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Tribute to ViolinView Messages“Sarge - how about letting statistics and intuition guide you. Take a guess!” 1:37:13 PM 10/31/05 “No one really knows who violin is. He is to afraid to come on a TT hike. No one that I know of on TT has ever hiked with him. matt has stated in the past that violin is the troll name violin uses more than others. last edited: 10/31/05 1:42:06 PM” 1:38:38 PM 10/31/05 “I don't have a hunch. It's difficult to tell online. My guess would be he's hungarian. Is that right?” 1:39:08 PM 10/31/05 “Are you serious? He's might be matt's troll? I don't believe it.” 1:40:18 PM 10/31/05 Pedxing “Ped -- 1. Its a given that Sarge knows exactly the reaction that his "Mexican vs African vs Normal" prefixes to "American" will provoke. 2. Its a given that he will DENY the intent to create any such reaction. 3. Its a given that he instead will attempt to turn any problem that we have with his characterization back on us. As if we didn't understand what he meant, or we are too sensitive etc etc. 4. He will fight any attempt to make him acknowledge the inappropriateness of using the "Mexican vs African vs Normal" prefixes to the death. Using threats, pouting, name calling and other tatics. You need only go back to the thread that had the veiled threat to post your address. YOU know what his intent was. I know what his intent was. HE knows what his intent was but again . ..will argue it to death. This is just another in a long line of examples.” 1:40:51 PM 10/31/05 “I've seen pictures of him, but he's not Matt. It's hard to tell from the pictures what he is. He doesn't look American in the pictures.” 1:40:57 PM 10/31/05 Pedxing “One must wonder, does lee think you are incapable of deducing things for yourself? Maybe he thinks you're an idiot? Lee - Lighten up. You take yourself way more serious than any of us do. Curious ... do you ever post anything on here other than for your anti-Sarge campaign?” 1:42:54 PM 10/31/05 “Pictures can be shopped, LOL. Maybe matt is violin, who knows? I've met matt, and matt is a nice guy from TN, so I don't think matt is violin. ;-)” 1:44:26 PM 10/31/05 “But Lee, Sarge is so much smarter than everyone else. He toys with them like his playthings.” 1:45:08 PM 10/31/05 Sarge “1. Tore, Feldman, O'Reilly, Nelson... That's an Italian, a Jew, an Irishman and a regular American. That's what I call a balanced ticket - Archie Bunker FYI -- Archie Bunker was the creation of one of the most liberal TV writers and Producers in the business. Norman Lear. We all "got" the satire . . ..didn't you?? 2. He doesn't look American in the pictures.” Sarge What's the matter? Not getting enough reaction from your more subtle racist comments??” 1:45:08 PM 10/31/05 “We all "got" the satire . . ..didn't you?? Speaking of not getting it.” 1:46:47 PM 10/31/05 Pedxing “I am sorry if you are embarassed by the following comment from Sarge: One must wonder, does lee think you are incapable of deducing things for yourself? Maybe he thinks you're an idiot? Fact is . . .I had been wondering about the intellectual fire power you had been bringing to bear in these conversations . . .” 1:47:15 PM 10/31/05 “What's the matter? Not getting enough reaction from your more subtle racist comments?? Um, "American" isn't a race.” 1:47:33 PM 10/31/05 Sarge “See #3 in my original post.” 1:48:44 PM 10/31/05 “Yes, lets all pretend your postings aren't glass-like for a moment Sarge.” 1:55:32 PM 10/31/05 “Lee: I'm not sure what you meant by that last sentence. If part of what you are saying is that I take Sarge's bait too often, I think you're right. I've gotten email from some folks who don't post on Fuego to that effect. I've known Lee to agree and disagree with me respectfully for a long time. I'm not offended if he - or anyone else - puts out a logical case to try to persuade me of a different point of view on some matter. I'm not offended by disagreement or by people who believe they see something I don't. Lee, by the way, has posted some great backpacking stuff including trip reports. Not everyone who has posts to Fuego has done the same.” 1:56:11 PM 10/31/05 “Sarge is a naughty Puppet Master.” 