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i had forgotten about that phaedrus.

this was the "fake death" post that you referenced.

"Hey everyone,
I'm finally posting on the infamous trailtalk, or "the backpacker site" as Sarge used to call it. Unfortunately, it's not under circumstances which I'd like. I'm writing to you because you meant a lot to Sarge. "The backpacker site I go to" is a phrase I heard many times in conversations with him. He'd often talk about things written on this site, and sometimes say "check this out" and he'd show me a one of your conversations. We'd laugh at some of the posts, and we'd sometimes try to come up with new ways to "make things interesting" and "stir the pot."

But, as you may have guessed, Sarge, whose real name was Jim, died unexpectedly. Three days ago on Friday, at about 5:15pm, Jim was the victim of a fatal heart attack. I realize none of y'all knew Jim in real life, so I want to tell you a little about him, as I'm sure he would've liked me to do. I can assure you that Jim was a good man. He loved his family, his friends, and his country. I knew him to be a man of conviction, yet he listened intently to others and enjoyed the challenging (and fun) conversations online. He was a good friend and proud ex-soldier. He loved to backpack and even had an optional major knee surgery so that he could stay active. [On a small side note, Jim was not just about backpacking and internet chat. He loved the martial arts and for years seemed obsessed by it, working long hours at honing his skills. We had fun watching marital arts movies like "Iron Monkey" and then one night we watched "City on Fire"...a horrible movie! (The Blockbuster kid told us it was a good martial arts movie...Jim wanted to go Kung Pow on him afterward!)]

He's told me in the past how he'd often desired a friendly relationship and dialog with many of you, but felt the confines of the internet squelched that too much. When we'd go on hikes, he'd ask people we'd pass something about this site to see if he recognized them, hoping to meet some of you, so he really had a fondness in his heart for you, whether you agreed or disagreed about any number of topics. Backpacking and hiking were ways to just be with people to Jim. Recently, Jim lost a loved one, his dog. If dogs go to Heaven I am sure they are together again. Thanks everyone!" - muskrat (sarge troll)
Yogisan
12:58:23 PM
12/04/08

He's just dissembling, since he can't back up his claims. In IT, when you can't do something, there's often a compulsion to say it's impossible.

BTW, Sargie-poo, if you're interested in getting rid of me, I'll make you a deal. Care to play?
Phaedrus
1:13:04 PM
12/04/08

I'm serious. I'll ban myself for as long as you're on TT, if you can back up one of your easily verifiable claims of my choice.
Phaedrus
1:24:55 PM
12/04/08

I am baffled by the relevence of this....then I check your "locations" and WALLA...no kidding. Yeah explains a lot.
PanchoVilla
1:26:59 PM
12/04/08

I have no problem with you wasting your time on here Phaedrus. If I'm going to, why not you? This has nothing to do with getting rid of you.

As you've just demonstrated again, I could show you a rock and you'd claim it was a stick.

Your psuedo-reality is your problem, not mine.
Hiker1984
1:31:48 PM
12/04/08

You haven't showed me anything.

You're backing down from the challenge based on not having the proper reward for the challenge, then?
Phaedrus
1:36:15 PM
12/04/08

I just gave you two reasons, and you saw a 3rd. That's why I won't accept a bet with you.
Hiker1984
1:37:56 PM
12/04/08

Post 100% proof of your very first post on trailtalk.

use google
Hiker1984
1:40:08 PM
12/04/08

In order to "make things interesting" and "stir the pot", I will say "it's a stick", while Phaedrus will probably say "it's a monkey".
kleetn
1:40:15 PM
12/04/08

You gave me a reason (you don't care if I post here, thus the reward for the challenge is not something you want) and an insult.

I personally believe you're incapable of verifying any of the information you have posted here, because it's false. This includes the stuff that would be easy to verify, were it true, and still say nothing about your real identity.

Prove me wrong.
Phaedrus
1:42:07 PM
12/04/08

Uh oh, don't put the stick and the monkey together or there could be a wicked beating.
MarkO
1:42:27 PM
12/04/08

ok, tell me what about me u don't believe, & how I can prove it w/o iding Myself

if I can do it, I will, no bet

if not, i'll telk u why I can't
Hiker1984
1:53:42 PM
12/04/08

You know where I live. Post my address.

