Pro-Life in Name Only

“Ok, it is worse. LOL”

“so i borrow from the next one over and make the zero a ten, right?”

“use calc.exe”

“no! screw that! im gonna go ask a fifth-grader”

“AP: Unborn Panda "Baby," But with Human
Unborn Child a "Fetus"

"Life Begins at Conception -- If You're a Panda," James Taranto noted Wednesday, in the OpinionJournal.com's "Best of the Web" column, in contrasting how August 3 AP dispatches described the offspring of a panda versus a brain-dead woman who was kept on life support until the entity inside her could survive outside the womb. One AP story referred to how "a 13-year-old giant panda gave birth to a cub at San Diego Zoo, but a second baby died in the womb, officials said Wednesday." Another dispatch cited how "a cancer-ravaged woman robbed of consciousness by a stroke has given birth after being kept on life support for three months to give her fetus extra time to develop." Subsequently, however, the AP updated its stories so that the terms were reversed. The "second baby" panda became the "second fetus" and the woman's "fetus" became "the child she was carrying."
For Taranto's posting of the contrast: www.opinionjournal.com
Yahoo's AP posting of U.S. AP stories had the wording updated, as described above, but the Asian versions, with the original phrasing, remain posted.

# "Baby" panda version, August 3, 8:21pm: "Baby Giant Panda Born at San Diego Zoo." Lead of un-bylined story: "A 13-year-old giant panda gave birth to a cub at San Diego Zoo, but a second baby died in the womb, officials said Wednesday." See: [url]asia.news.yahoo.com [/url]

# "Fetus" panda, August 3, 2:09pm: "Baby Giant Panda Born at San Diego Zoo." Lead: "A 13-year-old giant panda gave birth to a cub at San Diego Zoo, but a second fetus died in the womb, officials said Wednesday." See: news.yahoo.com

# Human "fetus," August 3 at 11:07am: "Brain-Dead Woman in Va. Gives Birth." Lead of un-bylined story: "A brain-dead pregnant woman who has been kept on life support for nearly three months to give her fetus more time to develop gave birth to a baby girl Tuesday, the woman's brother-in-law said." See: asia.news.yahoo.com
# Human "child," August 3, 7:18pm: "Brain-Dead Woman Dies After Giving Birth." Lead of article by Matthew Barakat: "A brain-dead woman who was kept alive for three months so she could deliver the child she was carrying was removed from life support Wednesday and died, a day after giving birth." See: news.yahoo.com”

“sarge, what do you think about organ donors.
There isn't much difference between harvesting someones organs so others can live vs doing stem cell research so others can live. I wish I could find the article but there is 400,000 available for stem cell research. Should we use them or toss them in the medicial waste bin. If we should toss them then why not toss any organs taken from a body.
Both are there so why not use them to save lives?”

“Ewker - Were those people you refer to when "harvesting someones organs" born for the purpose of using their organs?

I'm aware of maybe one case where that happened, and it was controversial.”

“Ewker - So far you have ignored this post.”

“LOL”

“sarge, that has nothing to do with what I asked. You actually know a case where that happen? That is interesting.”

“Ok, then, how are their organs harvested unless it's totally voluntary?”