1:59:43 PM 10/31/05 Pedxing “I was just funning wid ya. RE: Hiking. I have been keeping a close eye on the Pinkham Notch area . ..more specifically the ridgelines. Am supposed to do the Carters and Moriah next weekend (the 11th). Not sure the whole deal is doable with full pack and 4 feet of snow! Wildcat opened for skiing this past weekend. I have been checking their site, since they are right next door to Carter Dome.” 2:01:32 PM 10/31/05 “If you'll all take note, all one had to do is answer the original question and there would have been no perception of "baiting". This "baiting" thing is a creation of your own minds. I have been wondering Violin's race for quite some time because it's been brought up before. It's that simple. But nooooo ... everybody has to play the PC game ... we're not supposed to ask about race ... (insert crying here)” 2:03:53 PM 10/31/05 “I wonder if those that are afraid to talk about race are the ones who are racist. Aren't we supposed to embrace our race instead of hide from it? Why are you guys all racist?” 2:05:07 PM 10/31/05 “I think those of you that want to prevent race from becoming an issue should stop using the phrases "mexican-american" and "african-american", etc... They make me wonder, what? Are you not a regular American? Do you need that hyphen to distinguish you from other Americans?” 2:07:15 PM 10/31/05 “Whats up with all the hyphonated tags? "African American" = BLACK. They're black, they call themselves black, they have a black history month, they have black entertainment tv, they are black. Why does everyone insist on calling blacks "African Americans"? When someone with a US citizenship and a Ugandan accent crosses my path I'll refer to him or her as African American, but all of my other black friends are just that - black. Sheesh.” 2:09:52 PM 10/31/05 “Sarge – My earliest European ancestor arrived in Virginia Colony in 1619 - more than a year before the Mayflower. My family has produced some remarkable Americans – Two US Senators, a Brigadier General, a city founder, etc. If only they had been prescient enough to have sent your ancestors back to whatever rock they slithered out from under…” 2:11:27 PM 10/31/05 “Me, I'm Cherokee and English mixed mutt. I don't know if I wanna kick the whites out or continue to overtake and colinize Amerca. I'm very torn. last edited: 10/31/05 2:13:09 PM” 2:11:57 PM 10/31/05 “Stovey - see the funny thing is he's not a puppet master. Everyone can see what he is and what he's doing, it's just fun to tie him in knots and kick him about some once in a while, it passes some time when ya bored. You know, like the kid who got picked on in school - you'd hadly compare him to the puppet-master now would you.” 2:12:08 PM 10/31/05 “Tow very liberal senators, no doubt... LOL! See it's the origanal bassturds who came here, raped my people's land and took it from us that I want to go back to their own damn countries. last edited: 10/31/05 2:14:10 PM” 2:12:52 PM 10/31/05 “Violin - That's pretty interesting. So, what are you? What race are you? Like Nig said, you've brought it up before, so let's hear it. Are you Aztec-American?” 2:14:01 PM 10/31/05 “Let me guess ... Hillary Clinton and Barbara Boxer?” 2:14:41 PM 10/31/05 “ ”2:14:51 PM 10/31/05 “Seeing as how liberals have been on the right side of every single social issue in this country’s history, I would certainly hope so.” 2:15:29 PM 10/31/05 “Nigal - If you want reparations, email your address. Do you take a money order?” 2:16:19 PM 10/31/05 “Sarge's puppets. Dance puppet! Dance! ;-) Yea, I believe everything violin posts on the internet. LOL” 2:17:20 PM 10/31/05 “ 2:21:25 PM 10/31/05 “English Irish Welsh Scottish German French Cherokee (kick to Nigal’s gut)” 2:21:41 PM 10/31/05 “No wonder it was hard to tell from your photos! I was going to guess English, Irish, Welsh, Scottish, German, Italian, Cherokee.” 2:24:25 PM 10/31/05 “I wonder about you sometimes stovey.” 2:24:43 PM 10/31/05 “Yeah but I bet I'm more Cherokee than you are so I therefor can claim to be the bigger victim.” 3:38:38 PM 10/31/05 “How about if I send Nigal $8.50, and Violin $2.25. Is that about right? Then can we call a truce to this whole "your people stole my land" thing?” 3:47:26 PM 10/31/05 “Let's see here, my great grandmother was full blood, so that makes me what? 1/8th? And seeing how the descendants of slaves were to get 40 acres and a mule and they didn't even live here before I'd say my net worth should be a mini-donkey and my front yard taken off my mortgage. Deal? ”3:57:15 PM 10/31/05 “LOL! What if I gave you one of Violin's offspring and a barrel of hay and we call it even? (just kidding Violin) PS Violin - That's a pretty trailname.” 4:00:33 PM 10/31/05 “calling liberals racist pc-whiners is so yesterday.......sheeesh” 6:47:46 PM 10/31/05 “he he” 6:49:14 PM 10/31/05
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