No skin off your back if my address is posted. No outing of yourself. In fact nothing to do with you whatsoever.
Phaedrus
1:59:13 PM
12/04/08

Hmmmm, interesting..... very clever - lets see if Sargie is FOS?
Y2
2:02:35 PM
12/04/08

Post my quote first.
Hiker1984
2:04:08 PM
12/04/08

Boy, when mommy finds out he turned off the parental guidance control, is he every gonna be in trouble.
Geobeet
2:04:32 PM
12/04/08

???

“That's ok Nigal, I know where he lives.”
fullmoonglob
4:10:08 PM
10/10/06

last edited: 12/04/08 1:52:21 PM
Phaedrus
2:04:42 PM
12/04/08

wait, i already ided you. can i post a picture?
Yogisan
2:08:04 PM
12/04/08

dare you.
Phaedrus
2:08:57 PM
12/04/08

why dare me? dare him...
Yogisan
2:10:20 PM
12/04/08

I already did. He's wimping out.
Phaedrus
2:12:14 PM
12/04/08

Phaedrus, where is my quote where I said I have your address?
Hiker1984
2:16:45 PM
12/04/08

Oh, here we go.

So, by, "I know where he lives", you meant, like the general area?
Phaedrus
2:19:16 PM
12/04/08

I meant general area, but there is more to it than that. If I needed to find you, I could/can. That doesn't mean I always know your exact location. In the context of the original discussion, I could be at your location.

If you want me to prove something ABOUT ME, (as I stated above), rather than prove a knowledge or the ability to retrieve data about you, go for it.

on a side note - One on the biggest personalities on here doubted I could locate them as needed, and I sent them a Christmas present.
Hiker1984
2:25:15 PM
12/04/08

Bluster and deflection. My address hasn't changed in five years. It certainly hasn't changed since you said you know where I lived. When confronted with a challenge to post my address, you fail.

You're FOS.
Phaedrus
2:29:34 PM
12/04/08

Like I said, I could show you a rock and you'd say it was a stick.

If you want me to prove something about me, as originally stated, let me know.
Hiker1984
2:37:20 PM
12/04/08

F.O.S.
Phaedrus
2:41:23 PM
12/04/08

so can i post the picture i found?
Yogisan
2:41:58 PM
12/04/08

oh come on. it's a nice picture. you are smiling and it's outdoors with the woods and all. looks like autumn to me. you were a lot younger then plus it proves you hiked at one point in your life. autumn is the best time of the year to hike. join the community!
last edited: 12/04/08 2:38:19 PM
Yogisan
2:50:53 PM
12/04/08

btw Phaedrus, just because I didn't mean that when speaking to Nigal, doesn't mean I don't know your address.

again, rocks & sticks ....
Hiker1984
2:59:48 PM
12/04/08

c'mon... you don't have me on ignore. if you do i know you are PEEKING!
Yogisan
3:01:38 PM
12/04/08

I don't want to post your address here honestly Phaedrus. Who knows if someday you'll wish it wasn't online? What if I said you have a short white fence along one side of the front your house (not a gate on the south side, cough cough), wood in back, (that's what she said), hardwood floors with a doodle on it? Enough info? I have lots more riddles I can dance if you can stomach it. Get it? If you want, I can call you tomorrow at work and we can talk about it. (I wouldn't do that, seriously)

Now, aren't you glad we didn't bet? I don't mind you here Phaedrus, I just don't think your harassment is funny. I get it. It's frankly OLD.

I like you Phaedrus, I would have sex with you if I were gay, but I'm not. Let's just end this crap, ok?

Love,
Hiker1984

ps. - whenyou realize I am not FOS after reading this, can you set the record straight? Thanks a million, bub.
Hiker1984
3:44:19 PM
12/04/08

sarge never threatened my family, tilt. it was a misunderstanding
crash bang
3:55:59 PM
12/04/08

and WALLA...no kidding

i think the word youre looking for, punchy, is
voila
crash bang
3:58:49 PM
12/04/08

FOS.
Y2
3:59:14 PM
12/04/08

y2, not everybody is shares your enthusiasm for shlt.
Hiker1984
4:35:52 PM
12/04/08

Well, let's see:

I don't want to post your address here honestly Phaedrus. Who knows if someday you'll wish it wasn't online?

