Attention Wallmart Shoppers:

“heretic!”

“Its just fun to tweak people.”

“cowardly troll”

“im for free market
crash bang
5:27:50 PM
3/30/07

Is there not a market for abortion?”

“theres also a market for kiddie porn. should i be in favor of that?”

“I wish I had a troll, then I could keep my shameless promotion thread going nonstop.”

“you are a troll. ive never seen you before”

“I believe kiddie porn's illegal, no? Do "Libertarians" usually lobby for more laws/regulations?”

“yes you have”

“Do "Libertarians" usually lobby for more laws/regulations?”

i dont claim to be a straight down the line libertarian. as a matter of fact, my point to snarclite was that i dont fall into any party perfectly. that said, i dont advocate criminalizing abortion”

“I understand.”

“Are you in favor of Wal-Mart providing abortions, crash bong? Don't you want to save the children?




As you said, Sassafras, it’s the government that forces these kids. The way to better their lives is not to boycott their economic development. An emerging middle class can lead to government reforms. You don’t stop this behavior by punishing Wal-Mart. Your priorities are misplaced.




Well isn’t that some of the most philosophically socialist trash I’ve heard: Not guaranteeing jobs means business screws people over.

The middle class will continue to shrink as you keep pushing for socialist policies such as guaranteed jobs. Here we go with the emotional opinions again. There’s really no need to read Hayek, Friedman, or Stiglitz is there Nowslimmer, Tilt, and Y2? You guys already have all the answers don’t you?”

“arclite - Where did you get those shades? It's interesting how you see only what you want to see!”

“NS - arc only sees two shades through his shades.....orange and blue.”

“What's all that ORANGE in the SEC about anyway? Was there some sort of cataclysmic industrial accident across the Southeast in the last century that missed the state of Georgia? :-)”

“Don't know, but the evil orange trinity is of the debbil.”

“don't invoke the Cheese.....”

“Yeah, it's all my problem isn't it nowslimmer?

Care to offer ANY intelligent, factual information on the weaknesses of “the invisible hand” theory? Care to offer ANY intelligent, factual information on which economic schools you think provide the most accurate models? Care to offer ANY intelligent, factual information on the economic consequences of guaranteed employment? Care to offer ANY intelligent, factual information on the economic consequences of social programs such as public education, social security, welfare, and public healthcare combined with unrestricted immigration?


I promise I’ll put on my rose colored glasses so that I can read your response.”

“arc - ygm. Know any good architects?”

“Louis Kahn.

Unfortunately you'd need a shovel and a boatload of smelling salts to get any work out of him.”

“My questions to the control freaks are: Why are you trying to control market dynamics? What makes you believe that you can control market forces to achieve your desired outcomes when you know little or nothing about economics? Why do you ignore the fact that people want to make their own choices? Why do you want to make decisions for others? And why don’t you bother to examine your motives?

This bears repeating. Over and over again.”

“fine. wal-mart is mother fricking teresa. can we move on now?”

“My, how dismissive of you...”

“wlamart sucks, and is ruining communities.”

“I agree with you Nigal. Do you notice a pattern here?

Unfortunately it doesn't do any good because it's the people who pose those questions, not the ones who can't seem to answer, who are the problem according to "liberals."


I love this quote from George Will's article:

“When liberals' presidential nominees consistently fail to carry Kansas, liberals do not rush to read a book titled "What's the Matter With Liberals' Nominees?" No, the book they turned into a bestseller is titled "What's the Matter With Kansas?" Notice a pattern here?”




Oh yeah. That pattern is obvious to anyone with a lick of sense.
last edited: 4/01/07 1:58:05 PM”

“dead horses dont dismiss easily”

“I agree arc. If people don't like something like Walmart, by all means, don't shop there. Let the free markets and demand dictate Walmart's success. I'm suffering from agenda burn out. Everything has to be turned into a frickin' national holy crusade of right and wrong, guilt and shame.”

“pants and no pants”

“Nigal, at first it was funny when the media started reporting on a different a "crisis" each week. After a few years it got old and tired.

The politicians like to keep the masses distracted. It keeps folks from noticing how fat and happy they're all becoming off of the public trough.”

“An emerging middle class can lead to government reforms - It's a nice theory, but can you give me an example of where this has taken place? There is certainly little sign of it happening in China, at the moment.

In all seriousness I'm struggling to see anywhere where increased economic freedoms have led directly to political reform.”

“Your post does pose some interesting things. However, it comes across as uttered in a most boastful manner. I have to retain an awareness that it is foolish to argue with a troll, which you are.

