 AM 6/24/05 “China: An Offer Reveals Beijing's Broader Energy Goals June 23, 2005 22 20 GMT Summary China National Offshore Oil Corp. Ltd. (CNOOC) has bid $18.5 billion to acquire Unocal Corp., a U.S. oil firm that previously agreed to be purchased by Chevron for $16.4 billion. The deal would require CNOOC to take out a $16 billion loan from a group of Western and state-owned banks. CNOOC's move illustrates three major trends in Chinese economic behavior: the drive to increase energy self-sufficiency through technology, the push to acquire American assets, and the reliance on state banks to advance broad Chinese policy goals. Though the deal is not likely to go through, the offer shows that China will pursue its energy goals aggressively in the future. Analysis China National Offshore Oil Corp. Ltd. (CNOOC) offered $18.5 billion for U.S. energy company Unocal Corp. on June 23. While this offer is unlikely to be accepted, it casts light on important trends in Chinese economic and energy policy. CNOOC's cash offer follows a bid by Chevron Corp. to buy Unocal for $16.4 billion. CNOOC would put up $3 billion and borrow the remaining $16 billion from Western banks, state-owned banks and its parent company, prompting a cut in CNOOC's debt rating by Moody's and Standard & Poor's. CNOOC would also have to pay Chevron a fee of $500 million. Chevron's bid, on the other hand, consists of 75 percent stock and 25 percent cash, which has prompted Unocal shareholders to consider the Chinese offer. China's recent economic explosion has increased the country's energy demand drastically. A decade ago, China was self-sufficient in oil. Now, close to half of Chinese oil comes from foreign sources, and total consumption is pushing 7 million barrels per day. This deal would double CNOOC's oil and gas production and increase its reserves by 80 percent. Also, the fact that half of Unocal's reserves are in Asia only sweetens the deal for China. The most important aspect of the acquisition, however, is technological. Although Unocal is not on the cutting edge of the energy industry, the deal would provide CNOOC with a significant technological boost. China needs ready-to-go technological infrastructure to meet its long-term demand. Offshore-production technology will become increasingly important for China as it expands operations in the South China Sea and West Africa. China's push for Western acquisition is not limited to energy. Chinese investment conglomerate Haier Group made a bid for Maytag Corp. last week, and China's largest computer company, Lenovo, made a bid for IBM last month. China's need to send capital abroad, its increased focus on brand names, and its outward economic thrust lie behind this trend. After years of massive capital inflow into China, the Middle Kingdom is beginning to send money back abroad in the same fashion that the Japanese did during the 1980s. Of the $16 billion CNOOC would borrow for the proposed acquisition, $6 billion would come from the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China (a state-owned bank), $7 billion would come from CNOOC's parent company, China National Offshore Oil Corp. (in essence, a state-owned bank), and $3 billion would come from the Goldman Sachs Group and JP Morgan. As Stratfor has noted, China's use of state banks as a policy tool and the substantial amount of bad loans held by state banks represent a significant problem for China. While a potential acquisition of this size being leveraged to this degree would be abnormal by Western standards, the loans would not be bad by Chinese standards and would not exacerbate the trend of bad loans. JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs are likely involved in the venture to build political capital in China in order to facilitate future ventures there. Should the acquisition go through, other Unocal assets would easily provide enough equity to cover the Western banks' portion of the loan. However, this deal's chances in Washington are grim. U.S. Rep. Richard Pombo and U.S. Rep. Duncan Hunter, both of California, have penned a letter to President Bush expressing concern about the deal, focusing on national security issues. China's economic relations with the United States are already strained by congressional pressure on Beijing to revalue the yuan. Furthermore, Chevron, which has stated publicly that it and Unocal are "substantially finished with the regulatory process," is not likely to take a hands-off approach to the matter. Whatever clout it possesses in Washington is no doubt being leveraged to thwart the Chinese purchase. Regardless of whether CNOOC's bid fails, which it probably will, the expansionist position of Chinese energy companies will persist. These companies will be increasingly ready to use easily accessible capital to acquire the technology they need for energy self-sufficiency. And as major energy companies rarely go up for sale, increased Chinese efforts to acquire technology from contractors and consultancies is likely.” 8:28:07 AM 6/24/05
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