It IS online. If you knew my real name you would easily have my address.

What if I said you have a short white fence along one side of the front your house

Strike one!

(not a gate on the south side, cough cough),

Strike two!

wood in back, (that's what she said),

Strike three!

hardwood floors with a doodle on it?

Just wrong. And kind of stupid.

Enough info?

Yes, you've proven you couldn't find me if I were hiding in your closet.

I have lots more riddles I can dance if you can stomach it. Get it? If you want, I can call you tomorrow at work and we can talk about it. (I wouldn't do that, seriously)

Since I work at home these days unless I'm onsite with a client, I'd love to see you do so.

Now, aren't you glad we didn't bet?

No. I wish you would have bet something that you could have lost. Removing the last threads of your dignity and credibility is just no fun without cash or prizes.

I don't mind you here Phaedrus, I just don't think your harassment is funny. I get it. It's frankly OLD.

I could care less if you don't like it. You're an internet nuisance, that's all.

I like you Phaedrus, I would have sex with you if I were gay, but I'm not. Let's just end this crap, ok?

If I were gay, you wouldn't stand a chance. As for the rest, everyone should be aware now that you're FOS.

Love,
Hiker1984

ps. - whenyou realize I am not FOS after reading this, can you set the record straight? Thanks a million, bub.”
Hiker1984
1:44:19 PM
12/04/08
ignore this user


The record is straight.
last edited: 12/04/08 4:33:37 PM
Phaedrus
4:44:52 PM
12/04/08

You are full of it, I know for a fact. Either you missed the clues, or you're lying.
Hiker1984
4:51:17 PM
12/04/08

i really, really, really want to post this.
Yogisan
5:05:51 PM
12/04/08

If you knew my real name you would easily have my address. - kilobyte

You're probably feeling pretty strange right now knowing that I have so much info. What did Nigal call it? Public domain, right? Anyways, I have no intention in putting any info, your address, dog's name, your friends' names (or demi-names), wife's vornamen, license plate (#s add to 19), military exp., etc.

Why can't you admit defeat?

You are definitely FOS.

Let's end this. Admit I'm right, and we'll be friends. I'm serious. (que crash bang)
Hiker1984
5:15:37 PM
12/04/08

do it. Do it NOW.
Sassafras
5:17:06 PM
12/04/08

Oh, and not that you care, but I forgive you for making remarks about my wife. All is forgiven. We're friends in my book. Just don't mention her again please. Thank you.
Hiker1984
5:18:37 PM
12/04/08

LOL! Now you've got me rolling!

You took some time and got my name and fumbled around with Google!

This only proves that you suck at the internet.

You got a six-year-old address from a high school reunion website (yes, I looked at the pictures of the place I used to rent, and your description is good if you've only ever seen street view). You got a past employer's phone number from a tech forums message list. You might even have found my facebook or linkedin pages. The only things you'll find there are the things I don't care if you know. Same goes for my website.

Now, if you were GOOD at the internet, you could find my current address, and then you'd have absolutely no excuse for not following up on your previous inclinations.

Oh, but we're friends now. Isn't that convenient!
last edited: 12/04/08 6:20:49 PM
Phaedrus
6:29:17 PM
12/04/08

So, you admit I know your name, and can locate you?

btw, you left out a lot more I got right.
Hiker1984
6:36:01 PM
12/04/08

That was phun. I pheel great!

Now scuse me while I do a little belly dance.

Seriously, that was phun.
Hiker1984
6:44:12 PM
12/04/08

We need to do this and get it over with.
Yogisan
6:44:27 PM
12/04/08

I tracked you while you went through my website. 48 page loads - you really enjoyed that archive. Hope you liked the videos of my son.

I know what you know. The things you have are either dated or irrelevant.

More importantly, the fact that you had to scramble about to get data on me today proves that it was a lie when you said you knew where I lived.

You still don't.
last edited: 12/04/08 6:40:48 PM
Phaedrus
6:53:04 PM
12/04/08

So, you admit I know your name, and can locate you?
Hiker1984
6:57:59 PM
12/04/08

that doesnt sound like what he said
crash bang
7:00:56 PM
12/04/08

he would never admit he's wrong, obviously
Hiker1984
7:02:16 PM
12/04/08

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