"Care to offer ANY intelligent, factual information on the weaknesses of “the invisible hand” theory? Care to offer ANY intelligent, factual information on which economic schools you think provide the most accurate models? Care to offer ANY intelligent, factual information on the economic consequences of guaranteed employment? Care to offer ANY intelligent, factual information on the economic consequences of social programs such as public education, social security, welfare, and public healthcare combined with unrestricted immigration?"

Your questions indicate a lack of understanding of the normal objective of a college education. The objective is to incite the student to "think." Facts and formulae are quickly learned and as quickly forgotten. But, by learning to think, the student becomes better prepared to compete in the outside world.

Now, regarding all the questions in your post, my answer to each is, "No!" If you need information, I suggest you visit a library. Each item is a complex subject which one could study at length without reaching a conclusion or full understanding. So your main purpose must be to imply that you are well versed in each subject. If you are, then I am duely impressed.

With regard to the “the invisible hand” theory, I simply would like to raise a question. Do you possibly think that it may have become subject to over-application? "Nowadays, 'invisible hand' explanations are invoked to explain all sorts of phenomena, from scientific progress to environmental degradation." Adam Smith and the invisible hand
by Helen Joyce

With regard to "Economics," most all schools teach some economics. Some do a better job of it, or, perhaps, provide more extensive coverage of it. Those with larger departments may probe deeper into certain aspects of it. The comparison of the competitive merits of different schools can be carried to extremes. In the process of gathering statistics, other important criteria are subject to being overlooked. Please remember that a student learns in spite of the teacher.

Your question regarding "guaranteed employment" implies that my statements may have triggered your question. If so, I'm sorry. Nowhere did I try to say anything on this subject. I merely illustrated some of the corporate timing in their money saving actions.

With regard to "Care to offer ANY intelligent, factual information ...,"
it would be a waste of time and effort to try to impress you with any intelligent, factual information. You have demonstrated your unwillingness to read everything in that your mind is already made up. However, to help you in your discussions, if you have not yet read it, I recommend John Stuart Mill's, "On Liberty." "While Mill's thesis is that free discussion is a necessary social and political practice in a free democratic society, without which informed opinions and social conscience cannot fully develop, he specifically advocated for free discussion as central to intellectual development." Quoted from the President's Message in, "Lawrence Today," Vol. 87, No. 2, Appleton, Wisconsin.”

“Nowslimmer, all you had to say was, “NO, I can’t answer any of your questions.”

Don’t feel a need to impress us with everything you know EXCEPT for economics.




You know, Y2, every time you have asked me about a subject we get the same pattern:

1. Y2: Support your statement
2. Arclite: Read this information
3. Y2: I don’t have to believe that
4. Arclite: Well then read this, and this, and this…
5. Y2: I won’t because that is all irrelevant to my opinion for which I never will provide any support.


Let’s see if we notice something other than what’s wrong with Kansas this time.

Read this for starters:
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/ipe/friedman.htm
last edited: 4/01/07 9:55:23 PM”

“arclite - Well done! You weaseled out just like a troll. You ignored a good question, you ignored the explanations as to why I would not try to answer your questions, you couldn't bring yourself to give any acknowledgement to a suggestion of an excellent book and you tried your best to put words into my mouth in a ridiculous and insulting manner. Both your questions and your responses place you past the realm of ignorance and expose traits of stupidity.

Drift along with your dreams, troll.”

“What's the matter with Kansas, Nowslimmer?”

“"As you said, Sassafras, it’s the government that forces these kids. The way to better their lives is not to boycott their economic development. An emerging middle class can lead to government reforms. You don’t stop this behavior by punishing Wal-Mart. Your priorities are misplaced."

-arclite

No, Walmart is the single biggest buyer of Chinese goods. Therefore, if I want to boycott the Chinese government the best way to do so is to STOP SHOPPING AT WALMART. Seems like a simple connection to me.

And yeah, I guess if you did care about kids in China and Pakistan and Indonesia you would look at labels and you would not buy items from those countries if possible. It takes about two seconds usually. And Kmart and Target both have offerings from other countries, lots of them. But, if you don't then shop where ever you want. But, don't expect that the whole world will share your love for the company. It's just going to be those who can't take the time to find their bargains, or don't care enough to shop elsewhere.”

“What we have here is a popular revolt against WalMart.

There is no revolution without a cause.

People don't revolt because its trendy.”

“People don't revolt because its trendy.

Wanna bet? :P”